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Date: 21 Oct 2008 09:03:49
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Subject: Anand-Kramnik game 6
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An interesting position after White's 26th move. Anand is a pawn
ahead, but his pieces have very limited scope while Kramnik's are
nicely posted in advanced positions. It will be interesting to see if
and how Anand extricates himself, or how Kramnik capitalizes on his
greater mobility.
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 15:14:48
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Anand-Kramnik game 6
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Now will Kramnik start to panic ?
Hey should Kramnik use a very old opening as white , " Birds Opening
" something like that to try and throw Anand off his game ....
I think he needs to do something drastic to try and turn the tide
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 14:14:30
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Anand Smashes Kramnik Again in Game 6
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It's not looking good for kramnik but if he can get the score to 1-4
he would have a chance.
The most popular score to stage a major comeback from is 1-4.
It's been proved!
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 10:21:53
From:
Subject: Anand Smashes Kramnik Again in Game 6
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1-0, 47. Anand leads +3. Kramnik's in worse shape than the Red Sox
were after game 4 of the ALCS.
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 10:10:30
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Subject: Re: Anand-Kramnik game 6
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On Oct 21, 1:05=A0pm, EJAY <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Oct 21, 12:52=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
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> > On Oct 21, 12:30 pm, [email protected] wrote:
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> > > On Oct 21, 12:03 pm, [email protected] wrote:
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> > > > =A0 An interesting position after White's 26th move. Anand is a paw=
n
> > > > ahead, but his pieces have very limited scope while Kramnik's are
> > > > nicely posted in advanced positions. It will be interesting to see =
if
> > > > and how Anand extricates himself, or how Kramnik capitalizes on his
> > > > greater mobility.
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> > > > =A0http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html
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> > > =A0 Kramnik sacrificed a second pawn for reasons not clear to me, but
> > > after 34.Nf2! Fritz8 indicates Anand has a winning position (about
> > > +2.50).
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> > =A0 And now I think Kramnik's definitely busted. After 39.f6! Fritz8
> > rates the position at about +4.00, i.e. winning for Anand. Instead of
> > sitting on his 2-pawn advantage and trying to simplify into an
> > endgame, Anand has conjured up a major kingside attack, and this with
> > only a rook, knight, and bishop against rook and two knights. This is
> > exciting chess!
>
> I clearly prefer Anand's position after move 41. Up two pawns with a
> passed pawn that will tie up Kramnik's defense.Anand also has a
> centralized knight and a couple of diagonals to choose from for his
> bishop. I suspect Kramnik will try to swap off the bishop.I believe
> Anand will be able to force a winning endgame position soon.
I don't understand why Anand played 41.fxg7 rather than 41.Rxg7+;
after 41...Ke6 42.Ng5+ Kxe5 43.f7 Rf8 44.Nxh7 Rxf7 45.Rxf7 he would
have been up a whole rook. However, the text should still be good
enough to win, especially if now after Kramnik's 41...Kg8 he plays
42.Rd3!
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 10:05:24
From: EJAY
Subject: Re: Anand-Kramnik game 6
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On Oct 21, 12:52=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 21, 12:30 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On Oct 21, 12:03 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > =A0 An interesting position after White's 26th move. Anand is a pawn
> > > ahead, but his pieces have very limited scope while Kramnik's are
> > > nicely posted in advanced positions. It will be interesting to see if
> > > and how Anand extricates himself, or how Kramnik capitalizes on his
> > > greater mobility.
>
> > > =A0http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html
>
> > =A0 Kramnik sacrificed a second pawn for reasons not clear to me, but
> > after 34.Nf2! Fritz8 indicates Anand has a winning position (about
> > +2.50).
>
> =A0 And now I think Kramnik's definitely busted. After 39.f6! Fritz8
> rates the position at about +4.00, i.e. winning for Anand. Instead of
> sitting on his 2-pawn advantage and trying to simplify into an
> endgame, Anand has conjured up a major kingside attack, and this with
> only a rook, knight, and bishop against rook and two knights. This is
> exciting chess!
I clearly prefer Anand's position after move 41. Up two pawns with a
passed pawn that will tie up Kramnik's defense.Anand also has a
centralized knight and a couple of diagonals to choose from for his
bishop. I suspect Kramnik will try to swap off the bishop.I believe
Anand will be able to force a winning endgame position soon.
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 13:14:37
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Anand-Kramnik game 6
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Here's the moves to date. Analysis by SP. pi
Anand, V. (2783) - Kramnik, V. (2772)
World Championship, Bonn
Game 6
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 Kramnik employs the Nimzo Indian.
4. Qc2 d5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 6.Nf3 Qf5 7.Qb3 Nc6 8.Bd2 So far, these are all book
moves. The common move here is 8...0-0
8...0-0 9.h3 I have not seen this move before. It does not seem to be too
dangerous. I think it is more to gain an edge psychologically. Kramnik is
now taking his time after moving quite rapidly until now.
9...b6 With this move, Black has a few options to develop his light color
Bishop (b7 or a6) based on how his opponent will develop his f1 Bishop.
White has a potentially interesting plan with 10.g4, eventually castling on
the Queenside and launch an attack on the Kingside. However, I am not sure
if it is wise to play in risky fashion when up by 2 points. On the hand, if
he succeeds, the match is basically over.
10.g4 Yes, he is going for it! A very brave Anand!
10...Qa5 White has a variety of moves here such as 11.g5, 11.O-O-O, 11.e4,
and even 11.Rc1. I like 11.g5 best among the choices. 11. g5 Nd7 12. O-O-O
+= Anand is spending a lot of time on this move. This is one of a few times
where he is actually behind on time, about 10 minutes right now. Black's
plan will depend on what White does.
11.Rc1 This is a tactical move. The threat is a3. Once the Bishop is
removed, Black faces a potential double discovery. One way to solve this
problem is to play 11...Bb7.
11...Bb7 Well, I still like pushing g5. Even though Anand is playing
aggressively so far, he is thinking things through very carefully on the
board. He is down by about 20 minutes on the clock. Kramnik has around 98-99
minutes and Anand has about 77-78 minutes.
12.a3 Now Black has to play 12...Bc3 13.Bxc3 Qd5 14.Qxd5 += Moving the
Bishop away is very bad for Black due to the discovery.
12...Bxc3 13.Bxc3 Qd5 14.Qxd5 Just as I expected. Black can recapture with
either exd5 or Nxd5. It is a matter of preference.
14...Nxd5 White must play 15.Bd2 to keep the Bishop pair. This is a very
comfortable position for White. He is in no danger to lose this game. He has
no risk trying to squeeze out the position.
15.Bd2 From the look of this position, I do not see a high chance for a
decisive result.
15...Nf6 The idea of this move is simple. Black does not want to allow
White to play e4.
16.Rg1 The only problem for Black is the c7 pawn. Once Black puts a Rook on
c8, the Knight on c6 can freely move away.
16...Rac8 Now that White cannot play e4, e3 is needed eventually to protect
the d4 pawn and allows the Knight on f3 to do other things. A small problem
with that is it would leave the Knight on f3 unprotected. Therefore, it
would be logical to put his f1 Bishop on g2.
17.Bg2 I think it is important for Black to move his Knight on c6 away to
possibly e7 to get out of any potential pin now that White already played
Bg2.
17...Ne7 Black still has to solve the c7 pawn problem. White can attempt to
stop it from advancing to c5 with 18.Bb4. However, Black can probably do it
anyway with 18... c5 19. dxc5 Rfd8 = . If Black play 18...Nfd5 then 19.Ne5
+=
18.Bb4 c5 19.dxc5 I think the strongest move to give Black a chance to
equalize is 19...Rfd8. All other options would allow White to maintain an
edge. The time is now about equal for both players at around 59-60 minutes.
Kramnik has to be very careful. There is little chance that he can win this
game but he must be very careful not to lose and basically put this match
out of reach.
19... Rfd8 Kramnik found the strongest reply. A logical continuation for
White is 20.Ne5 Bxg2 21.Rxg2 Nc6 22.Nxc6 Rxc6 +=
20.Ne5 Bxg2 21.Rxg2 Now Kramnik faces a few choices: 21...a5, 21...Nc6,
21...bxc5, 21...Nfd5 . Which one will give Black the best path to equalize?
21... a5 22. Bd2 Rd5 23. Nd3 bxc5 24. Rc4 += . I briefly looked at all
lines and White maintains an advantage in all of them.
21...bxc5 Let's examine one posibility 22.Bxc5 Ne4 23.b4 Ng6 24.Nd3+= White
is basically playing for 2 results. With Black's best play, he can only hope
for a draw.
22.. Rxc5 Ne4 23.Rxc8 Rxc8 Black is down a pawn but his White's Rook is
temporarily out of play. White is still better.
24.Nd3 Nd5 Black will have his work cut out to draw this game . Either
25.Bd2 or 25.g5 is good.
25.Bd2 Black has a couple interesting moves here. One is 25...Rc2 26.Bc1 f5
+= and the other is 25...Nb6 with the idea of going to c4.
25...Rc2 f5 White has a few reasonable responses. 26.Kd1, 26.gxf5 or 26.Rg1.
White is better in all three lines.
27.Kd1 Rc8 28.f3 Nd6 White is still working on getting his Rook active. If
he is able to do that, he will have good chances to score a full point. It
is obviously not a simple task.
29.Ke1 An unusual move in this position but it does not do any harm to his
position. 29.Rg1 is more logical to me.
29... a5 30.e3 e5 This is dangerous as Black is about to sacrifice another
pawn. 30...a5 is safer for Black.
31.gxf5 e4 32.fxe4 Nxe4 33.Bd2 a4 White can slowly unlock his position and
capitalize on the material advantage with 34.Nf2 Nd6 35.Ke2 +/- . Even
though it is not an easy task, White has chances to win this endgame.
34.Nf2 Nd6 Kramnik and his team must be scratching their heads. He is being
outplayed in complicated positions which typically favor Anand and he is
also being outplayed by Anand in a dull and quiet position which supposed to
favor Kramnik. They have to figure things out quickly as we are at the half
way point of this very short match.
35.Rg4 Nc4 Kramnik chose not to win back one pawn with Nxf5. He instead
chose to go after the b2 pawn. 36.Nd1 would give White a serious advantage.
36.e4 Nf6 37.Rg3 Nxb2 I think a better move is 37..Nxe4 38.Nxe4 Re8
38.e5 Nd5 And now 39.f6 is coming. Kramnik is in serious trouble.
38...offers more resistance but it is still extremely very difficult to
hold.
39.f6 +- It looks like the score may be 4.5-1.5 after this game. The
connected passed pawns are just too much for Black to handle. This is why I
think Kramnik should have played 35...Nxf5.
39...Kf7 40.Ne4 Nc4 Next will be 41.Rxg7+ and the game is about over
41...Ke6 42. Ng5+ Kxe5 43. f7 Rf8 44. Nxh7 +-
41.fxg7 Not as decisive as 41.Rxg7+ but still winning. Rg8 42. Nd6+ Nxd6 43.
exd6 Ke6 44. Bh6 Kxd6 45. Rf3 +-
41...Kg8 Now Anand can close it out with 42.Rd3. All other lines will just
prolong things.
42.
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"EJAY" <[email protected] > wrote in message
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On Oct 21, 12:52 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 21, 12:30 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On Oct 21, 12:03 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > An interesting position after White's 26th move. Anand is a pawn
> > > ahead, but his pieces have very limited scope while Kramnik's are
> > > nicely posted in advanced positions. It will be interesting to see if
> > > and how Anand extricates himself, or how Kramnik capitalizes on his
> > > greater mobility.
>
> > > http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html
>
> > Kramnik sacrificed a second pawn for reasons not clear to me, but
> > after 34.Nf2! Fritz8 indicates Anand has a winning position (about
> > +2.50).
>
> And now I think Kramnik's definitely busted. After 39.f6! Fritz8
> rates the position at about +4.00, i.e. winning for Anand. Instead of
> sitting on his 2-pawn advantage and trying to simplify into an
> endgame, Anand has conjured up a major kingside attack, and this with
> only a rook, knight, and bishop against rook and two knights. This is
> exciting chess!
I clearly prefer Anand's position after move 41. Up two pawns with a
passed pawn that will tie up Kramnik's defense.Anand also has a
centralized knight and a couple of diagonals to choose from for his
bishop. I suspect Kramnik will try to swap off the bishop.I believe
Anand will be able to force a winning endgame position soon.
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 09:52:27
From:
Subject: Re: Anand-Kramnik game 6
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On Oct 21, 12:30 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 21, 12:03 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > An interesting position after White's 26th move. Anand is a pawn
> > ahead, but his pieces have very limited scope while Kramnik's are
> > nicely posted in advanced positions. It will be interesting to see if
> > and how Anand extricates himself, or how Kramnik capitalizes on his
> > greater mobility.
>
> > http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html
>
> Kramnik sacrificed a second pawn for reasons not clear to me, but
> after 34.Nf2! Fritz8 indicates Anand has a winning position (about
> +2.50).
And now I think Kramnik's definitely busted. After 39.f6! Fritz8
rates the position at about +4.00, i.e. winning for Anand. Instead of
sitting on his 2-pawn advantage and trying to simplify into an
endgame, Anand has conjured up a major kingside attack, and this with
only a rook, knight, and bishop against rook and two knights. This is
exciting chess!
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 09:30:01
From:
Subject: Re: Anand-Kramnik game 6
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On Oct 21, 12:03=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> =A0 An interesting position after White's 26th move. Anand is a pawn
> ahead, but his pieces have very limited scope while Kramnik's are
> nicely posted in advanced positions. It will be interesting to see if
> and how Anand extricates himself, or how Kramnik capitalizes on his
> greater mobility.
>
> =A0http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html
Kramnik sacrificed a second pawn for reasons not clear to me, but
after 34.Nf2! Fritz8 indicates Anand has a winning position (about
+2.50).
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