Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Date: 02 Feb 2008 00:00:43
From: Sanny
Subject: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

After a strong fight this month. Help Bot Managed to win Jan
Tournament at GetClub.

Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Here are the Top 6 players who won.

Jan 2008 Result
-------------------

1st. help bot : Points Awarded 24.8
2nd. beginner : Points Awarded 20.4
3rd. ---------Myself using Computer.
4th. jordan : Points Awarded 6.4
5th. peter : Points Awarded 5.4
6th. Mr_Phil : Points Awarded 4.3

This Time Beginner came to 2nd Position as Beginner Level was able to
beat many players. I came to 3rd position because I used computer to
play against getclub Chess.

All time Top Players at GetClub are

1) Zebediah Won: 188, Lost: 2 Rating: 1460
2) nomorechess Won: 142, Lost: 2 Rating: 1411
3) help bot Won: 228, Lost: 14 Rating: 1335
4) Taylor Kingston Won: 50, Lost: 0 Rating: 1315
5) chrisf Won: 85, Lost: 0 Rating: 1288
6) Bonsai Won: 57, Lost: 2 Rating: 1213

Now it is very difficult to win even the Beginner Level, So it is very
difficult to get higher ratings.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 09 Feb 2008 22:34:01
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Improvement done

> I played another game betweenGetClubeasy level and crafty limited to
> 7 ply search depth.GetClubdidn't make any big tactical errors
> according to crafty, but was slowly led into a losing position,
> probably because crafty has a better positional evaluation function.
>

What do you mean by better positional evaluation function What was the
mistake GetClub was making in Evalution?

From now on please write your new games & Response to this message
Group.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.analysis/browse_frm/thread/17318bc97ac74c0/e005804ec30b9b37?lnk=st&q=GetClub+Chess#e005804ec30b9b37

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 08 Feb 2008 09:18:57
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Improvement done

On Feb 6, 11:52=A0pm, Peter Osterlund <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sanny <[email protected]> writes:
> > Yes, there was an error that cause this wrong move. That error has
> > been removed. Analysis with Easy Level gives clear analysis.
>
> > I liked the way crafty shows its evaluation in tabular form. Now play
> > with Easy vs 7th depth. I think now it will be able to give good
> > challenge since that error has been removed.
>
> > After the game do show me the evaluation by Crafty So that I may find
> > which move is wrong.
>
> OK, new game, crafty playing white this time. It seemed more or less
> even, until 29 ... Nc6 30. Rxc6. I'm not sure why crafty saw that
> combination and GetClub didn't. Maybe crafty has better capture/check
> extension logic.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.05 =A0-0.09 =A0 5. h3 Bxf3 6. Qx=
f3 a6 7. Bd3 Nb4 8.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0-0.20 =A0 6. Qxf3 Qd6 7. O=
-O O-O-O 8. d3 a6 9.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.08 =A0-0.15 =A0 7. d3 Bd6 8. Bd2=
O-O 9. O-O a6 10.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.04 =A0-0.20 =A0 8. Bd2 O-O 9. Nc=
3 d4 10. Ne2 dxe3 11.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.05 =A0-0.02 =A0 9. O-O a6 10. Ba=
4 Rb8 11. Nc3 d4 12.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 0.01 =A0 10. Nc3 a6 11. B=
a4 Bb4 12. Bb3 d4 13.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0-0.03 =A0 11. Ba4 Nd7 12. =
Bb3 Nc5 13. Qg4 Nxb3
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.04 =A0-0.05 =A0 12. Bb3 c5 13. a=
3 c4 14. Ba2 Rc8 15.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 0.02 =A0 13. Ne2 a5 14. B=
a4 Rc8 15. a3 bxa3
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.10 =A0 0.24 =A0 14. c4 Nh4 15. Q=
f2 Nf5 16. cxd5 Nxd5
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 0.40 =A0 15. Bxc4 Qe7 16.=
Rac1 Rfd8 17. Qg3
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.04 =A0 0.45 =A0 16. a3 a5 17. ax=
b4 cxb4 18. Rac1 Rc8
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.05 =A0 0.48 =A0 17. Rfc1 Rc8 18.=
axb4 cxb4 19. Qg3
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 0.70 =A0 18. Qf2 Nd5 19. =
Bxd5 exd5 20. axb4
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.07 =A0 0.72 =A0 19. Bb5 bxa3 20.=
Rxa3 c4 21. Rac3 Bb4
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.04 =A0 0.90 =A0 20. axb4 cxb4 21=
. f5 Ne7 22. e4 Bh2+
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.05 =A0 0.89 =A0 21. f5 Ne7 22. e=
4 Be5 23. d4 Bh2+ 24.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.05 =A0 0.85 =A0 22. Qxf5 Nde5 23=
. d4 Rb8 24. Ba6 Nh4
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.08 =A0 0.91 =A0 23. d4 Rb8 24. B=
a6 Be7 25. e4 Re8 26.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.06 =A0 1.60 =A0 24. Ba4 Ne7 25. =
Qe4 f5 26. Bb3+ Kh8
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.05 =A0 1.49 =A0 25. Qe4 N5g6 26.=
h4 Bh2+ 27. Kf2 Qd6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.06 =A0 1.09 =A0 26. Bb3+ Kh8 27.=
Qb1 N5g6 28. Qd3 Qd8
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0 1.12 =A0 27. Qb1 N5g6 28.=
Qd3 Qd8 29. Nf4 Qd7
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 1.04 =A0 28. Qd3 Qd8 29. =
Nf4 Qd7 30. Bc2 Rfc8
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.09 =A0 1.09 =A0 29. Rc2 Qe8 30. =
Bc4 Bc7 31. Rac1 Rc8
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.09 =A0 1.93 =A0 30. Rxc6 Bh2+ 31=
. Kh1 Rxc6 32. Bd5
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 1.93 =A0 31. Kh1 Rxc6 32.=
Bd5 Raa6 33. Bxc6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 2.24 =A0 32. Bd5 Ne7 33. =
Bxc6 Nxc6 34. Qxf5
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0 2.15 =A0 33. Bxc6 Nxc6 34=
. Qxf5 Qd6 35. Rf1
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 2.16 =A0 34. Qxf5 Qd6 35.=
Qe4 Rc8 36. d5 Be5
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 2.79 =A0 35. Qg5 Bd6 36. =
e4 Qf8 37. e5 h6 38.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.03 =A0 2.89 =A0 36. e4 Nc6 37. e=
5 Qb5 38. Re1 Be7 39.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0 3.41 =A0 37. Rxa5 Rxa5 38=
. Qxa5 b3 39. e5 Nf5
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 3.69 =A0 38. Qxa5 b3 39. =
e5 Nc6 40. Qd5 Qh5
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0 4.36 =A0 39. e5 Qh5 40. N=
g1 Be7 41. Bxb4 Qf5
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 4.60 =A0 40. Ng1 Qf5 41. =
Bxb4 Bxb4 42. Qxb4
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 4.70 =A0 41. Bxb4 Bxb4 42=
. Qxb4 Qe6 43. Qd6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 5.11 =A0 42. Qxb4 Qe6 43.=
Qd6 Qxd6 44. exd6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 5.70 =A0 43. Qd6 Qf7 44. =
b4 Kh7 45. e6 Qe7 46.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 5.94 =A0 44. d5 Kh7 45. b=
4 Qf4 46. Nf3 Nf6 47.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0 6.45 =A0 45. b4 Qf7 46. e=
6 Qf6 47. b5 Ne7 48.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 7.01 =A0 46. e6 Qf6 47. N=
f3 <HT >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A0 7.36 =A0 47. b5 g4 48. hx=
g4 Qxg4 49. Qe5+ Kh7
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0 7.80 =A0 48. hxg4 Qxg4 49=
. Qe5+ Kh7 50. d6 Kg6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.02 =A0 8.99 =A0 49. Qe5+ Kh7 50.=
Qc7+ Kh6 51. d6 h3
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.00 =A014.24 =A0 50. Qxf6+ Nxf6 5=
1. d6 h3 52. d7 hxg2+
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.00 =A014.24 =A0 51. d6 h3 52. d7=
hxg2+ 53. Kxg2 Kg7
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A015.43 =A0 52. d7 Nf2+ 53. =
Kh2 Nxg4+ 54. Kh3 Nf2+
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.01 =A016.12 =A0 53. d8=3DQ Nf2+ =
54. Kh2 Nxg4+ 55. Kh3
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.09 =A021.40 =A0 55. Kh3 Nf6 56. =
e7 Kf7 57. Qf8+ Kg6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.16 =A022.87 =A0 56. Qe7+ Kg6 57.=
Nf3 Kf5 58. Qc5+ Kxe6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.08 =A024.47 =A0 57. g4 Nxg4 58. =
Kxg4 h3 59. Nxh3 Kh6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7-> =A0 0.10 =A0Mat06 =A0 58. Nf3 Kh6 59. =
g5+ Nxg5+ 60. Qxg5+
>
> [Event "Computer chess game"]
> [Site "quad.localdomain"]
> [Date "2008.02.06"]
> [Round "-"]
> [White "Crafty-20.14, 7 ply search depth"]
> [Black "GetClub, easy level"]
> [Result "1-0"]
> [TimeControl "60/300"]
>
> 1. f4 d5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. e3 Bg4 4. Bb5 Nf6 5. h3 Bxf3 6. Qxf3 e6 7. d3 Bd6 8=
.
> Bd2 O-O 9. O-O Ne7 10. Nc3 a6 11. Ba4 b5 12. Bb3 b4 13. Ne2 Ng6 14. c4 dxc=
4
> 15. Bxc4 c5 16. a3 a5 17. Rfc1 Nh4 18. Qf2 Nd7 19. Bb5 Ng6 20. axb4 cxb4
> 21. f5 exf5 22. Qxf5 Nde5 23. d4 Qb8 24. Ba4 Ne7 25. Qe4 f5 26. Bb3+ Kh8
> 27. Qb1 N5g6 28. Qd3 Rf6 29. Rc2 Nc6 30. Rxc6 Bh2+ 31. Kh1 Rxc6 32. Bd5 Ne=
7
> 33. Bxc6 Nxc6 34. Qxf5 Ne7 35. Qg5 Bd6 36. e4 Qe8 37. Rxa5 Rxa5 38. Qxa5
> Ng8 39. e5 Qh5 40. Ng1 Qf5 41. Bxb4 Bxb4 42. Qxb4 h6 43. Qd6 h5 44. d5 h4
> 45. b4 g6 46. e6 g5 47. b5 g4 48. hxg4 Qg6 49. Qe5+ Qf6 50. Qxf6+ Nxf6 51.=

> d6 Ne4 52. d7 Kg7 53. d8=3DQ Nf2+ 54. Kh2 Nxg4+ 55. Kh3 Nf6 56. Qe7+ Kg6 5=
7.
> g4 Nh7 58. Nf3
> {Black resigns} 1-0
>
> --
> Peter Osterlund - [email protected]://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Any new game played by you?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 09 Feb 2008 09:13:34
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

> Any new game played by you?

I played another game between GetClub easy level and crafty limited to
7 ply search depth. GetClub didn't make any big tactical errors
according to crafty, but was slowly led into a losing position,
probably because crafty has a better positional evaluation function.

Craftys evaluation during the game:

7- > 0.05 -0.64 5. ... dxc4 6. Qxc4 O-O 7. O-O-O Bd7
7- > 0.03 -0.61 6. ... O-O 7. O-O-O Nc6 8. Nf3 Bd7
7- > 0.11 -0.76 7. ... b6 8. Bf4 c5 9. dxc5 Ba6 10.
7- > 0.07 -0.92 8. ... Bb7 9. Bxf6 Bxf6 10. e5 Bh4
7- > 0.04 -0.98 9. ... Nd5 10. Bxe7 Qxe7 11. b5 Rd8
7- > 0.02 -1.02 10. ... Qxe7 11. a3 Nxc3 12. Qxc3 Rd8
7- > 0.07 -1.32 11. ... a6 12. Nge2 axb5 13. Nxb5 Nc6
7- > 0.04 -1.64 12. ... Nxc3 13. Qxc3 axb5 14. Bxb5
7- > 0.03 -1.64 13. ... Bxf3 14. gxf3 axb5 15. Bxb5
7- > 0.01 -1.59 14. ... axb5 15. Bxb5 Ra3 16. Qc4 Rxf3
7- > 0.03 -2.02 15. ... Ra3 16. Qb2 Rd8 17. O-O Nc6
7- > 0.02 -2.72 16. ... Rd8 17. Bxb5 c5 18. O-O Rxd4
7- > 0.04 -3.01 17. ... c5 18. Qf4 Rxd4 19. Qg3 c4
7- > 0.02 -3.32 18. ... Rxd4 19. Qe2 Qg5+ 20. Kh1 Rd2
7- > 0.05 -3.24 19. ... Qg5+ 20. Kh1 Rd2 21. Qe4 Qh5
7- > 0.04 -3.24 20. ... Rd2 21. Qe4 Qh5 22. Kg2 Raxa2
7- > 0.09 -3.08 21. ... Qf5 22. Qxf5 exf5 23. Kg2 Raxa2
7- > 0.03 -3.04 22. ... Qxe4 23. fxe4 Raxa2 24. Kg2
7- > 0.01 -3.31 23. ... Raxa2 24. Kg2 Rab2 25. Rxd2
7- > 0.02 -3.67 24. ... Rab2 25. Rxd2 Rxd2 26. Rb1
7- > 0.02 -3.58 25. ... Kf8 26. Kg2 Rxd1 27. Rxd1 Rxb5
7- > 0.01 -3.59 26. ... Rxd2 27. Kg2 Nd7 28. Bxd7 Rxd7
7- > 0.01 -4.00 27. ... Rb2 28. Rd1 Ke7 29. Bd3 Nc6
7- > 0.00 -4.35 28. ... Ke7 29. Bd3 b5 30. Kg1 c4 31.
7- > 0.01 -4.98 29. ... b5 30. Bf1 c4 31. h4 Nc6 32.
7- > 0.01 -5.38 30. ... c4 31. Kg1 c3 32. Rc1 b4 33.
7- > 0.01 -5.49 31. ... c3 32. Rc1 b4 33. Bd3 Rf2 34.
7- > 0.01 -5.56 32. ... b4 33. Bd3 Rf2 34. f5 exf5
7- > 0.01 -7.02 33. ... c2 34. Kg2 b3 35. Bc4 exf5
7- > 0.01 -7.66 34. ... b3 35. Bd3 Nc6 36. Bc4 Nd4
7- > 0.01 -8.44 35. ... Nc6 36. f6+ gxf6 37. exf6+
7- > 0.00 -8.44 36. ... gxf6 37. exf6+ Kxf6 38. Kf2
7- > 0.00 -8.64 37. ... Kxf6 38. Kf2 Ne5 39. Ke2 Nxd3
7- > 0.01 -10.90 38. ... Ne5 39. Rf1+ Ke7 40. Bxc2 bxc2
7- > 0.04 -14.34 39. ... Ke7 40. Bb5 Rb1 41. Kg2 Rxf1
7- > 0.02 -17.33 40. ... Ra2 41. Kg2 b2 42. h4 b1=Q
7- > 0.01 -18.99 41. ... b2 42. Kg2 c1=Q 43. h5 Qxf1+
7- > 0.03 -22.47 42. ... c1=Q 43. Kg2 Qxf1+ 44. Kxf1
7- > 0.69 -Mat06 43. ... Qe3+ 44. Rf3 Qg1+ 45. Kh3 Qg4+

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.02.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "GetClub easy level"]
[Black "Crafty-20.14, 7 ply search depth"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "60/300"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bg5 Be7 5. Qd3 dxc4 6. Qxc4 O-O 7. e4 b6 8.
b4 Bb7 9. e5 Nd5 10. Bxe7 Qxe7 11. b5 a6 12. Nf3 Nxc3 13. Qxc3 Bxf3 14.
gxf3 axb5 15. Be2 Ra3 16. Qd2 Rd8 17. Bxb5 c5 18. O-O Rxd4 19. Qe2 Qg5+ 20.
Kh1 Rd2 21. Qe4 Qf5 22. Rad1 Qxe4 23. fxe4 Raxa2 24. Bc4 Rab2 25. Bb5 Kf8
26. Rxd2 Rxd2 27. f3 Rb2 28. Rd1 Ke7 29. Bc4 b5 30. Bf1 c4 31. f4 c3 32.
Rc1 b4 33. f5 c2 34. Kg1 b3 35. Bd3 Nc6 36. f6+ gxf6 37. exf6+ Kxf6 38. Kh1
Ne5 39. Rf1+ Ke7 40. Be2 Ra2 41. h4 b2 42. Kh2 c1=Q 43. Kg3 Qe3+ 44. Kh2
Qxe2+
{White resigns} 0-1

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Date: 06 Feb 2008 06:27:03
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Here is a complex Game by Beginner. It game away pawns for no
reasions. But on analysis on Computer I found they were correct moves
and It lost two pawns in just 15 moves. The Computer Analysis said
those were correct move, But still I feel those are wrong move.

8. Bc4-b3{10} c6-c5{12} This Move by Vlack gives away a pawn for no
reasion. But I saw for other moves too the score was -1. So whether
you sacrifice pawn or not the score is -1. Why?

10. Ke1-d1{6} Nf6-e4{6} Here again It lost a pawn. Can find whats
wrong with this move that it again loose a pawn.

Game Played between Jester and beginner at GetClub.com

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Jester: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15736&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(Jester) -- (beginner)

1. e2-e4{4} c7-c6{0}
2. d2-d4{4} d7-d5{0}
3. Nb1-c3{6} d5-e4{0}
4. Nc3-e4{6} Nb8-d7{0}
5. Ng1-f3{6} Ng8-f6{10}
6. Ne4-f6{8} Nd7-f6{8}
7. Bf1-c4{8} b7-b5{14}
8. Bc4-b3{10} c6-c5{12} {Wrong Move by Black}
9. d4-c5{20} Qd8-d1{6}
10. Ke1-d1{6} Nf6-e4{6} {Is it a wrong Move?}
11. Bc1-e3{12} e7-e6{6}
12. c5-c6{10} Bf8-d6{8}
13. Rh1-e1{10} Ke8-g8{8}
14. Be3-a7{12} f7-f5{10}
15. Ba7-e3{10} Rf8-f6{8}
16. Nf3-d4{12} Ra8-a5{6}
17. f2-f3{10} Ne4-c5{6}
18. Be3-d2{10} Ra5-a8{10}
19. g2-g3{10} Ra8-b8{8}
20. Bd2-b4{10} Nc5-b3{6}
21. Bb4-d6{10} Nb3-d4{6}
22. Bd6-b8{10} Nd4-c6{6}
23. Bb8-e5{10} Nc6-e5{6}
24. Re1-e5{10} Bc8-d7{6}
25. Kd1-e2{10} g7-g6{16}
26. Ra1-d1{10} Rf6-f7{6}
27. Ke2-e3{10} g6-g5{6}
28. f3-f4{10} h7-h6{10}
29. h2-h3{10} Rf7-h7{8}
30. Rd1-d6{10} g5-f4{8}
31. Ke3-f4{10} Rh7-e7{8}
32. a2-a3{26} h6-h5{6}
33. Kf4-g5{10} h5-h4{10}
34. g3-h4{10} Re7-g7{6}
35. Kg5-f4{10} Rg7-e7{6}
36. h4-h5{10} Kg8-g7{6}
37. h5-h6{10} Kg7-g8{12}
38. Re5-c5{10} Re7-f7{6}
39. Rc5-c7{12} e6-e5{6}
40. Kf4-g5{10} Bd7-e8{6}
41. Rc7-f7{10} Be8-f7{6}
42. Rd6-d8{10} Kg8-h7{6}
43. Rd8-d7{10} f5-f4{6}
44. Rd7-f7{8} Kh7-h8{10}
45. h6-h7{10} e5-e4{6}
46. Kg5-g6{14} b5-b4{12}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jester: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15736&game=Chess

I was thinking there are two errors. But on analysing on my slow
computer I found that those moves were not that bad. But still I have
doubt if anything is wrong with 10.......Nf6-e4{6} and 8. ..... c6-
c5{12}

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Date: 06 Feb 2008 16:18:09
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Improvement done

tin Brown <

Date: 06 Feb 2008 00:00:58
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Improvement done

> GetClubplayed ok until move 13. I don't see why it would play Rf3
> unless there is something wrong in the quiescence search.
>

Yes, there was an error that cause this wrong move. That error has
been removed. Analysis with Easy Level gives clear analysis.

I liked the way crafty shows its evaluation in tabular form. Now play
with Easy vs 7th depth. I think now it will be able to give good
challenge since that error has been removed.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

After the game do show me the evaluation by Crafty So that I may find
which move is wrong.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 06 Feb 2008 18:52:37
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

> Yes, there was an error that cause this wrong move. That error has
> been removed. Analysis with Easy Level gives clear analysis.
>
> I liked the way crafty shows its evaluation in tabular form. Now play
> with Easy vs 7th depth. I think now it will be able to give good
> challenge since that error has been removed.
>
> After the game do show me the evaluation by Crafty So that I may find
> which move is wrong.

OK, new game, crafty playing white this time. It seemed more or less
even, until 29 ... Nc6 30. Rxc6. I'm not sure why crafty saw that
combination and GetClub didn't. Maybe crafty has better capture/check
extension logic.

7- > 0.05 -0.09 5. h3 Bxf3 6. Qxf3 a6 7. Bd3 Nb4 8.
7- > 0.01 -0.20 6. Qxf3 Qd6 7. O-O O-O-O 8. d3 a6 9.
7- > 0.08 -0.15 7. d3 Bd6 8. Bd2 O-O 9. O-O a6 10.
7- > 0.04 -0.20 8. Bd2 O-O 9. Nc3 d4 10. Ne2 dxe3 11.
7- > 0.05 -0.02 9. O-O a6 10. Ba4 Rb8 11. Nc3 d4 12.
7- > 0.03 0.01 10. Nc3 a6 11. Ba4 Bb4 12. Bb3 d4 13.
7- > 0.02 -0.03 11. Ba4 Nd7 12. Bb3 Nc5 13. Qg4 Nxb3
7- > 0.04 -0.05 12. Bb3 c5 13. a3 c4 14. Ba2 Rc8 15.
7- > 0.03 0.02 13. Ne2 a5 14. Ba4 Rc8 15. a3 bxa3
7- > 0.10 0.24 14. c4 Nh4 15. Qf2 Nf5 16. cxd5 Nxd5
7- > 0.03 0.40 15. Bxc4 Qe7 16. Rac1 Rfd8 17. Qg3
7- > 0.04 0.45 16. a3 a5 17. axb4 cxb4 18. Rac1 Rc8
7- > 0.05 0.48 17. Rfc1 Rc8 18. axb4 cxb4 19. Qg3
7- > 0.03 0.70 18. Qf2 Nd5 19. Bxd5 exd5 20. axb4
7- > 0.07 0.72 19. Bb5 bxa3 20. Rxa3 c4 21. Rac3 Bb4
7- > 0.04 0.90 20. axb4 cxb4 21. f5 Ne7 22. e4 Bh2+
7- > 0.05 0.89 21. f5 Ne7 22. e4 Be5 23. d4 Bh2+ 24.
7- > 0.05 0.85 22. Qxf5 Nde5 23. d4 Rb8 24. Ba6 Nh4
7- > 0.08 0.91 23. d4 Rb8 24. Ba6 Be7 25. e4 Re8 26.
7- > 0.06 1.60 24. Ba4 Ne7 25. Qe4 f5 26. Bb3+ Kh8
7- > 0.05 1.49 25. Qe4 N5g6 26. h4 Bh2+ 27. Kf2 Qd6
7- > 0.06 1.09 26. Bb3+ Kh8 27. Qb1 N5g6 28. Qd3 Qd8
7- > 0.02 1.12 27. Qb1 N5g6 28. Qd3 Qd8 29. Nf4 Qd7
7- > 0.03 1.04 28. Qd3 Qd8 29. Nf4 Qd7 30. Bc2 Rfc8
7- > 0.09 1.09 29. Rc2 Qe8 30. Bc4 Bc7 31. Rac1 Rc8
7- > 0.09 1.93 30. Rxc6 Bh2+ 31. Kh1 Rxc6 32. Bd5
7- > 0.01 1.93 31. Kh1 Rxc6 32. Bd5 Raa6 33. Bxc6
7- > 0.03 2.24 32. Bd5 Ne7 33. Bxc6 Nxc6 34. Qxf5
7- > 0.02 2.15 33. Bxc6 Nxc6 34. Qxf5 Qd6 35. Rf1
7- > 0.03 2.16 34. Qxf5 Qd6 35. Qe4 Rc8 36. d5 Be5
7- > 0.03 2.79 35. Qg5 Bd6 36. e4 Qf8 37. e5 h6 38.
7- > 0.03 2.89 36. e4 Nc6 37. e5 Qb5 38. Re1 Be7 39.
7- > 0.02 3.41 37. Rxa5 Rxa5 38. Qxa5 b3 39. e5 Nf5
7- > 0.01 3.69 38. Qxa5 b3 39. e5 Nc6 40. Qd5 Qh5
7- > 0.02 4.36 39. e5 Qh5 40. Ng1 Be7 41. Bxb4 Qf5
7- > 0.01 4.60 40. Ng1 Qf5 41. Bxb4 Bxb4 42. Qxb4
7- > 0.01 4.70 41. Bxb4 Bxb4 42. Qxb4 Qe6 43. Qd6
7- > 0.01 5.11 42. Qxb4 Qe6 43. Qd6 Qxd6 44. exd6
7- > 0.01 5.70 43. Qd6 Qf7 44. b4 Kh7 45. e6 Qe7 46.
7- > 0.01 5.94 44. d5 Kh7 45. b4 Qf4 46. Nf3 Nf6 47.
7- > 0.02 6.45 45. b4 Qf7 46. e6 Qf6 47. b5 Ne7 48.
7- > 0.01 7.01 46. e6 Qf6 47. Nf3 <HT>
7- > 0.01 7.36 47. b5 g4 48. hxg4 Qxg4 49. Qe5+ Kh7
7- > 0.02 7.80 48. hxg4 Qxg4 49. Qe5+ Kh7 50. d6 Kg6
7- > 0.02 8.99 49. Qe5+ Kh7 50. Qc7+ Kh6 51. d6 h3
7- > 0.00 14.24 50. Qxf6+ Nxf6 51. d6 h3 52. d7 hxg2+
7- > 0.00 14.24 51. d6 h3 52. d7 hxg2+ 53. Kxg2 Kg7
7- > 0.01 15.43 52. d7 Nf2+ 53. Kh2 Nxg4+ 54. Kh3 Nf2+
7- > 0.01 16.12 53. d8=Q Nf2+ 54. Kh2 Nxg4+ 55. Kh3
7- > 0.09 21.40 55. Kh3 Nf6 56. e7 Kf7 57. Qf8+ Kg6
7- > 0.16 22.87 56. Qe7+ Kg6 57. Nf3 Kf5 58. Qc5+ Kxe6
7- > 0.08 24.47 57. g4 Nxg4 58. Kxg4 h3 59. Nxh3 Kh6
7- > 0.10 Mat06 58. Nf3 Kh6 59. g5+ Nxg5+ 60. Qxg5+

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.02.06"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Crafty-20.14, 7 ply search depth"]
[Black "GetClub, easy level"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "60/300"]

1. f4 d5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. e3 Bg4 4. Bb5 Nf6 5. h3 Bxf3 6. Qxf3 e6 7. d3 Bd6 8.
Bd2 O-O 9. O-O Ne7 10. Nc3 a6 11. Ba4 b5 12. Bb3 b4 13. Ne2 Ng6 14. c4 dxc4
15. Bxc4 c5 16. a3 a5 17. Rfc1 Nh4 18. Qf2 Nd7 19. Bb5 Ng6 20. axb4 cxb4
21. f5 exf5 22. Qxf5 Nde5 23. d4 Qb8 24. Ba4 Ne7 25. Qe4 f5 26. Bb3+ Kh8
27. Qb1 N5g6 28. Qd3 Rf6 29. Rc2 Nc6 30. Rxc6 Bh2+ 31. Kh1 Rxc6 32. Bd5 Ne7
33. Bxc6 Nxc6 34. Qxf5 Ne7 35. Qg5 Bd6 36. e4 Qe8 37. Rxa5 Rxa5 38. Qxa5
Ng8 39. e5 Qh5 40. Ng1 Qf5 41. Bxb4 Bxb4 42. Qxb4 h6 43. Qd6 h5 44. d5 h4
45. b4 g6 46. e6 g5 47. b5 g4 48. hxg4 Qg6 49. Qe5+ Qf6 50. Qxf6+ Nxf6 51.
d6 Ne4 52. d7 Kg7 53. d8=Q Nf2+ 54. Kh2 Nxg4+ 55. Kh3 Nf6 56. Qe7+ Kg6 57.
g4 Nh7 58. Nf3
{Black resigns} 1-0

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 04 Feb 2008 22:33:53
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Improvement done

I think you try Playing with Easy Level and Crafty. And let me know
what depth of Crafty Matches with Easy Level. Easy Level will play in
20-30 seconds / Move. But the moves by Easy Level will be much decent
than Beginner Level.

But before you do that you need to to do two things.

1. Crafty use only 1 core.
2. Crafty do not think on Opponents time.

I feel Easy Level will need atleast depth 6/7 for Crafty to win.

Then let me know time taken by Crafty for playing 7 depth. GetClub
Takes 1 second to compute till 7 depth.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 05 Feb 2008 18:20:33
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

> Then let me know time taken by Crafty for playing 7 depth. GetClub
> Takes 1 second to compute till 7 depth.

I played a match using only one core and no thinking on opponents
time, with the search depth set to 7. GetClub was running on a
different machine, which is about as fast as a single core on the
machine crafty was running on.

Below is an extract from craftys log file, which shows (second column)
that the thinking time is between 0.01 and 0.17 seconds. The third
column shows craftys evaluation of the position, where + is good for
white and - is good for black.

GetClub played ok until move 13. I don't see why it would play Rf3
unless there is something wrong in the quiescence search.

7- > 0.03 -0.21 4. ... Bf5 5. Nc3 e6 6. e4 dxe4 7.
7- > 0.02 -0.29 5. ... Bg6 6. e3 Ngf6 7. Ne2 e5 8.
7- > 0.07 -0.39 6. ... Ngf6 7. e3 e5 8. Qe2 Bc5 9.
7- > 0.04 -0.49 7. ... e5 8. d4 Bb4 9. Bxd7+ Nxd7 10.
7- > 0.14 -0.52 8. ... exf4 9. gxf4 Bc5 10. Bg2 c6
7- > 0.17 -0.74 9. ... Qe7 10. f5 Bh5 11. Nxd5 Nxd5
7- > 0.04 -0.72 10. ... O-O-O 11. Ne5 c6 12. Bxd7+
7- > 0.08 -1.00 11. ... Re8 12. Kh1 Kb8 13. f5 Bh5
7- > 0.07 -0.23 12. ... c6 13. Nxd7 Nxd7 14. f5 d4
7- > 0.05 -2.46 13. ... Bh5 14. Bf5 Kc7 15. Nxd7 Bxf3
7- > 0.06 -2.56 14. ... Bxf3+ 15. Qxf3 h5 16. Bf5 h4
7- > 0.04 -2.62 15. ... h5 16. Bf5 h4 17. a4 Kb8 18.
7- > 0.04 -2.88 16. ... g6 17. Bxd7+ Kxd7 18. a4 Kc8
7- > 0.01 -2.75 17. ... Kxd7 18. a4 Kc8 19. a5 Bg7
7- > 0.03 -2.91 18. ... Kc8 19. Bd4 Kb8 20. c4 Bg7
7- > 0.03 -2.83 19. ... Kb8 20. c4 Rg8 21. Nc3 Bg7
7- > 0.03 -3.21 20. ... Ka8 21. Qe2 Bg7 22. c4 Rhg8
7- > 0.03 -3.19 21. ... Ng4 22. Qf1 f6 23. Bd4 dxc4
7- > 0.03 -3.04 22. ... Nxe5 23. fxe5 dxc4 24. bxc4
7- > 0.02 -3.05 23. ... dxc4 24. bxc4 g5 25. Rb1 g4
7- > 0.05 -3.30 24. ... Bg7 25. d4 f6 26. Nh4 Rh6 27.
7- > 0.04 -2.91 25. ... f6 26. Nh4 Rh6 27. Rg1 fxe5
7- > 0.02 -2.88 26. ... Rh6 27. Rg1 fxe5 28. Nxg6 Qc7
7- > 0.03 -3.18 27. ... fxe5 28. Nxg6 Qc7 29. Nc5 exd4
7- > 0.02 -3.21 28. ... Qc7 29. Nc5 exd4 30. exd4 h4
7- > 0.03 -3.54 29. ... exd4 30. Ne6 Qf7 31. Nxd4 Qxc4
7- > 0.08 -4.34 30. ... h4 31. a4 h3 32. Nd3 Rc8 33.
7- > 0.08 -4.23 31. ... h3 32. a4 Rd8 33. b5 Qd6 34.
7- > 0.08 -4.34 32. ... Bf6 33. a4 Rd8 34. Qd3 Qf7
7- > 0.05 -4.83 33. ... Qf7 34. Qf5 Rg8 35. Nf4 Qxa2
7- > 0.10 -4.09 34. ... Rh7 35. Nf4 Rhh8 36. Nxh3 Re5
7- > 0.09 -4.10 35. ... Rg7 36. Nf4 Qc4 37. Rxg7 Bxg7
7- > 0.13 -4.50 36. ... Reg8 37. Nf4 Rxg3 38. hxg3
7- > 0.06 -8.27 37. ... Qa2 38. Qxh3 Bxe5 39. Rxg7
7- > 0.03 -9.52 38. ... Rxg4 39. Qxg4 Rxg4 40. Rxg4
7- > 0.01 -9.55 39. ... Rxg4 40. Rxg4 Be5 41. Kg1 Qxh2+
7- > 0.02 -11.73 40. ... Be5 41. Kg1 Qb1+ 42. Kf2 Qb2+
7- > 0.06 -14.23 41. ... Bxh2+ 42. Kf1 Qb1+ 43. Kf2
7- > 0.02 -13.97 42. ... Qb1+ 43. Kf2 Qb2+ 44. Kf3 Qa3+
7- > 0.01 -14.57 43. ... Qb2+ 44. Kf3 Qa3+ 45. Ke2 Qe3+
7- > 0.02 -14.95 44. ... Qc3+ 45. Ke2 Qe3+ 46. Kd1 Qf3+
7- > 0.03 -18.74 45. ... d3 46. Rg8+ Bb8 47. Nxd3 Qxd3+
7- > 0.42 -Mat04 48. ... Qxd3+ 49. Ke1 h2 50. a6 h1=Q+

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.02.05"]
[Round "-"]
[White "GetClub easy level"]
[Black "Crafty-20.14, search depth 7"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "40/300"]

1. b3 d5 2. Bb2 Bg4 3. g3 Nd7 4. f3 Bf5 5. Bh3 Bg6 6. Nc3 Ngf6 7. e3 e5 8.
f4 exf4 9. gxf4 Qe7 10. Nf3 O-O-O 11. O-O Re8 12. Ne5 c6 13. Rf3 Bh5 14.
Kh1 Bxf3+ 15. Nxf3 h5 16. Bf5 g6 17. Bxd7+ Kxd7 18. Na4 Kc8 19. Bd4 Kb8 20.
Be5+ Ka8 21. c4 Ng4 22. Qf1 Nxe5 23. fxe5 dxc4 24. Qxc4 Bg7 25. d4 f6 26.
Nh4 Rh6 27. Rg1 fxe5 28. Nxg6 Qc7 29. Nc5 exd4 30. e4 h4 31. b4 h3 32. Rg3
Bf6 33. Qf1 Qf7 34. Qf5 Rh7 35. a4 Rg7 36. a5 Reg8 37. Ne5 Qa2 38. Ng4 Rxg4
39. Qxg4 Rxg4 40. Rxg4 Be5 41. Kg1 Bxh2+ 42. Kf1 Qb1+ 43. Kf2 Qb2+ 44. Ke1
Qc3+ 45. Kd1 d3 46. Rg8+ Bb8 47. Rxb8+ Kxb8 48. Nxd3 Qxd3+ 49. Ke1 h2
{White resigns} 0-1

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 04 Feb 2008 22:30:36
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Date: 04 Feb 2008 04:02:50
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

A few improvements were done, Now it will not play unnecesary pawn
moves. Your analysis really helping me in improving GetClub Games. Now
From today you will be seeing very good moves from GetClub Beginner.

Here is a game it played against Jester, But it lost the game despite
improvements. Look likes improvements gone in wrong direction.

Game Played between Jester and beginner at GetClub.com

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jester: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15628&game=Chess
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

White -- Black
(Jester) -- (beginner)

1. e2-e4{4} e7-e5{0}
2. Ng1-f3{6} Nb8-c6{0}
3. Bf1-b5{6} Ng8-f6{0}
4. d2-d3{6} Bf8-b4{6}
5. c2-c3{12} Bb4-d6{10}
6. Nb1-d2{12} Ke8-g8{8}
7. Nd2-c4{10} Nf6-g4{22}
8. h2-h3{10} Ng4-f6{6}
9. Bc1-g5{10} b7-b6{6}
10. Bb5-c6{14} d7-c6{6}
11. Nc4-e5{10} c6-c5{22}
12. Ke1-g1{10} Rf8-e8{16}
13. Ne5-c4{12} Bc8-b7{12}
14. Qd1-b3{10} h7-h6{6}
15. Bg5-f6{10} Qd8-f6{6}
16. e4-e5{10} Qf6-g6{6}
17. Nf3-h4{14} Qg6-d3{10}
18. Rf1-d1{18} Qd3-e4{6}
19. Nh4-f3{16} Bd6-e5{14}
20. Nc4-e5{8} Re8-e5{10}
21. Rd1-e1{14} Qe4-f3{8}
22. g2-f3{36} Re5-g5{18}
23. Kg1-f1{10} Bb7-f3{10}
24. Re1-e7{10} Bf3-g2{6}
25. Kf1-e2{10} Rg5-f5{22}
26. Qb3-a4{14} Rf5-f6{22}
27. Qa4-d7{12} Bg2-c6{8}
28. Qd7-c7{10} Bc6-f3{12}
29. Ke2-f1{12} a7-a6{14}
30. Ra1-e1{12} Bf3-d5{14}
31. b2-b3{14} Kg8-h8{22}
32. c3-c4{10} Bd5-e6{6}
33. Re1-e6{12} Rf6-e6{14}
34. Re7-e6{10} f7-e6{8}
35. Qc7-b6{10} Ra8-f8{22}
36. Qb6-a6{10} Rf8-f6{10}
37. Qa6-c8{10} Kh8-h7{20}
38. Qc8-c5{10} Rf6-f3{22}
39. Qc5-e5{10} Rf3-f6{10}
40. c4-c5{10} Kh7-h8{14}
41. c5-c6{10} Rf6-f5{10}
42. Qe5-f5{8} e6-f5{6}
43. c6-c7{10} Kh8-h7{22}
44. a2-a4{10} g7-g6{22}
45. a4-a5{14} f5-f4{22}
46. a5-a6{10} h6-h5{22}
47. Qc7-c8{Q}{12} Kh7-g7{22}
48. a6-a7{12} Kg7-h6{10}
49. Qa7-a8{Q}{12} g6-g5{6}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jester: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15628&game=Chess

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Date: 03 Feb 2008 23:34:49
From: Sanny
Subject: Improvement done

> > The challenge now is to find a win with a 4 ply search!
>
> I tried that, but crafty got into serious trouble. It managed to
> survive though becauseGetClubapparently doesn't understand the
> danger of letting the opponents pawns advance.
>
> GetClubagain declared a draw one move too early, but I don't think
> crafty would have won anyway, unlessGetClubwould have made another
> mistake.

Today an Improvement was done on Pawn Formation, Let me know now it
plays Pawns correctly or not.

Now it will not play pawns aimlessly. May be that helps.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 04 Feb 2008 22:44:05
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Improvement done

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

>> > The challenge now is to find a win with a 4 ply search!
>>
>> I tried that, but crafty got into serious trouble. It managed to
>> survive though becauseGetClubapparently doesn't understand the
>> danger of letting the opponents pawns advance.
>>
>> GetClubagain declared a draw one move too early, but I don't think
>> crafty would have won anyway, unlessGetClubwould have made another
>> mistake.
>
> Today an Improvement was done on Pawn Formation, Let me know now it
> plays Pawns correctly or not.
>
> Now it will not play pawns aimlessly. May be that helps.

I don't know. It seemed to play reasonably for a while but then
blundered in the end getting into a losing position. However it
"saved" the day by for no apparent reason declaring the game a draw
when it was in a lost position. It's not sure crafty would have found
the winning continuation with its 4 ply search depth though.

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.02.04"]
[Round "-"]
[White "GetClub beginner level"]
[Black "Crafty-20.14, 4 ply search depth"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "40/300"]

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 c6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. h3 Bxf3 7. Qxf3 e6
8. Bd3 Nf6 9. O-O Qb4 10. Bg5 Nbd7 11. Qe3 Qxb2 12. Bf5 Bb4 13. Na4 Nd5 14.
Nxb2 Nxe3 15. fxe3 exf5 16. Nd3 Bc3 17. Rab1 h6 18. Bf4 O-O-O 19. Rb3 Ba5
20. Rf3 Rhe8 21. c4 Bd2 22. Rb2 Ba5 23. c5 h5 24. Rb3 Bd2 25. Rb2 Ba5 26.
a4 Bc7 27. Bxc7 Kxc7 28. a5 g6 29. a6 bxa6 30. Ra2 Rb8 31. Rxa6 Rb1+ 32.
Kh2 Kb7 33. Ra3 h4 34. Ra2 Rb3 35. Rb2 Rxb2 36. Nxb2 a5 37. Nc4 Ka6 38. Kh1
Rb8 39. Rf4 Rh8 40. Rf1 Rb8 41. Ra1 Rb5 42. Nd6 Rb3 43. Kg1 Rd3 44. Nc4 Kb5
45. Na3+ Kb4 46. Nc2+ Kc3 47. Ne1 Rxe3 48. Nf3 Kb4 49. Rb1+ Kc3 50. Rb7 Nf8
51. Rxf7 Rxf3 52. gxf3 Ne6 53. Rf6 Nxd4 54. Rxg6 Kc4 55. Kh1 Kxc5 56. Kg2
Nc2 57. Rh6 a4 58. Rxh4 Nd4 59. Rh8 Kb4 60. Rb8+ Nb5 61. h4 a3 62. Ra8 Kb3
63. h5 Kb2 64. h6 Nd6 65. h7 Nf7 66. Rb8+ Kc2 67. Ra8 Kb3 68. Ra7 a2 69.
Ra8 Kb2 70. h8=N Nxh8 71. Rb8+ Kc1 72. Ra8 Kb2 73. Rb8+ Kc2 74. Ra8 Kb3 75.
Rb8+ Kc2 76. Ra8 Kb3 77. Ra6 c5 78. Ra5 Ng6 79. Kh2 c4 80. f4 Kb2 81. Rb5+
Ka3 82. Ra5+ Kb2 83. Rb5+ Ka3
*

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 03 Feb 2008 09:52:07
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

> > On my Computer GetClubs Beginner Level thinks 5-6 Depth deep. How much
> > is shown on your Computer.
>
> > Two things need toi be done play both on Single Core computer with
> > Thinking in Opponents move not allowed Else Crafty gets 15 times more
> > processing power.
>
> I already did this match wereGetClubgets about 1000 times more
> computation time. (10s versus .01s.)

What was the depth shown by Beginner Level was it 5/6.

It shows depth of thinking like "Thinking on Bishop(5)" Meaning It is
thinking at 5 depth.

On my Computer it plays with 5-6 depth What was the depth on your
Computer?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 03 Feb 2008 19:06:23
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

>> > On my Computer GetClubs Beginner Level thinks 5-6 Depth deep. How much
>> > is shown on your Computer.
>>
>> > Two things need toi be done play both on Single Core computer with
>> > Thinking in Opponents move not allowed Else Crafty gets 15 times more
>> > processing power.
>>
>> I already did this match wereGetClubgets about 1000 times more
>> computation time. (10s versus .01s.)
>
> What was the depth shown by Beginner Level was it 5/6.
>
> It shows depth of thinking like "Thinking on Bishop(5)" Meaning It is
> thinking at 5 depth.
>
> On my Computer it plays with 5-6 depth What was the depth on your
> Computer?

Unfortunately I don't know. I was running GetClub chess in firefox on
linux and for some reason the font size gets so big that the text
doesn't fit in the box.

I'll play another game where I let GetClub chess play on my laptop in
windows XP instead (3.07 GHz Pentium 4 CPU), and report what happens.

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 03 Feb 2008 19:33:16
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Peter Osterlund <[email protected] > writes:

> Sanny <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>> > On my Computer GetClubs Beginner Level thinks 5-6 Depth deep. How much
>>> > is shown on your Computer.
>>>
>>> > Two things need toi be done play both on Single Core computer with
>>> > Thinking in Opponents move not allowed Else Crafty gets 15 times more
>>> > processing power.
>>>
>>> I already did this match wereGetClubgets about 1000 times more
>>> computation time. (10s versus .01s.)
>>
>> What was the depth shown by Beginner Level was it 5/6.
>>
>> It shows depth of thinking like "Thinking on Bishop(5)" Meaning It is
>> thinking at 5 depth.
>>
>> On my Computer it plays with 5-6 depth What was the depth on your
>> Computer?
>
> Unfortunately I don't know. I was running GetClub chess in firefox on
> linux and for some reason the font size gets so big that the text
> doesn't fit in the box.
>
> I'll play another game where I let GetClub chess play on my laptop in
> windows XP instead (3.07 GHz Pentium 4 CPU), and report what happens.

I played a game like that. GetClub playing on the laptop on beginner
level, reaching 5 ply in the opening, 5-6 ply in the middle game, and
6-7 ply (with an occational 8 ply) in the end game. Crafty was running
on the linux computer with its search depth set to 5 ply, which means
its thinking time is about 0.01s using only one core. Crafty still won
pretty easily, see game below.

Is your alfa-beta algorithm working correctly? I can imagine that java
is slower than C, but it shouldn't be 500 times slower. (Or maybe
craftys "null move" search makes up for some of the speed difference.)

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.02.03"]
[Round "-"]
[White "GetClub beginner level"]
[Black "Crafty-20.14, 5 ply search depth"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "60/120"]

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Bc4 c6 6. Nf3 Bg4 7. Qe2 Nbd7
8. h3 Qh5 9. Be3 Bxf3 10. gxf3 O-O-O 11. O-O-O e6 12. Ne4 Qf5 13. Ng5 Nd5
14. Bxd5 exd5 15. Qd3 Qf6 16. Nxh7 Qxf3 17. Rhg1 g6 18. Nxf8 Rhxf8 19. Rg3
Qe4 20. Qxe4 dxe4 21. d5 cxd5 22. Rxd5 b6 23. Bg5 f6 24. Bf4 Rg8 25. f3
exf3 26. Kb1 Ne5 27. Rxd8+ Rxd8 28. Rg1 Rh8 29. Bg3 Rxh3 30. b4 Rxg3 31.
Rf1 Rg2 32. b5 f2 33. Rc1 Rg1 34. Rf1 Rxf1+ 35. Kb2 Re1 36. a3 f1=Q
{White resigns} 0-1

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Date: 03 Feb 2008 20:23:17
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

tin Brown <

Date: 03 Feb 2008 08:32:12
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

On Feb 3, 4:15=A0pm, Peter Osterlund <[email protected] > wrote:
> tin Brown <

Date: 03 Feb 2008 17:42:02
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

> On Feb 3, 4:15 pm, Peter Osterlund <[email protected]> wrote:
>> tin Brown <

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Date: 03 Feb 2008 11:15:44
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

tin Brown <

Date: 03 Feb 2008 01:52:07
From: Sanny
Subject: GetClub Easy Vs Jester 40sec/ Move.

I Played a game between GetClub Easy Level which takes 20-40 sec /
move and Jester which always takes 40 seconds/ move.

I played both with Higher level So that there is less calculation
mistake and we can see what real mistake GetClub Chess is making.

Please Analyze and let me know which were the wrong moves that must be
avoided by Black. As Black lost the game in just 56 moves despite
playing with Easy level which is one step ahead of Beginner Level.

Since Both took atleast 40 seconds per move a strong analysis will be
needed to find the mistakes in the game.

Game Played between Jester and easy at GetClub.com

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jester: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15493&game=Chess
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

White -- Black
(Jester) -- (easy)

1. e2-e4{16} e7-e5{0}
2. Ng1-f3{6} Nb8-c6{0}
3. Bf1-b5{6} a7-a6{0}
4. Bb5-c6{6} d7-c6{82}
5. Ke1-g1{8} Ng8-f6{30}
6. d2-d3{48} Qd8-d6{22}
7. Nb1-c3{46} Bc8-g4{62}
8. h2-h3{50} Bg4-h5{82}
9. Bc1-g5{52} Ke8-c8{82}
10. g2-g4{48} Bh5-g6{42}
11. Nf3-h4{46} Kc8-b8{38}
12. Qd1-c1{48} Bf8-e7{82}
13. Nc3-e2{74} b7-b5{84}
14. a2-a4{50} h7-h6{20}
15. Nh4-g6{260} f7-g6{28}
16. Bg5-e3{50} b5-b4{50}
17. b2-b3{50} c6-c5{48}
18. Qc1-b2{44} Nf6-h7{22}
19. Kg1-h2{46} Be7-h4{72}
20. f2-f4{50} Bh4-f6{20}
21. Qb2-b1{46} e5-f4{42}
22. Be3-f4{48} Qd6-e6{22}
23. Ra1-a2{46} Bf6-e5{24}
24. Qb1-e1{50} Rh8-f8{20}
25. Bf4-e5{46} Qe6-e5{28}
26. Qe1-g3{44} Qe5-g3{68}
27. Ne2-g3{46} Rf8-f1{20}
28. Ng3-f1{60} Nh7-g5{28}
29. Kh2-g3{48} c5-c4{52}
30. b3-c4{50} Rd8-f8{26}
31. Nf1-d2{46} Kb8-a8{82}
32. Ra2-b2{44} c7-c5{72}
33. a4-a5{88} Rf8-f6{62}
34. Rb2-b1{64} h6-h5{50}
35. Rb1-b3{48} Ng5-e6{44}
36. e4-e5{48} Rf6-f8{22}
37. Nd2-e4{78} h5-g4{24}
38. h3-g4{50} Rf8-d8{26}
39. Ne4-d6{50} Ne6-d4{58}
40. Rb3-b2{96} g6-g5{28}
41. Nd6-e4{50} Nd4-e6{82}
42. Rb2-b1{46} Ka8-b7{24}
43. Ne4-d6{48} Kb7-a7{48}
44. Rb1-f1{48} Rd8-h8{52}
45. Rf1-f7{46} Ka7-a8{82}
46. Rf7-e7{50} Rh8-h6{22}
47. Nd6-e4{48} Ka8-b8{20}
48. Ne4-f6{48} Ne6-d4{26}
49. Nf6-d7{46} Kb8-a8{34}
50. Nd7-c5{44} Nd4-c2{32}
51. Re7-e8{44} Ka8-a7{20}
52. e5-e6{44} g7-g6{56}
53. e6-e7{46} Rh6-h7{40}
54. Re8-a8{44} Ka7-a8{36}
55. Qe7-e8{Q}{20} Ka8-a7{78}
56. Qe8-g6{18} Rh7-d7{52}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jester: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15493&game=Chess

In the End game GetClub played weak moves and lost. It was equal game
in middle game. What are the serious wrong moves played by GetClub
Easy Level.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 03 Feb 2008 00:36:50
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

> > So the reasion of this horrible play is that Crafty is thinking when
> >GetClubProgram is also thinking. So the strength ofGetClubBeginner
> > level reduces to half. Since Beginner Level has to play in 5-10
> > seconds So if other program is also running simultaniously then the
> > strength of theGetClubProgram reduced to half.
>
> I'm using a quad core CPU andgetclubis getting one core all to
> itself. Crafty is using the other 3 cores. It doesn't look likegetclub
> can use more than one core, so turning off crafty's thinking on
> opponents time would not makegetclubstronger. (But would make crafty
> weaker.)

How do you know Crafty is not using all the Four Processors. And
GetClub is getting Complete one Core. May Be Crafty is taking 3.5
Cores and GetClub is using just 0.5 Core So Crafty is actually using 7
times more processing power when GetClub is moving.

And in its own move it is taking 8 times more power than GetClub is
taking.

So a total of 7+8=15 times for CPU usage. So if Crafty is using 15
times more power than GetClub then I can imagine such poor games.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 03 Feb 2008 08:50:00
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

>> > So the reasion of this horrible play is that Crafty is thinking when
>> >GetClubProgram is also thinking. So the strength ofGetClubBeginner
>> > level reduces to half. Since Beginner Level has to play in 5-10
>> > seconds So if other program is also running simultaniously then the
>> > strength of theGetClubProgram reduced to half.
>>
>> I'm using a quad core CPU andgetclubis getting one core all to
>> itself. Crafty is using the other 3 cores. It doesn't look likegetclub
>> can use more than one core, so turning off crafty's thinking on
>> opponents time would not makegetclubstronger. (But would make crafty
>> weaker.)
>
> How do you know Crafty is not using all the Four Processors. And
> GetClub is getting Complete one Core. May Be Crafty is taking 3.5
> Cores and GetClub is using just 0.5 Core So Crafty is actually using 7
> times more processing power when GetClub is moving.

I "reniced" the crafty threads so that the GetClub thread is getting
priority, and I verified with "top" that GetClub is getting 100% of
one core. (I'm using linux, I'm aware that "renice" and "top" may not
be familiar to windows users.)

> And in its own move it is taking 8 times more power than GetClub is
> taking.
>
> So a total of 7+8=15 times for CPU usage. So if Crafty is using 15
> times more power than GetClub then I can imagine such poor games.

I'll try some more games with crafty using only one thread and not
thinking on the opponents time to see if it makes a difference.

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 03 Feb 2008 10:07:22
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Peter Osterlund <[email protected] > writes:

> I'll try some more games with crafty using only one thread and not
> thinking on the opponents time to see if it makes a difference.

I played one game with crafty using only one thread, not thinking on
the opponents time, and using one second per move thinking time. This
should give GetClub a factor 10 advantage in terms of CPU time.

Crafty still got into a winning position but then GetClub cheated and
declared the game a draw after the same position was repeated two
times. (It must be repeated three times before you are allowed to
claim a draw.)

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 02 Feb 2008 12:14:00
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

> > That Solves the Mystry, Thats what I was wondering others are taking
> > 80 Moves to win and you are winning in just 20-30 moves. Which Engine
> > you are testing with is it Fritz/ Rybka/ Chess Master ?
>
> I'm testing with crafty, set to an average thinking time of 5
> seconds. However, it does think also when it's the oppoenents turn to
> move, so the actual thinking time gets longer in the cases where
> crafty correctly predicts which move the opponent will make.

So the reasion of this horrible play is that Crafty is thinking when
GetClub Program is also thinking. So the strength of GetClub Beginner
level reduces to half. Since Beginner Level has to play in 5-10
seconds So if other program is also running simultaniously then the
strength of the GetClub Program reduced to half.

If you can switch the thinking in Opponents time then I suppose
GetClub program will make better moves. As it has to share processing
speed with the other Program. So Beginner only uses half resources.

About rest of the things you said I will talk tommorow as I have to
leave today for some work.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 02 Feb 2008 21:32:20
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

>> > That Solves the Mystry, Thats what I was wondering others are taking
>> > 80 Moves to win and you are winning in just 20-30 moves. Which Engine
>> > you are testing with is it Fritz/ Rybka/ Chess Master ?
>>
>> I'm testing with crafty, set to an average thinking time of 5
>> seconds. However, it does think also when it's the oppoenents turn to
>> move, so the actual thinking time gets longer in the cases where
>> crafty correctly predicts which move the opponent will make.
>
> So the reasion of this horrible play is that Crafty is thinking when
> GetClub Program is also thinking. So the strength of GetClub Beginner
> level reduces to half. Since Beginner Level has to play in 5-10
> seconds So if other program is also running simultaniously then the
> strength of the GetClub Program reduced to half.

I'm using a quad core CPU and getclub is getting one core all to
itself. Crafty is using the other 3 cores. It doesn't look like getclub
can use more than one core, so turning off crafty's thinking on
opponents time would not make getclub stronger. (But would make crafty
weaker.)

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 02 Feb 2008 08:55:43
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

> > 8. f2-f4{22} e5-f4{18}
>
> What a difference a move makes! Too late! Now f4? is losing. Whites
> king will rapidly be denuded of pawn shelter.

When King has not chastled which are the pawns which should not be
moved ahead?

We prefer d4/e4 when the king is sitting just behind them. Then why we
do not like move f4/g4. Why do they weaken the King while d4/e4 do
not? Same thing is happening in both cases that is the pawns infront
of king are moved?

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

> Does the program have a killer move heuristic? These sorts of position
> where the opponent has a consistent and powerful threat (Rhg8) that
> refutes most of whites possible moves are amenable to faster
> searching.

I do not understand what you mean by "killer move heuristic?"

> > 18. a2-a3
>
> You might have hoped the program would find one of Rc1 or e4 which
> delay the inevitable.

The program saw a benefit of Bishop if Rxc2 after playing a2-a3. It
was only after lots of moves it was having a checkmate after 12 moves.

> But I would say Begginner is playing now as well as it ever has.

I am only posting Games where it is loosing you can visit GetClub and
see other games where Beginner has played very well.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 02 Feb 2008 08:55:33
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

On Feb 2, 1:20=A0pm, Peter Osterlund <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sanny <[email protected]> writes:
> >> Now it is very difficult to win even the Beginner Level, So it is very
> >> difficult to get higher ratings.
>
> > A typical game played by Peter with Beginner Level which he won in
> > just 22 moves.
>
> I should add that I'm using a computer, mainly to test the playing
> strength of theGetClubengine. I'm nowhere near that good myself.
>
> --
> Peter Osterlund -

That Solves the Mystry, Thats what I was wondering others are taking
80 Moves to win and you are winning in just 20-30 moves. Which Engine
you are testing with is it Fritz/ Rybka/ Chess Master ?

What is the rating of Beginner Level as per the games played by it.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 02 Feb 2008 18:26:37
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

> On Feb 2, 1:20 pm, Peter Osterlund <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sanny <[email protected]> writes:
>> >> Now it is very difficult to win even the Beginner Level, So it is very
>> >> difficult to get higher ratings.
>>
>> > A typical game played by Peter with Beginner Level which he won in
>> > just 22 moves.
>>
>> I should add that I'm using a computer, mainly to test the playing
>> strength of theGetClubengine. I'm nowhere near that good myself.
>
> That Solves the Mystry, Thats what I was wondering others are taking
> 80 Moves to win and you are winning in just 20-30 moves. Which Engine
> you are testing with is it Fritz/ Rybka/ Chess Master ?

I'm testing with crafty, set to an average thinking time of 5
seconds. However, it does think also when it's the oppoenents turn to
move, so the actual thinking time gets longer in the cases where
crafty correctly predicts which move the opponent will make.

> What is the rating of Beginner Level as per the games played by it.

I can't get a rating number out of the games I've played, but here are
some subjective thoughts: (Others have said similar things before.)

* It seems to prefer playing knights to a3/h3/a6/h6 too often. In
general, knights are stronger the closer they are to the center of
the board, so it should prefer c3/f3/c6/f6 instead.

* There seems to be something wrong in the quiescence search which
sometimes makes it do very bad things when the position gets
complicated. Someone gave the good advice that the quiescence search
should not stop as long as its possible to capture a piece that is
worth more than the piece used for the capture.

For a general explanation of quiescence search, see this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiescence_search

* Another possibility is that the program is vulnerable to the
"horizon effect". I've seen it do bad moves that give away more
material than necessary just to delay the loss of other material.
"Singular extensions", "capture extensions" and/or "check
extensions" might be able to solve some of these problems.

For a general explanation of the horizon effect, see this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_effect

* All in all it plays pretty decent chess for beginner level. If you
were to correctly implement all suggestions given by all people, the
program would probably be so strong that most people would not be
interested in playing against it.

However, it would be nice if the higher levels could be made
stronger without increasing the thinking time so much. The reason I
haven't tested the higher levels yet is that it would simply take
more time than I have available.

Also, regarding the "killer heuristic" asked in another post,
wikipedia has a pretty good explanation here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_heuristic

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Date: 02 Feb 2008 00:06:12
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

> Now it is very difficult to win even the Beginner Level, So it is very
> difficult to get higher ratings.

A typical game played by Peter with Beginner Level which he won in
just 22 moves.

Game Played between peter and beginner at GetClub.com

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
peter: (Black)
beginner: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15403&game=Chess
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

White -- Black
(beginner) -- (peter)

1. b2-b3{0} d7-d5{12}
2. Bc1-b2{0} Bc8-g4{6}
3. g2-g3{0} Nb8-d7{6}
4. Bf1-h3{12} Bg4-h3{16}
5. Ng1-h3{12} Ng8-f6{4}
6. Bb2-f6{6} Nd7-f6{16}
7. Nh3-g5{12} e7-e5{14}
8. f2-f4{22} e5-f4{18}
9. g3-f4{14} Nf6-e4{10}
10. Ng5-e4{12} d5-e4{12}
11. e2-e3{6} Qd8-h4{8}
12. Ke1-f1{12} Ke8-c8{34}
13. Nb1-c3{22} g7-g5{18}
14. f4-g5{20} Bf8-b4{14}
15. Qd1-e1{22} Qh4-g5{16}
16. Nc3-e4{22} Qg5-f5{18}
17. Ne4-f2{20} Rd8-d2{6}
18. a2-a3{22} Rd2-c2{16}
19. a3-b4{14} Qf5-b5{18}
20. Kf1-g1{20} Rh8-g8{6}
21. Nf2-g4{6} Rg8-g4{6}
22. Qe1-g3{18}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
peter: (Black)
beginner: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM15403&game=Chess

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 02 Feb 2008 08:20:18
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Winners of Jan 2008 at GetClub Chess.

Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

>> Now it is very difficult to win even the Beginner Level, So it is very
>> difficult to get higher ratings.
>
> A typical game played by Peter with Beginner Level which he won in
> just 22 moves.

I should add that I'm using a computer, mainly to test the playing
strength of the GetClub engine. I'm nowhere near that good myself.

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340