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Date: 09 May 2008 22:05:52
From: Sanny
Subject: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
Say, I want to buy a Chess Program where will I search for them?

I am asking this Question because I want to know where do people go to
buy Chess Programs. Then I will Sell GetClub Chess over all those
places.

I went to amazon.com and found lots Chess Program were sold there. I
wanted to sell GetClub Chess. But it asked me to search items from a
list and I found all Chess Programs Listed there but GetClub Chess was
not listed. So I was unable to sell GetClub Chess at Amazon.com.

How can I sell a new Product at Amazon.com? As it only asks me to sell
products already listed on their site.

I would like to sell it at Ebay.com but I could not understand how to
sell GetClub Chess there.

Can Someone give me list of Sites which sell Chess Programs. So that I
too sell my GetClub Chess over those places.

I will give 10% commision to the site selling my Chess Program.

Which are the Top Sites where I should sell the GetClub Chess?

Because till now I was interested in developing the Program. Now I
want to get Profit by selling it. My Target is to sell atleast 1000
copies a month.

Please suggest all places and techniques that will help me sell
GetClub Program to new Customers.

Bye
Sanny




 
Date: 14 May 2008 09:02:25
From:
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
On May 13, 4:58=A0pm, "fa03e" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer! =A0I found a good description of UCI herehttp://en=
.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Chess_Interface
> (I thought it had something to do with Univ. Cal. Irvine :-)
>
> In short, is this what I'll have to install?
> First install either a UCI interface Arena or install Winboard
> Then install one of the free chess programs from herehttp://wbec-ridderker=
k.nl/html/lastupdates.htm
>
> Is this how most chess programs are designed today by using either UCI or
> Winboard?

Yep, that's pretty much it. Winboard and Arena are chess interfaces
(GUIs), and they can use any chess engine that supports them. Most
engines are one or the other, some are both, and some are neither
(they typically come with their own custom GUI).

The only thing to be careful of is that there are two Winboard
versions, 1 and 2. Most engines/interfaces only support one version.
Chessmaster, for instance, only supports Winboard v1 engines, so a lot
of newer engines won't work on it if they only support v2.

jm


  
Date: 15 May 2008 21:33:13
From: Morten Skarstad
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
[email protected] skrev:
>> In short, is this what I'll have to install?
>> First install either a UCI interface Arena or install Winboard
>> Then install one of the free chess programs from herehttp://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/lastupdates.htm

> Yep, that's pretty much it. Winboard and Arena are chess interfaces
> (GUIs), and they can use any chess engine that supports them. Most
> engines are one or the other, some are both, and some are neither
> (they typically come with their own custom GUI).

Also note that the "stable" (i.e. non-beta) versions of Arena (such as
1.1) comes bundled with a couple of free UCI engines, such as Spike or SOS.


 
Date: 13 May 2008 15:55:30
From:
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
On May 13, 1:50=A0pm, "fa03e" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Thank you for the info! =A0Do I have to join Winboard or UCI to use these
> chess programs? =A0Anything that can run as stand-alone on my own PC, so I=
can
> play against it without connecting somewhere to the internet?

Winboard and Arena (for UCI) are free programs that are standalone.

You can get Winboard here:
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/winboard/winboard-4_2_7b.exe

You can read all about Winboard from its original creator here:
http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html

You can get Arena here:
http://www.playwitharena.com/

Enjoy!

jm


  
Date: 13 May 2008 23:58:20
From: fa03e
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
Thanks for the pointer! I found a good description of UCI here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Chess_Interface
(I thought it had something to do with Univ. Cal. Irvine :-)

In short, is this what I'll have to install?
First install either a UCI interface Arena or install Winboard
Then install one of the free chess programs from here
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/lastupdates.htm

Is this how most chess programs are designed today by using either UCI or
Winboard?

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]m...
On May 13, 1:50 pm, "fa03e" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Thank you for the info! Do I have to join Winboard or UCI to use these
> chess programs? Anything that can run as stand-alone on my own PC, so I
can
> play against it without connecting somewhere to the internet?

Winboard and Arena (for UCI) are free programs that are standalone.

You can get Winboard here:
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/winboard/winboard-4_2_7b.exe

You can read all about Winboard from its original creator here:
http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html

You can get Arena here:
http://www.playwitharena.com/

Enjoy!

jm




 
Date: 13 May 2008 07:41:01
From: Eric Hallsworth
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
In article <[email protected]
s.com >, [email protected] writes
>On May 12, 11:36 am, "fa03el" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You mentioned about free chess programs.  Can you please suggest a couple of
>> free, strong chess programs, about expert level or higher, that can play
>> blitz chess on windows xp or 2000?  Thanks.
>
>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/lastupdates.htm
>
>Not every engine on this site can play at expert level. Others can
>play stronger, but can't be "dumbed down" to expert level.
>
>Go to this site to see their approximate ratings:
>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed14.htm
>
>Go here if you have any specific questions about any Winboard engines:
>http://wbforum.vpittlik.org/
>
>All of the above is for Winboard engines. There is another chess
>engine communication protocol called UCI, which I am not very familiar
>with. A little bit of googling should give you similar sites as the
>ones above, but dedicated to UCI engines.
>
>jm

Quite a few of the engines at the Ridderkerk site are also UCI - Fruit,
Toga, Spike to name 3 strong ones. A UCI engine will run under the Arena
interface as well as under one of the ChessBase commercial interfaces

Cheers - Eric

--
With best wishes from Eric Hallsworth
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Publisher of Selective Search, the UK's only Computer Chess Magazine, est. 1985.
Computer Chess web pages+photos... http://www.elhchess.demon.co.uk


 
Date: 12 May 2008 11:46:10
From:
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
On May 12, 11:36=A0am, "fa03el" <[email protected] > wrote:
> You mentioned about free chess programs. =A0Can you please suggest a coupl=
e of
> free, strong chess programs, about expert level or higher, that can play
> blitz chess on windows xp or 2000? =A0Thanks.

http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/lastupdates.htm

Not every engine on this site can play at expert level. Others can
play stronger, but can't be "dumbed down" to expert level.

Go to this site to see their approximate ratings:
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed14.htm

Go here if you have any specific questions about any Winboard engines:
http://wbforum.vpittlik.org/

All of the above is for Winboard engines. There is another chess
engine communication protocol called UCI, which I am not very familiar
with. A little bit of googling should give you similar sites as the
ones above, but dedicated to UCI engines.

jm


  
Date: 13 May 2008 20:50:11
From: fa03e
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
Thank you for the info! Do I have to join Winboard or UCI to use these
chess programs? Anything that can run as stand-alone on my own PC, so I can
play against it without connecting somewhere to the internet?

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]m...
On May 12, 11:36 am, "fa03el" <[email protected] > wrote:
> You mentioned about free chess programs. Can you please suggest a couple
of
> free, strong chess programs, about expert level or higher, that can play
> blitz chess on windows xp or 2000? Thanks.

http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/lastupdates.htm

Not every engine on this site can play at expert level. Others can
play stronger, but can't be "dumbed down" to expert level.

Go to this site to see their approximate ratings:
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed14.htm

Go here if you have any specific questions about any Winboard engines:
http://wbforum.vpittlik.org/

All of the above is for Winboard engines. There is another chess
engine communication protocol called UCI, which I am not very familiar
with. A little bit of googling should give you similar sites as the
ones above, but dedicated to UCI engines.

jm




 
Date: 12 May 2008 11:18:43
From:
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
On May 9, 10:05=A0pm, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> Say, I want to buy a Chess Program where will I search for them?
>
> I am asking this Question because I want to know where do people go to
> buy Chess Programs. Then I will Sell GetClub Chess over all those
> places.
>
> I went to amazon.com and found lots Chess Program were sold there. I
> wanted to sell GetClub Chess. But it asked me to search items from a
> list and I found all Chess Programs Listed there but GetClub Chess was
> not listed. So I was unable to sell GetClub Chess at Amazon.com.
>
> How can I sell a new Product at Amazon.com? As it only asks me to sell
> products already listed on their site.
>
> I would like to sell it at Ebay.com but I could not understand how to
> sell GetClub Chess there.
>
> Can Someone give me list of Sites which sell Chess Programs. So that I
> too sell my GetClub Chess over those places.
>
> I will give 10% commision to the site selling my Chess Program.
>
> Which are the Top Sites where I should sell the GetClub Chess?
>
> Because till now I was interested in developing the Program. Now I
> want to get Profit by selling it. My Target is to sell atleast 1000
> copies a month.
>
> Please suggest all places and techniques that will help me sell
> GetClub Program to new Customers.
>
> Bye
> Sanny

I honestly don't know what to say here, because I have the tiniest
feeling that this is a joke. But I'll proceed as if this is a sincere
request.

=46rom everything I've heard about this program, there are dozens of
FREE programs that will completely destroy it. Therefore I would be
very surprised if you sold more than a few dozen copies total. But I
could be wrong, as there are lots of collectors out there who won't
mind spending a few dollars just to increase their collection or to
purchase an oddity such as your program.

It is easy to sell something on ebay; all you need is an account and
then just go through the "Sell an item" path. You will need a good
description of the program and everything that is included in what is
being purchased. You will also need to give people something physical
(meaning, your program on a disc) as I doubt that anybody on ebay
would pay for a program that they would have to download.

Don't bother with Amazon. It's much more complicated and they are only
interested in selling larger quantities that your program (in its
current state) will not accomplish.

jm


  
Date: 12 May 2008 18:36:25
From: fa03el
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?
You mentioned about free chess programs. Can you please suggest a couple of
free, strong chess programs, about expert level or higher, that can play
blitz chess on windows xp or 2000? Thanks.

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On May 9, 10:05 pm, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> Say, I want to buy a Chess Program where will I search for them?
>
> I am asking this Question because I want to know where do people go to
> buy Chess Programs. Then I will Sell GetClub Chess over all those
> places.
>
> I went to amazon.com and found lots Chess Program were sold there. I
> wanted to sell GetClub Chess. But it asked me to search items from a
> list and I found all Chess Programs Listed there but GetClub Chess was
> not listed. So I was unable to sell GetClub Chess at Amazon.com.
>
> How can I sell a new Product at Amazon.com? As it only asks me to sell
> products already listed on their site.
>
> I would like to sell it at Ebay.com but I could not understand how to
> sell GetClub Chess there.
>
> Can Someone give me list of Sites which sell Chess Programs. So that I
> too sell my GetClub Chess over those places.
>
> I will give 10% commision to the site selling my Chess Program.
>
> Which are the Top Sites where I should sell the GetClub Chess?
>
> Because till now I was interested in developing the Program. Now I
> want to get Profit by selling it. My Target is to sell atleast 1000
> copies a month.
>
> Please suggest all places and techniques that will help me sell
> GetClub Program to new Customers.
>
> Bye
> Sanny

I honestly don't know what to say here, because I have the tiniest
feeling that this is a joke. But I'll proceed as if this is a sincere
request.

From everything I've heard about this program, there are dozens of
FREE programs that will completely destroy it. Therefore I would be
very surprised if you sold more than a few dozen copies total. But I
could be wrong, as there are lots of collectors out there who won't
mind spending a few dollars just to increase their collection or to
purchase an oddity such as your program.

It is easy to sell something on ebay; all you need is an account and
then just go through the "Sell an item" path. You will need a good
description of the program and everything that is included in what is
being purchased. You will also need to give people something physical
(meaning, your program on a disc) as I doubt that anybody on ebay
would pay for a program that they would have to download.

Don't bother with Amazon. It's much more complicated and they are only
interested in selling larger quantities that your program (in its
current state) will not accomplish.

jm




 
Date: 10 May 2008 07:40:32
From:
Subject: Re: From where can I buy Chess Programs?



Sanny wrote:

>Say, I want to buy a Chess Program where will I search for them?
>
>I am asking this Question because I want to know where do people go to
>buy Chess Programs. Then I will Sell GetClub Chess over all those
>places.
>
>I went to amazon.com and found lots Chess Program were sold there. I
>wanted to sell GetClub Chess. But it asked me to search items from a
>list and I found all Chess Programs Listed there but GetClub Chess was
>not listed. So I was unable to sell GetClub Chess at Amazon.com.

Amazon.com does not sell anything advertised with spam.

No money for stupid sanny!