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Date: 27 Nov 2007 09:48:11
From: samsloan
Subject: A Non-Denial Denial by Paul Truong
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[quote="George"][quote="relyea"][quote="George"]Remember Paul has protested loudly and clearly that he is completely innocent and I believe him. [/quote] George, You've mentioned this or something similar several times, but you've given no evidence. Did Mr. Truong ever say that he was "completely innocent" publically? If so, where? He certainly hasn't on this forum anywhere. Alex Relyea[/quote] Well the only place he can post without a jahad attack is over at the other web site. http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/index.php http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/search.php?author_id=54&sr=posts you will find it there. Others have commented on it. It was some time ago now. There is not much discussion over there so you should find it pretty fast. http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=288&p=1613#p1613 [quote="PaulTruong"] Do I know who did it? Absolutely no. Did I have anything to do with it? Absolutely no. [/quote] Well I think that says it all. I believe Paul.[/quote] Sorry, George, but I have looked at that thread and nowhere does Paul Truong state that he did not do it. Here is the full quote: by PaulTruong on Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:30 am Bill, Since I officially withdrew myself from the USCF forums, this is the only place that I can respond once. This thread will not go further and these people will not be allowed to spread their garbage here. You can bet your bottom dollar that I will fight this absurd and malicious nonsense all the way. These people tried to discredit me for 11 months without success. Now they have stooped to a new low. The person who launched this "private investigation" and made this charge said in writing that he had the authorization or consent from the ED and Bill Goichberg. I have saved every post of his to be used as evidence in court. Both Bill have since said in writing that they did not make this authorization and they were not even aware of it. Now friends of this circle have made public threats that they will use this "evidence" to contact our employer Texas Tech and the NY Times "unless" we resign. You decide. Best regards, Paul Truong http://www.SusanPolgar.com
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Date: 30 Nov 2007 07:11:44
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: A Non-Denial Denial by Paul Truong
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[quote="knibb"]Joe, you may be right. And that may have been true before the election, but that is not how the voters viewed it. Also, if this is a frame, then giving up plays into the hands of those who would continue to attack the federation as they have in the past. I can assure you that for the most, the call for the recall against SS was not for political grandstanding. The people that I know who were a part of it, believed strongly that SS would and did harm the USCF.[/ quote] But your people were in the minority. The pages on my website that you have failed to specify thus far that you find objectionable have been up since at least 1998, because I have made very few changes to my website since then. everybody knew about them and a strong campaign was conducted against me about them especially by Bill Brock. Nevertheless, the votes were counted and I was elected. Then your group tried to overturn the election results through a recall petition which proved unsuccessful. The new situation is that Paul Truong was elected after impersonating other people, priily Sam Sloan but others were impersonated and attacked as well. The voters did not know about this. Had they known, Truong would not have been elected. Therefore, both a lawsuit and a recall petition are a ligitimate means to remove Mr. Truong from the board. Sam Sloan
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Date: 30 Nov 2007 06:48:49
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: A Non-Denial Denial by Paul Truong
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[quote="Brian Mottershead"]The evidence pointing to Paul Truong being the Fake Sam Sloan has been public now since September 26 -- over two months. During all that time, there has not been a single item of evidence brought forward on the other side. Truong's defense from the beginning was simply a denial, attacks on the credibility of the person who gathered the evidence, objections that it was an invasion of his privacy for that evidence to be gathered, and suggestions of various "possibilities" that he was framed. Two months later, he and his defenders are still only talking about "possibilities". We aren't debating evidence from the Truong defenders. We are still only debating just how possible hypothetical possibilities are, and their probability compared to the vastly simpler and straight-forward conclusion that Truong is responsible for the FSS posts. It should be noted that this isn't the first time that the "I've been framed" defense has been raised by Truong and his defenders. One has only to search in this forum for the discussion of his claims of having a Ph.D.. When people produced solid evidence from the Internet Archive that web sites under Truong's control had pages asserting that he had a Ph.D., he claimed these were forgeries. Not a shred of evidence was ever produced of how someone could have obtained his AOL passwords and perpetrated the forgeries, or how someone planted false evidence in the Internet Archive. No explanation was ever given of how Truong did not notice a forged resume on his own web site for years. It was enough for Truong simply to deny it and talk of the possibility of forgeries, and there were people who claimed that the case had not been proved. A mere denial and a flat assertion of "forgery" was enough of a defense for them when it came to Truong. This time the offense is more serious than padding a resume with false academic credentials, and there is a great deal more evidence -- evidence that would be even more difficult to forge or fake. The defenses are once again "forgery", "hacking", etc. And once again this defense, unsupporteed by evidence, is enough to raise sufficient doubt in some people's minds that they feel obliged to adopt a "wait and see" approach. However, this time the issue is not going to be dismissed by invoking mere possibilities.[/quote] More than that, Paul Truong at one point alleged that Sam Sloan had forged his resume to include the Ph.D. degree. In addition, Stan Booz in a posting to rgcp in 2003 pointed out that Paul Truong had circulated a resume at the 2003 US Open in Los Angeles where he was applying for a job as Executive Director stating that he had a Ph.D. degree and numerous persons since then have asked him about that, asking what educational institution awarded him that degree. He never answered those inquiries but the PhD degree stayed on his AOL online biography until 2005 and it was not until 2007 during the election campaign that Truong admitted that he does not have a PhD degree. Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Nov 2007 07:37:30
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: A Non-Denial Denial by Paul Truong
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Sorry, George, but I do not see anything that Paul Truong has written as a denial that he is the Fake Sam Sloan. You consider the following to be a denial, "Do I know who did it? Absolutely no. Did I have anything to do with it? Absolutely no." However, in this quote, Truong fails to explain what the "it" was that he did not do. If he is going to make a denial it should be more clear and unequivocal than that. Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Nov 2007 00:41:50
From: help bot
Subject: Re: A Non-Denial Denial by Paul Truong
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On Nov 27, 12:48 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > [quote="PaulTruong"] > > Do I know who did it? Absolutely no. Did I have anything to do with > it? Absolutely no. > Since I officially withdrew myself from the USCF forums, this is the > only place that I can respond once. This thread will not go further > and these people will not be allowed to spread their garbage here. It's not entirely clear whether PT is referring above to the Fake Sloan postings, or to the atrocious Susan Polgar Web site. > You can bet your bottom dollar that I will fight this absurd and > malicious nonsense all the way. These people tried to discredit me for > 11 months without success. Hmm. It could be that someone has tried to attribute the blame for the SP Web site to PT, who above vehemently denies any connection. > Now they have stooped to a new low. The > person who launched this "private investigation" and made this charge > said in writing that he had the authorization or consent from the ED > and Bill Goichberg. I have saved every post of his to be used as > evidence in court. One cannot sue for insanity -- the only charge which can be proved by presenting a collection of SS postings. > Both Bill have since said in writing that they did > not make this authorization and they were not even aware of it. > > Now friends of this circle have made public threats that they will use > this "evidence" to contact our employer Texas Tech and the NY Times > "unless" we resign. > > You decide. > > Best regards, > Paul Truonghttp://www.SusanPolgar.com I think that decides for us; placing a link to the Web site thus, amounts to self-incrimination. For a while, I felt I was going out on a limb by assuming that PT was a part of that atrocity; now I am vindicated! Judit rules! Susan drools. -- help bot
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Date: 28 Nov 2007 13:01:24
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: A Non-Denial Denial by Paul Truong
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"help bot" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:8f604aca-7d90-4867-b58a-dbae59cd2031@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Judit rules! Susan drools. LOL! True enough.
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