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Date: 18 Oct 2007 14:29:31
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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I am wondering whether to hold out for a later release or to get what is
available now.
In particular, I am looking for a chess engine that is both tactical and
agressive, put still plays positionally. I am not a high ranked player by any
means, so the real benefit I am looking for is with analysis. I have rybka,
but find that I can't use it reliably as an analysis engine within the Fritz
10 UI as the multiprocessor version causes ChessEngine10.exe to go
unresponsive from time to time (using the uniprocessor version seems to be
alright).
So, I note that Deep Shredder is due and I like the idea of shredderbases for
quick endgame analysis (it is fun to play engine matches at PlayChess as well,
so perhaps this would help). I note that Fritz 11 is due in a month or so,
but no word of the Deep version (awaiting a GM challenge for publicity again?).
I can't tell if the advantages of the upcoming Fritz 11 UI might be worth the
wait. Of course, there are existing deep versions of Hiarcs and Junior as
well. I have the single proc version of Junior 8 (or 9, I forget which) and
always liked the analysis, but I prefer to utilize my quad core for better
analysis and engine matches (and I am probably a bit crazy).
So, thoughts? Should I wait for the Deep version of Junior, Fritz or Hiarcs
to appear in the Fritz 11 UI or should I jump in and get Deep Shredder 11 (or
wait for Deep Shredder 12)? I am close to needing a new subscription for
Playchess.com anyway, so I am due for a purchase.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Ninety percent of the politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
-- Henry Kissinger
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From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 12:19:06
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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Date: 24 Oct 2007 15:36:13
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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Which one did you get ? Any of them would be nice ...
I have a excalibur computer called IVAN and it is in the I700 ELO range
and it has lost to FRITZ as black and white ....Ivan's end game is weak
but since i am not good enough to know about it's opening or middle game
those mite be weak too...
But i still have fun playing it myself or vs other computers ...
In one game vs fritz , the end game it had a rook protecting a lowly
pawn when his King was under attack , i kept telling it to move the rook
to try and help his King..ha ha ha...By the time it started to move it ,
it was too late....
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Date: 25 Oct 2007 07:46:53
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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SAT W-7 <[email protected] > wrote:
> Which one did you get ? Any of them would be nice ...
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I haven't purchased anything yet. Shredder 11 is due out in a week or so and
Fritz 11 isn't due until a month after that and I am sure they will wait on
the "Deep" version until they can find a GM to publically play it for price
money before they actually release it.
I will either buy the deep version of Shredder 11 or wait for the one of
Shredder, Junior or Hiarcs for the Fritz 11 UI.
BTW ... does anybody know if the the UI in the deep version of the Fritz
interface is capable of using multiple cores itself? I ask this for the sole
reason that I still can't figure out why Rybka continues to freeze up while
analyzing my games from time to time (2.3.2a MP x64). I run it under the
Fritz 10 GUI as a UCI engine at default settings [messing with the settings
make the problem FAR worse]. Computer is 100% stable other than this
program/engine combination.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Ninety percent of the politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
-- Henry Kissinger
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Date: 25 Oct 2007 16:09:05
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:46:53 -0500, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected] > wrote:
>SAT W-7 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Which one did you get ? Any of them would be nice ...
>>
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>I haven't purchased anything yet. Shredder 11 is due out in a week or so and
>Fritz 11 isn't due until a month after that and I am sure they will wait on
>the "Deep" version until they can find a GM to publically play it for price
>money before they actually release it.
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>I will either buy the deep version of Shredder 11 or wait for the one of
>Shredder, Junior or Hiarcs for the Fritz 11 UI.
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>BTW ... does anybody know if the the UI in the deep version of the Fritz
>interface is capable of using multiple cores itself? I ask this for the sole
>reason that I still can't figure out why Rybka continues to freeze up while
>analyzing my games from time to time (2.3.2a MP x64). I run it under the
>Fritz 10 GUI as a UCI engine at default settings [messing with the settings
>make the problem FAR worse]. Computer is 100% stable other than this
>program/engine combination.
The Deep Fritz GUI should be able to handle 64 bit multi-processor UCI
engines when run under a 64 bit version of Windows.
Have you tried posting your question in the Rybka forum? It's a
fairly active forum, and there are experienced testers with big
hardware who post there.
Tony
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Date: 25 Oct 2007 13:43:43
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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Tony M <[email protected] > wrote:
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> The Deep Fritz GUI should be able to handle 64 bit multi-processor UCI
> engines when run under a 64 bit version of Windows.
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That didn't really answer whether the Deep Fritz UI is different from the
Fritz UI though :-) I suspect not, but if so, perhaps that might be what is
causing the issue on my box.
> Have you tried posting your question in the Rybka forum? It's a
> fairly active forum, and there are experienced testers with big
> hardware who post there.
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No, in fact, I have not. Perhaps I should give it a try.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Ninety percent of the politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
-- Henry Kissinger
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Date: 26 Oct 2007 19:09:22
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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Down the road when you get it let us know how you like it ....
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From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 15:20:18
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Which Deep * Chessbase product?
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Hiarcs is the one id go with it has a strong middle game and good all
around game..
If you play computer vs computer keep your won / loss / draw record
as white and black and at what time control and vs what computer
programs...
If i ever get a real computer that is the chess program id get..
I think you need a real strong computer for the end game stuff that
Shredder has ??
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