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Date: 29 Apr 2006 03:15:26
From: keithbc
Subject: best engine/software for analysis
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I have fritz 5.32.
I want to upgrade
I am unsure if i should stick with fritz or try something else [just
for a change]
One factor which im interested in is the presentation and depth of the
analysis
Does anyone have any views of which is best, or has anyone compared any
two/three pieces of software?
many thanks
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Date: 01 May 2006 15:11:54
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: best engine/software for analysis
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keithbc <[email protected] > wrote:
> I have fritz 5.32.
> I want to upgrade
> I am unsure if i should stick with fritz or try something else [just
> for a change]
> One factor which im interested in is the presentation and depth of the
> analysis
>
> Does anyone have any views of which is best, or has anyone compared any
> two/three pieces of software?
>
I like Junior 9 or Shredder 8 (or 9). I recently picked up Fritz 9 due to an
expiring playchess membership and the large database, but I can't personally
tell the difference between Fritz 8 and 9 as far as capability goes. I do
like the way Shredder and Junior seem to play a little more positionally.
Fritz seems to smack up the opponent more. If you like positional play, I
suggest Junior or Shredder, but for highly aggresive play, consider sticking
with Fritz. I am not sure that you can go wrong with any of them.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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Date: 01 May 2006 20:50:32
From: HD
Subject: Re: best engine/software for analysis
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> keithbc <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have fritz 5.32.
>> I want to upgrade
>> I am unsure if i should stick with fritz or try something else [just
>> for a change]
>> One factor which im interested in is the presentation and depth of the
>> analysis
>>
>> Does anyone have any views of which is best, or has anyone compared any
>> two/three pieces of software?
>>
>
> I like Junior 9 or Shredder 8 (or 9). I recently picked up Fritz 9 due to an
> expiring playchess membership and the large database, but I can't personally
> tell the difference between Fritz 8 and 9 as far as capability goes. I do
> like the way Shredder and Junior seem to play a little more positionally.
> Fritz seems to smack up the opponent more. If you like positional play, I
> suggest Junior or Shredder, but for highly aggresive play, consider sticking
> with Fritz. I am not sure that you can go wrong with any of them.
>
Junior is almost notoriously aggressive, a super tactical engine.
Shredder is, well, more strange in some aspects.
Fritz 9 is basically more tactical (aggressive) than Fritz 8.
If you like the more positional flair, Hiarcs is a good choice, though
also Hiarcs 10 tends to be more aggressive than previous versions.
HD
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Date: 02 May 2006 12:39:19
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: best engine/software for analysis
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HD <[email protected] > wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
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> Junior is almost notoriously aggressive, a super tactical engine.
> Shredder is, well, more strange in some aspects.
> Fritz 9 is basically more tactical (aggressive) than Fritz 8.
> If you like the more positional flair, Hiarcs is a good choice, though
> also Hiarcs 10 tends to be more aggressive than previous versions.
>
You are correct ... I was mistaken about Junior. I tend to use Shredder 8 in
much of my analysis as it seems to be the most instructional to me. Honestly,
if you compare the results between engines after long analysis (say 20s 20s
with a database and tablebases on a P4 3.0GHz 1G 1066RDRAM) you tend to get
very nearly identical results much of the time.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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Date: 03 May 2006 17:59:26
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: best engine/software for analysis
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Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected] > wrote:
> Honestly, if you compare the results between engines after long
> analysis (say 20s 20s with a database and tablebases on a P4 3.0GHz
> 1G 1066RDRAM) you tend to get very nearly identical results much of
> the time.
It doesn't take much of an engine to spot the tactical opportunities
overlooked by at least one of the players in a sub-master game.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Flammable Nuclear Newspaper (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a daily broadsheet that's made
of atoms but it burns really easily!
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Date: 30 Apr 2006 14:08:59
From: Sumerian
Subject: Re: best engine/software for analysis
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For 10x8 chess there is nothing like SMIRF (covering 8x8, too).
Reinhard.
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Date: 29 Apr 2006 18:16:32
From: HD
Subject: Re: best engine/software for analysis
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keithbc skrev:
> I have fritz 5.32.
> I want to upgrade
> I am unsure if i should stick with fritz or try something else [just
> for a change]
> One factor which im interested in is the presentation and depth of the
> analysis
>
> Does anyone have any views of which is best, or has anyone compared any
> two/three pieces of software?
>
> many thanks
>
Engines is engines.
For strong, though "human-like" engine-analysis, I prefer Rybka and Hiarcs.
Pretty strong analysis is also gained from Prodeo and Junior, again in
the human-like corner.
What to choose is very indidually.
HD
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