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Date: 26 Nov 2008 00:05:28
From: Sanny
Subject: Very difficult to win at GetClub.
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Now, it is very difficult to win at GetClub as a few strategy were
corrected.
Now, you cannot sit and wait for the program to do mistake and then
win the game. Only way to win is by using better tactics.
Yes, Tactics is still inferior than strategy as it do not think to
high depth.
Here is a game with Jester.
Game Played between Jester and beginner at GetClub.com
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Jester : (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM31108&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(Jester) -- (beginner)
1. e2-e4{20} Ng8-f6{0}
2. e4-e5{12} Nf6-d5{0}
3. d2-d4{6} d7-d6{0}
4. c2-c4{6} Nd5-b6{0}
5. e5-d6{6} e7-d6{6}
6. Nb1-c3{8} Nb8-c6{14}
7. Bc1-e3{14} Bc8-f5{82}
8. Ng1-f3{10} Bf8-e7{82}
9. Bf1-e2{10} Ke8-g8{22}
10. Ke1-g1{12} Bf5-g4{6}
11. Qd1-d3{12} Be7-h4{42}
12. h2-h3{10} Nc6-b4{32}
13. Qd3-e4{12} Bg4-f3{6}
14. Qe4-f3{10} Nb4-c2{12}
15. Ra1-b1{10} Ra8-b8{20}
16. g2-g3{12} Bh4-f6{6}
17. Be2-d3{12} Nc2-b4{10}
18. Qf3-d1{12} Rf8-e8{74}
19. Rf1-e1{12} Nb4-d3{6}
20. Qd1-d3{10} Re8-e6{32}
21. b2-b3{10} d6-d5{10}
22. c4-c5{10} Nb6-c8{10}
23. Be3-f4{10} a7-a6{20}
24. Re1-e6{10} f7-e6{8}
25. Rb1-e1{12} Nc8-e7{12}
26. Qd3-e3{26} Qd8-c8{14}
27. Qe3-e6{10} Qc8-e6{10}
28. Re1-e6{4} Rb8-c8{8}
29. Re6-e1{14} c7-c6{22}
30. Bf4-e5{12} Bf6-g5{6}
31. f2-f4{10} Bg5-h6{6}
32. g3-g4{8} Ne7-g6{18}
33. g4-g5{10} Ng6-h4{8}
34. Re1-f1{12} Rc8-e8{16}
35. g5-h6{10} g7-g6{14}
36. Kg1-f2{10} Nh4-f5{40}
37. Rf1-e1{10} Kg8-f7{22}
38. Nc3-d1{10} Re8-e6{16}
39. Nd1-e3{10} Nf5-h6{6}
40. a2-a3{10} Re6-e8{46}
41. Kf2-f3{10} Nh6-g8{12}
42. f4-f5{36} g6-f5{0}
43. Ne3-f5{10} Kf7-g6{6}
44. Kf3-f4{10} Re8-f8{6}
45. Re1-g1{10} Kg6-f7{0}
46. Be5-d6{12} Rf8-e8{6}
47. Rg1-g7{10} Kf7-f6{8}
48. Bd6-e5{12} Kf6-e6{0}
49. Nf5-d6{10} Re8-f8{8}
50. Kf4-e3{8} b7-b6{10}
51. c5-b6{10} h7-h6{6}
52. Rg7-g2{12} Ke6-d7{70}
53. b6-b7{10} Ng8-e7{6}
54. Rg2-g7{12} Kd7-e6{6}
55. Ke3-d2{14} Ne7-g8{10}
56. Nd6-c8{10} Rf8-f2{12}
57. Kd2-e1{10} Rf2-f7{14}
58. Qb7-b8{Q}{12} Rf7-g7{6}
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Jester: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM31108&game=Chess
You can see till 25th move the gsme was equal but later GetClub lost a
pawn due to tactical mistake. There was no way to save that pawn.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Very difficult to win at GetClub.
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Date: 28 Nov 2008 00:11:34
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Very difficult to win at GetClub.
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On Nov 26, 12:05 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> high depth.
Wow!
Wlod
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Date: 26 Nov 2008 20:49:06
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: Very difficult to win at GetClub.
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* Sanny <[email protected] > (17:26) schrieb:
> Every player looses sometimes.
There's a difference between sometimes and all of the time.
> But I am concerned about the gameplay and not the result.
And I though good gameplay leads to victory.
mfg, simon .... l
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Date: 26 Nov 2008 08:26:20
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Very difficult to win at GetClub.
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> > You can see till 25th move the gsme was equal but later GetClub lost a
> > pawn due to tactical mistake. There was no way to save that pawn.
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> I'm still confused how you can claim that it is "very difficult to win" and,
> in the same post, show a game where GetClub loses against someone it
> typically loses against....
The game played by GetClub was too good. Till 25th move the game was
equal. In general earler GetClub used to get behind in pieces in just
20 moves. Now GetClub played till 60 Moves. Earlier GetClub used to
loose in just 45 moves. So +15 moves were needed to win.
> I find it strange and amusing both tbh.
Every player looses sometimes. But I am concerned about the gameplay
and not the result.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 26 Nov 2008 17:02:21
From: ave
Subject: Re: Very difficult to win at GetClub.
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> The game played by GetClub was too good. Till 25th move the game was
> equal. In general earler GetClub used to get behind in pieces in just
> 20 moves. Now GetClub played till 60 Moves. Earlier GetClub used to
> loose in just 45 moves. So +15 moves were needed to win.
I'm not really one to judge how well it played upto the 25th move. However I
do know that just because it takes more moves to beat doesn't necessarily
mean GetClub is playing better in general. I'll admit that GetClub improves
over time, from other peoples reports, but also that GetClub still doesn't
play very good chess in general.
> Every player looses sometimes.
True, but GetClub doesn't appear to only lose "sometimes".
ave
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Date: 26 Nov 2008 10:12:21
From: ave
Subject: Re: Very difficult to win at GetClub.
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> You can see till 25th move the gsme was equal but later GetClub lost a
> pawn due to tactical mistake. There was no way to save that pawn.
I'm still confused how you can claim that it is "very difficult to win" and,
in the same post, show a game where GetClub loses against someone it
typically loses against....
I find it strange and amusing both tbh.
ave
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