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Date: 23 Oct 2008 13:20:53
From:
Subject: Clever Claymation Chess Video
rec.games.chess readers should get a kick out of this:

http://tinyurl.com/6j79jh

Unlike many chess-related videos, this one appears to depict a game
actually played according to the rules, with a modicum of skill. As
far as I can make out, the moves are:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
O 8. O-O d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13.
Bd1 Bh3 14. Qxa6 Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3#

Which, with the possible exception of the last two moves, matches
Roesch-Schlage, Hamburg Hauptturnier-B, 1910.




 
Date: 25 Oct 2008 08:38:17
From:
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Oct 24, 6:54=A0pm, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> There has been far more effort put in the chess animation than in an
> episode of Mio Maohttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQCFRpZHyRlYbut Mio
> Mao is much =A0much funnier. The scriptwriter for the Schlage game has
> to be thrown into space.

He was, by the Vogons, but Zaphod Beeblebrox happened to be passing
in his Infinite Improbability Drive Spaceship, and picked him up.


  
Date: 25 Oct 2008 08:54:43
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:38:17 -0700 (PDT), [email protected]
wrote:


> He was, by the Vogons, but Zaphod Beeblebrox happened to be passing
>in his Infinite Improbability Drive Spaceship, and picked him up.

While playing chess with Nick Bourbaki?


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 15:54:23
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
There has been far more effort put in the chess animation than in an
episode of Mio Mao http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QCFRpZHyRlY but Mio
Mao is much much funnier. The scriptwriter for the Schlage game has
to be thrown into space.


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 15:11:26
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
Willi Schlage also became the most unlikely person ever featured on a
stamp. For Chad, I believe.


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 12:03:18
From:
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Oct 24, 6:31=A0am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Oct 23, 9:20 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > =A0 rec.games.chess readers should get a kick out of this:
>
> > =A0http://tinyurl.com/6j79jh
>
> > =A0 Unlike many chess-related videos, this one appears to depict a game
> > actually played according to the rules, with a modicum of skill. As
> > far as I can make out, the moves are:
>
> > 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
> > O 8. O-O d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13.
> > Bd1 Bh3 14. Qxa6 Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3#
>
> > =A0 Which, with the possible exception of the last two moves, matches
> > Roesch-Schlage, Hamburg Hauptturnier-B, 1910.
>
> It's that annoying Space Odyssey game again. The claymation was a huge
> waste of time. Unfunny. Uninteresting. The people who did should
> really hang their clay-filled heads with shame. What was the point? A
> total waste of time and space.

Ah, yes, checking Bob Basalla's "Chess In the Movies" (reviewed
here: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review533.pdf), I see that the
Roesch-Schlage game was indeed featured in Kubrick's "2001." Basalla
spends about a page and a half on the film, much more than most
entries in his book.
Apparently many people have tried to read a lot of symbolism into
Kubrick's choice of game and its presentation in the film. For
example, the computer HAL announces its 15th move as "queen to bishop
3," which in descriptive notation is incorrect =97 it should be "queen
to bishop 6." Some have claimed this mistake foreshadows HAL's later
"mental breakdown." Concerning Schlage, the person actually playing
Black in the original game, some point out that he later became
Reichstrainer for the Greater German Chess Federation, and thus his
name foreshadows the evil that HAL later does.


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 09:18:13
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Oct 23, 3:20=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> =A0 rec.games.chess readers should get a kick out of this:
>
> =A0http://tinyurl.com/6j79jh
>
> =A0 Unlike many chess-related videos, this one appears to depict a game
> actually played according to the rules, with a modicum of skill. As
> far as I can make out, the moves are:
>
> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
> O 8. O-O d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13.
> Bd1 Bh3 14. Qxa6 Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3#
>
> =A0 Which, with the possible exception of the last two moves, matches
> Roesch-Schlage, Hamburg Hauptturnier-B, 1910.


Here is an interesting video.
http://www.videojug.com/film/making-a-chess-board-the-quick-and-easy-way-2


  
Date: 24 Oct 2008 11:42:09
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:18:13 -0700 (PDT), Rob <[email protected] >
wrote:


>Here is an interesting video.
>http://www.videojug.com/film/making-a-chess-board-the-quick-and-easy-way-2

The simple solutions are often the most effective and the easiest to
miss. Good catch, Rob.


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 17:18:42
From: Tobias Heidelmann
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
[email protected] schrieb:
> rec.games.chess readers should get a kick out of this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6j79jh
>
> Unlike many chess-related videos, this one appears to depict a game
> actually played according to the rules, with a modicum of skill. As
> far as I can make out, the moves are:
>
> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
> O 8. O-O d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13.
> Bd1 Bh3 14. Qxa6 Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3#
>
> Which, with the possible exception of the last two moves, matches
> Roesch-Schlage, Hamburg Hauptturnier-B, 1910.
nicely done. reminds me of the old battle-chess for the amiga. i
particularly liked the shark.


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 07:40:30
From:
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Oct 24, 10:35=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> I played over the game, thanks to Taylor Kingston, and I have been
> trying to figure out where White went wrong. Do you know?
>
> [Event "Hamburg Hauptturnier-B"]
> [Site "?"]
> [Date "1910.??.??"]
> [Round "?"]
> [White "Roesch"]
> [Black "Schlage"]
> [Result "0-1"]
> [ECO "C86"]
> [PlyCount "32"]
>
> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
> O 8. O-O
> d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13. Bd1 Bh3 14.
> Qxa6
> Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3# 0-1


I believe White is busted after 12.Qxa8??. Instead 12.d4 is
necessary.


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 07:35:19
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
I played over the game, thanks to Taylor Kingston, and I have been
trying to figure out where White went wrong. Do you know?

[Event "Hamburg Hauptturnier-B"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1910.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Roesch"]
[Black "Schlage"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C86"]
[PlyCount "32"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
O 8. O-O
d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13. Bd1 Bh3 14.
Qxa6
Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3# 0-1

Sam Sloan


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 07:25:05
From:
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Oct 24, 6:31=A0am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Oct 23, 9:20 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > =A0 rec.games.chess readers should get a kick out of this:
>
> > =A0http://tinyurl.com/6j79jh
>
> > =A0 Unlike many chess-related videos, this one appears to depict a game
> > actually played according to the rules, with a modicum of skill. As
> > far as I can make out, the moves are:
>
> > 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
> > O 8. O-O d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13.
> > Bd1 Bh3 14. Qxa6 Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3#
>
> > =A0 Which, with the possible exception of the last two moves, matches
> > Roesch-Schlage, Hamburg Hauptturnier-B, 1910.
>
> It's that annoying Space Odyssey game again.

Oh, was this same game depicted in "2001; A Space Odyssey"?

> The claymation was a huge
> waste of time. Unfunny. Uninteresting. The people who did should
> really hang their clay-filled heads with shame. What was the point? A
> total waste of time and space.

We must agree to differ on that. I liked it.



  
Date: 24 Oct 2008 11:50:45
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]m...
On Oct 24, 6:31 am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Oct 23, 9:20 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > rec.games.chess readers should get a kick out of this:
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/6j79jh
>
> > Unlike many chess-related videos, this one appears to depict a game
> > actually played according to the rules, with a modicum of skill. As
> > far as I can make out, the moves are:
>
> > 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
> > O 8. O-O d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13.
> > Bd1 Bh3 14. Qxa6 Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3#
>
> > Which, with the possible exception of the last two moves, matches
> > Roesch-Schlage, Hamburg Hauptturnier-B, 1910.
>
> It's that annoying Space Odyssey game again.

Oh, was this same game depicted in "2001; A Space Odyssey"?

> The claymation was a huge
> waste of time. Unfunny. Uninteresting. The people who did should
> really hang their clay-filled heads with shame. What was the point? A
> total waste of time and space.

We must agree to differ on that. I liked it.

**Go and stand by the hatch-door, Taylor :)

Phil




 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 03:31:12
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
On Oct 23, 9:20 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> rec.games.chess readers should get a kick out of this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6j79jh
>
> Unlike many chess-related videos, this one appears to depict a game
> actually played according to the rules, with a modicum of skill. As
> far as I can make out, the moves are:
>
> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. Qe2 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-
> O 8. O-O d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nf4 11. Qe4 Nxe5 12. Qxa8 Qd3 13.
> Bd1 Bh3 14. Qxa6 Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3 16. Bxf3 Nxf3#
>
> Which, with the possible exception of the last two moves, matches
> Roesch-Schlage, Hamburg Hauptturnier-B, 1910.

It's that annoying Space Odyssey game again. The claymation was a huge
waste of time. Unfunny. Uninteresting. The people who did should
really hang their clay-filled heads with shame. What was the point? A
total waste of time and space.


 
Date: 24 Oct 2008 00:26:45
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Clever Claymation Chess Video
Sir, what a great idea.

I think GetClub should design such chess board. they people will enjoy
the game better.

But GetClub is in 2-D It would be better to see pieces fighting with
each other.

My imagination is poor any one with good idea how I could put such
animation at GetClub?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html