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Date: 06 Jan 2009 12:25:50
From: Jon D'Souza-Eva
Subject: Ed Trice loses the plot!
Ed Trice has modified his dodgy "legallyownlandonmars.com" site to
launch an astonishing attack on Rob Mitchell and Edward Labate:
www.legallyownlandonmars.com

I don't know how long the site will be up as complains have been
lodged with the hosting company, so here's a screenshot:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/gallicrow/chess/legallyownlandonmars.jpg

Has Trice finally cracked?




 
Date: 14 Jan 2009 21:35:04
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Ed Trice admits to losing $21 million suit against Edward Labate
On Jan 14, 10:15=A0pm, "Jon D'Souza-Eva" <[email protected] >
wrote:
> Thewww.legallyownlandonmars.comwebsite appears to have been taken
> down. Congratulations to Rob and all the others who complained to the
> hosting company (GoDaddy.com).
>
> This is what it used to look like:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/=
gallicrow/chess/legallyownland...
>
> Not only does that buffoon Trice finally admit that the case that
> Edward Labate brought against him was real and that Trice lost it, but
> he gratuitously insults the judge who heard the case! Fortunately a
> civc-minded bystander ensured that the judge in question received a
> printout of the website within hours of Trice putting it up.

Great.
How the f@ck am I gonna buy land on Mars now?


 
Date: 14 Jan 2009 14:15:31
From: Jon D'Souza-Eva
Subject: Ed Trice admits to losing $21 million suit against Edward Labate
The www.legallyownlandonmars.com website appears to have been taken
down. Congratulations to Rob and all the others who complained to the
hosting company (GoDaddy.com).

This is what it used to look like:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/gallicrow/chess/legallyownlandonmars.jpg

Not only does that buffoon Trice finally admit that the case that
Edward Labate brought against him was real and that Trice lost it, but
he gratuitously insults the judge who heard the case! Fortunately a
civc-minded bystander ensured that the judge in question received a
printout of the website within hours of Trice putting it up.


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 17:09:03
From: Rob
Subject: Ed Trice loses his mind and threatens a sitting judge! Mitchell sets
On Jan 7, 10:33=A0am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 7, 3:36=A0am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 6, 5:50=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > But let us asses here the basis of Sloan's own intelligence. Sloan ha=
s
> > > consistently quoted this guy's site, regardless of its authenticity,
> > > as declared by a court in its judgement of 21,000,000 dollars
>
> > > The Sloan still wants to trash Rob Mitchell who he perceives as a
> > > political opponent, and someone who challenges the Sloan to ethical
> > > behaviors.
>
> > > Phil Innes
>
> > I have not quoted "this guys site". Rather I have quoted a letter
> > written by Rob Mitchell that is posted on his site. Rob had admitted
> > that he wrote the letter.
>
> WRONG! I never wrote that letter. It was composed by two other people,
> now me.
> I NEVER said I wrote the letter. It was done by the "collective" WE of
> an LLC. I had some input, but almost none when it came to the drafting
> of the document.
>
> > Also, I do not perceive Rob as a political opponent. I have stated
> > that I will support him for election.
>
> Isn't that like getting Satan's support for being elected Pope?
>
> > As to the name "Rob the Robber", that name has become so widely used
> > and accepted that he might as well stop trying to live it down and
> > take advantage of it.
>
> It's only used by you.
>
> > Rob the Robber, He's our man
> > Will he rob you, Yes he can
> > Vote for Rob the Robber
>
> Trice can't get anything right.
>
> This is something Trice posted"Hey "Rob the robber" Mitchell, try and
> con anyone out of $30,000 this week? Or do you still say you contacted
> Bobby Fischer and you tried to charge $30,000 for all of your out of
> pocket expenses? You are a lying, piece of shit "
>
> He obviously cannot read the deal memo he posted. Or is the amount
> coming from something ha hasn't posted?
>
> Look, This is all I will say and I will only say it once:
>
> We (the LLC) began to feel that ET was not presenting anything real. 4
> "memo" of understanding were produced. It was decided by other members
> of the LLC to place a financial clause in the contract. It is
> commonplace for retainers to be requested and paid. Trice agreed to
> deal memo revision #4 and signed it and the confidentiality
> agreement . He then proceeded to violate both and we (the LLC)
> terminated our association with Trice.
>
> Now for the claim we had not spoken to the potential players; I never
> said I or the LLC had. Read what the statement says. We used an
> associate to make contact. I will leave that up to him to comment or
> not to comment. Had Fischer and Karpov ever heard of the LLC, I doubt
> it. Why would they? The LLC didn't contact them directly. Contact was
> made via our intermediary.
>
> Trice made one telling comment on the phone,"I don't want anyone
> involved in this that dosen't have the vision. They need to be willing
> to do what is necessary to make this happen. If they want to be paid
> pennies up front to work instead of millions at the pay out... F_ _ _
> em! I don't want them to be a part of it"
>
> He had an idea he wanted to make a reality. He wanted others to do his
> work for him and do it without pay. We simply decided we didn't want
> to be a part of his "snake-oil side show". We wished him well and WE
> and specifically ME personally terminated our relationship.



 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 15:32:37
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
Here's another one:

Rob the Robber, he's for you
His gal sue will let you screw
Vote for Rob the Robber


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 7, 3:36=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 6, 5:50=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > But let us asses here the basis of Sloan's own intelligence. Sloan has
> > consistently quoted this guy's site, regardless of its authenticity,
> > as declared by a court in its judgement of 21,000,000 dollars
>
> > The Sloan still wants to trash Rob Mitchell who he perceives as a
> > political opponent, and someone who challenges the Sloan to ethical
> > behaviors.
>
> > Phil Innes
>


> I have not quoted "this guys site". Rather I have quoted a letter
> written by Rob Mitchell that is posted on his site. Rob had admitted
> that he wrote the letter.

WRONG! I never wrote that letter. It was composed by two other people,
now me.
I NEVER said I wrote the letter. It was done by the "collective" WE of
an LLC. I had some input, but almost none when it came to the drafting
of the document.



> Also, I do not perceive Rob as a political opponent. I have stated
> that I will support him for election.


Isn't that like getting Satan's support for being elected Pope?


> As to the name "Rob the Robber", that name has become so widely used
> and accepted that he might as well stop trying to live it down and
> take advantage of it.

It's only used by you.

> Rob the Robber, He's our man
> Will he rob you, Yes he can
> Vote for Rob the Robber

Trice can't get anything right.

This is something Trice posted"Hey "Rob the robber" Mitchell, try and
con anyone out of $30,000 this week? Or do you still say you contacted
Bobby Fischer and you tried to charge $30,000 for all of your out of
pocket expenses? You are a lying, piece of shit "

He obviously cannot read the deal memo he posted. Or is the amount
coming from something ha hasn't posted?

Look, This is all I will say and I will only say it once:

We (the LLC) began to feel that ET was not presenting anything real. 4
"memo" of understanding were produced. It was decided by other members
of the LLC to place a financial clause in the contract. It is
commonplace for retainers to be requested and paid. Trice agreed to
deal memo revision #4 and signed it and the confidentiality
agreement . He then proceeded to violate both and we (the LLC)
terminated our association with Trice.

Now for the claim we had not spoken to the potential players; I never
said I or the LLC had. Read what the statement says. We used an
associate to make contact. I will leave that up to him to comment or
not to comment. Had Fischer and Karpov ever heard of the LLC, I doubt
it. Why would they? The LLC didn't contact them directly. Contact was
made via our intermediary.

Trice made one telling comment on the phone,"I don't want anyone
involved in this that dosen't have the vision. They need to be willing
to do what is necessary to make this happen. If they want to be paid
pennies up front to work instead of millions at the pay out... F_ _ _
em! I don't want them to be a part of it"

He had an idea he wanted to make a reality. He wanted others to do his
work for him and do it without pay. We simply decided we didn't want
to be a part of his "snake-oil side show". We wished him well and WE
and specifically ME personally terminated our relationship.


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 07:18:34
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 7, 8:46=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jan 7, 4:36=A0am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 6, 5:50=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > But let us asses here the basis of Sloan's own intelligence. Sloan ha=
s
> > > consistently quoted this guy's site, regardless of its authenticity,
> > > as declared by a court in its judgement of 21,000,000 dollars
>
> > > The Sloan still wants to trash Rob Mitchell who he perceives as a
> > > political opponent, and someone who challenges the Sloan to ethical
> > > behaviors.
>
> > > Phil Innes
>
> > I have not quoted "this guys site". Rather I have quoted a letter
> > written by Rob Mitchell that is posted on his site.
>
> And there you perceive the central honesty of our Sam. Not quoting the
> site, he says, but something on the site. :)))
>
> > Rob had admitted
> > that he wrote the letter.
>
> He admitted more than that - a draft agreement, no? And also an NDA
> binding both parties?

Mr. Trice waited a year before publicizing the Chess Masterminds
letter. He stated on his blog he waited a year to allow the expiration
of the NDA.



 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 06:13:00
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
The letter, signed by Rob the Robber, is here. It states that Rob is
in contact with Bobby Fischer in Iceland, and Fischer has agreed to
play a chess match that will be videotaped by Rob. Rob demands to be
paid $35,000 in front money for setting up the match and the video
taping.

It is just such a scam that would lure in anybody not familiar with
Fischer.

I wonder how many more scams like this have been perpetrated by Rob
the Robber.

Here is an exact quote from your letter:

http://www.gothicchess.com/images/blog/CMM_rev_3.jpg

7. CMM will be paid a one-time $35,000 stipend as an initial infusion
of capital to be used for the general operational budget of the
current project.

8. CMM, in good faith, will be responsible for obtaining initial
player contracts and maintaining player participation but will not be
held liable if the participants, for whatever reason, failed to agree
of perform. The players who have initially agreed to participate are
Mr. Robert James Fischer and Mr. Anatoly Karpov. In case of default by
the above named participant, alternate players will be sought by CMM
and agreed upon by GCF.

Sam Sloan


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 06:01:29
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 7, 4:36=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 6, 5:50=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > But let us asses here the basis of Sloan's own intelligence. Sloan has
> > consistently quoted this guy's site, regardless of its authenticity,
> > as declared by a court in its judgement of 21,000,000 dollars
>
> > The Sloan still wants to trash Rob Mitchell who he perceives as a
> > political opponent, and someone who challenges the Sloan to ethical
> > behaviors.
>
> > Phil Innes
>
> I have not quoted "this guys site". Rather I have quoted a letter
> written by Rob Mitchell that is posted on his site. Rob had admitted
> that he wrote the letter.
>
> Also, I do not perceive Rob as a political opponent. I have stated
> that I will support him for election.
>
> As to the name "Rob the Robber", that name has become so widely used
> and accepted that he might as well stop trying to live it down and
> take advantage of it.
>
> Rob the Robber, He's our man
> Will he rob you, Yes he can
> Vote for Rob the Robber

Another version

Rob the Robber. He's Your Man
He Will Rob You, If He Can
Vote for Rob the Robber


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 05:46:53
From:
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 7, 4:36=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 6, 5:50=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > But let us asses here the basis of Sloan's own intelligence. Sloan has
> > consistently quoted this guy's site, regardless of its authenticity,
> > as declared by a court in its judgement of 21,000,000 dollars
>
> > The Sloan still wants to trash Rob Mitchell who he perceives as a
> > political opponent, and someone who challenges the Sloan to ethical
> > behaviors.
>
> > Phil Innes
>
> I have not quoted "this guys site". Rather I have quoted a letter
> written by Rob Mitchell that is posted on his site.

And there you perceive the central honesty of our Sam. Not quoting the
site, he says, but something on the site. :)))


> Rob had admitted
> that he wrote the letter.

He admitted more than that - a draft agreement, no? And also an NDA
binding both parties?

> Also, I do not perceive Rob as a political opponent. I have stated
> that I will support him for election.

I wonder if he welcomes or accepts such support - after all, someone
characterizing you as a robber may not be thought to be exactly
supportive.

> As to the name "Rob the Robber", that name has become so widely used
> and accepted

Is there a term for 'complete hyperbole'? An exaggeration so great it
has a desperate quality to it. Isn't the truth that this is a lie?
That only Sam Sloan uses the term?

> that he might as well stop trying to live it down and
> take advantage of it.
>
> Rob the Robber, He's our man
> Will he rob you, Yes he can
> Vote for Rob the Robber

How pregnant with litigious possibility - but that is not my business.
Instead I think its time for a little candid truth telling - so look
out for the Obsessed?! thread.

Phil Innes


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 01:36:26
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 6, 5:50=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:

> But let us asses here the basis of Sloan's own intelligence. Sloan has
> consistently quoted this guy's site, regardless of its authenticity,
> as declared by a court in its judgement of 21,000,000 dollars
>
> The Sloan still wants to trash Rob Mitchell who he perceives as a
> political opponent, and someone who challenges the Sloan to ethical
> behaviors.
>
> Phil Innes

I have not quoted "this guys site". Rather I have quoted a letter
written by Rob Mitchell that is posted on his site. Rob had admitted
that he wrote the letter.

Also, I do not perceive Rob as a political opponent. I have stated
that I will support him for election.

As to the name "Rob the Robber", that name has become so widely used
and accepted that he might as well stop trying to live it down and
take advantage of it.

Rob the Robber, He's our man
Will he rob you, Yes he can
Vote for Rob the Robber


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 18:12:29
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 6, 3:25=A0pm, "Jon D'Souza-Eva" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Ed Trice has modified his dodgy "legallyownlandonmars.com" site to
> launch an astonishing attack on Rob Mitchell and Edward Labate:www.legall=
yownlandonmars.com
>
> I don't know how long the site will be up as complains have been
> lodged with the hosting company, so here's a screenshot:http://i19.photob=
ucket.com/albums/b177/gallicrow/chess/legallyownland...
>
> Has Trice finally cracked?

I would have to say the psychopath has finally cracked. It was only a
matter of time.

Be careful what you say, he will "sue" all of us for pointing out his
countless lies and scams.



 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 15:22:13
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 6, 5:50=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:

> The Sloan is not a credible truth-teller, in my opinion, on any of
> these matters - he is someone despite 8,000+ negative messages about
> Susan Polgar,including 6 years before she ran for USCF office, who
> says he is not obsessed with her.
>
> Right.
>
> Phil Innes

This is not true at all. For the 20 years before she ran for election
I consistently supported Susan Polgar. I never wrote even one word
against her.

If I did not have something good to say about her, I just remained
silent.

It was only after I was elected to the board in July 2006 that, out of
the blue, she and Truong started attacking me. I did not know, and
still do not know, what prompted her attacks on me because, until
then, I had thought that we were on the best of terms.

Sam Sloan


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 14:50:25
From:
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 6, 4:07=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 6, 3:25=A0pm, "Jon D'Souza-Eva" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ed Trice has modified his dodgy "legallyownlandonmars.com" site to
> > launch an astonishing attack on Rob Mitchell and Edward Labate:www.lega=
llyownlandonmars.com
>
> > I don't know how long the site will be up as complains have been
> > lodged with the hosting company, so here's a screenshot:http://i19.phot=
obucket.com/albums/b177/gallicrow/chess/legallyownland...
>
> > Has Trice finally cracked?
>
> Goodness. It is just terrible, awful what Ed Trice who, by his own
> admission, is one of the world's greatest computer programmers, has to
> say about our Main Man, "Rob the Robber".
>
> Most of what Trice says is so obscene it cannot be posted here, but
> here is a brief quote:

But let us asses here the basis of Sloan's own intelligence. Sloan has
consistently quoted this guy's site, regardless of its authenticity,
as declared by a court in its judgement of

21,000,000 dollars

The Sloan still wants to trash Rob Mitchell who he perceives as a
political opponent, and someone who challenges the Sloan to ethical
behaviors.

The Sloan is not a credible truth-teller, in my opinion, on any of
these matters - he is someone despite 8,000+ negative messages about
Susan Polgar,including 6 years before she ran for USCF office, who
says he is not obsessed with her.

Right.

Phil Innes


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 13:26:59
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses his mind? Admits to losing 21 million suit and
On Jan 6, 2:56=A0pm, "Jon D'Souza-Eva" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Note that Trice has acknowledged that the judgement that Edward Labate
> won against him is for real and insults the judge, Labate's lawyer and
> Labate himself! Previously Trice has claimed that the whole thing is a
> complete fabrication (for example here:http://tinyurl.com/8csems)

Dosen't he not only admit the judgement is real but also he accuses a
sitting judge of conspiracy? He even libels the judge by claiming
publicly the judge is under inditement for conspiracy? I guess if you
are digging a hole you may as well make it a deep one.


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 13:07:36
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
On Jan 6, 3:25=A0pm, "Jon D'Souza-Eva" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Ed Trice has modified his dodgy "legallyownlandonmars.com" site to
> launch an astonishing attack on Rob Mitchell and Edward Labate:www.legall=
yownlandonmars.com
>
> I don't know how long the site will be up as complains have been
> lodged with the hosting company, so here's a screenshot:http://i19.photob=
ucket.com/albums/b177/gallicrow/chess/legallyownland...
>
> Has Trice finally cracked?

Goodness. It is just terrible, awful what Ed Trice who, by his own
admission, is one of the world's greatest computer programmers, has to
say about our Main Man, "Rob the Robber".

Most of what Trice says is so obscene it cannot be posted here, but
here is a brief quote:

"Hey "Rob the robber" Mitchell, try and con anyone out of $30,000 this
week? Or do you still say you contacted Bobby Fischer and you tried to
charge $30,000 for all of your out of pocket expenses?"

Please look back about one year ago, when Bobby was still alive, and
see where Rob stated that Ed Trice had withdrawn the charge about the
$35,000.


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 12:56:49
From: Jon D'Souza-Eva
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
Note that Trice has acknowledged that the judgement that Edward Labate
won against him is for real and insults the judge, Labate's lawyer and
Labate himself! Previously Trice has claimed that the whole thing is a
complete fabrication (for example here: http://tinyurl.com/8csems)


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 12:38:00
From: Jon D'Souza-Eva
Subject: Re: Ed Trice loses the plot!
And another thing - Ed Trice has always claimed that www.legallyownlandonmars.com
is some sort of prototype and is not intended to be used to
fraudulently take money from people. But if you click on the link
entitled "Quick Inexpensive Purchase" at the top of the page, you get
taken to a Paypal shopping cart which will most definitely take money
from you if you complete the transaction.