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Date: 20 Oct 2008 09:06:33
From: EJAY
Subject: Game 5
After 35... fxe3 it looks like Kramnik is in real trouble as Anand
threatens to win the bishop and push the passed pawn to queen.I see no
way out as the King is stuck on the first rank




 
Date: 21 Oct 2008 04:14:53
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Anand wins Game 5
> I just checked my blog stats and about 20,000 unique users from 102
> countries logged on this blog during the 3+ hours of game 5.

Great whats the url to your blog.

Can you put GetClub Chess link on your blog? If getclub gets 20,000
unique visitors that will be great.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


 
Date: 20 Oct 2008 10:32:51
From:
Subject: Re: Anand wins Game 5
On Oct 20, 1:22=A0pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]m...
> On Oct 20, 12:06 pm, EJAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > After 35... fxe3 it looks like Kramnik is in real trouble as Anand
> > threatens to win the bishop and push the passed pawn to queen.I see no
> > way out as the King is stuck on the first rank
>
> =A0 You're right, it's over, and Anand leads by 2 points now. See the
> game here:
>
> =A0http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html
>
> =A0 Kramnik resigned after Black's 35th move. There was no defense to
> the threat of 36...e2 attacking the pinned bishop.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Here is the game score with Gm analysis by Susan Polgar
>
> World Championship - Bonn / Game 5
>
> 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 a=
6
> 9.e4 c5 10.e5 cxd4 11.Nxb5 axb5 12.exf6 gxf6 13.O-O Qb6 14.Qe2 Bb7 15.Bxb=
5
> So far we have a repeat of game 3.
>
> 15...Rg8 This is the first deviation from game 3. Anand played 15...Bd6 i=
n
> the third game which lead to a wild game where Kramnik misplayed and lost=
.
>
> 16.Bf4 Bd6 The players were moving at a fast pace until this move. Kramni=
k
> is taking his time with this next move. He has several options: 17. Bg3 a=
nd
> 17.Bxd6. I like 17.Bg3 better and its idea is to strengthen the g file fr=
om
> the threat of Black's Bishop on b7 and Rook on g8.
>
> 17.Bg3 Black has a few logical options such as 17...f5, 17...Ke7, 17...Rd=
8,
> etc. Black's plan is to create an attack on the Kingside and White's plan=
is
> to exploit Black King's position as well as eventually trying to advance =
his
> a and b connected passed pawns. 17...f5 seems to be the most aggressive
> option
>
> 17...f5 This is one possible wild continuation 18.a4 f4 19.Bh4 Qc5 20.Rfd=
1
> Qh5 21.Kh1 Rxg2 22.Kxg2 Qxh4 23.Bxd7+ =A0Ke7 =3D+ . This is another possi=
bility
> 18.Rfd1 f4 19.Bh4 Ra5 20.a4 Rxb5 21.axb5 Ne5 -/+. Here is another one
> 18.Bxd6 Qxd6 19.Rfd1 Ke7 =3D+ =A0It is obvious why Kramnik is spending a =
lot of
> time on this move. This is the critical moment and he could be worse in s=
ome
> of the lines. Frankly speaking, I am very surprised that Kramnik repeated
> this variation which suits Anand's style a lot better. I am not privy to =
the
> preparation from the players but it seems that Kramnik is surprised by
> 15...Rg8. He is now more than 30 minutes behind on time. =A0Here is anoth=
er
> line I just looked at 18.Ne5 Bxe5 19.Qxe5 f6 20.Qe2 Just like other lines
> above, White has nothing. =A0This is now becoming really curious. Kramnik=
is
> now down by more than 50 minutes on the clock.
>
> 18. Rfc1 This is a move I did not anticipate. The most obvious and logica=
l
> move that came to my head is 18...f4 since that is the reason why Black
> played 17...f5. Let's examine it 18...f4 19.Bh4 Be7 20.Bxe7 Kxe7 21.Bxd7
> Kxd7 and I think it is unclear . I cannot imagine Black playing something
> else.
>
> 18... f4 19.Bh4 I update the game live. Make sure to refresh your screen =
to
> see all the updates.
>
> 19...Be7 This is what I anticipated. White has no way of stopping the
> eventual exchange of the dark color Bishop which makes the g2 pawn more
> vulnerable to Anand's attack. =A0Kramnik does have a few options such as
> 20.Bxe7, 20.Qd3, 20.a4, etc. =A0I like 20.a4 the best. It strengthen the
> Bishop on b5 to allow the Queen to do other things.
>
> 20.a4 This is now the crucial moment for Anand. Two =A0possible options a=
re
> 20...Qd6 or 20...Rd8. =A0I personally prefer 20...Qd6 because I would wan=
t my
> Rook to be on the a file for now. If =A0Black tries 20... Bxh4 21. Nxh4 K=
e7
> 22. Qh5 Qd6 and =A0it is also =A0unclear.
>
> 20...Bxh4 21.Nxh4 Ke7 =A0It is very difficult to come up with the right p=
lan
> here given the high stake of the game and how complicated the position is=
.
> Their ability to make the right decisions more often than not is one of t=
he
> reasons why they are World Champions. An interesting try is 22.g3 =A0Rg5
> 23.Bxd7 Kxd7 24.Nf3 Bxf3 25.Qxf3 Rb8 and White is a little better. Anothe=
r
> could be just to get the King out of the g file with 22.Kf1. This game is
> crucial for both players. If Kramnik falters again, it will be virtually
> impossible for Kramnik to come back with just 7 games left. On the other
> hand, if Kramnik wins, it will give him an incredible boost and the momen=
tum
> will be back on his side. The state of mind of the players could be the m=
ost
> important factor in such a high stake close match such as this. Having be=
en
> through this before myself, I can tell you that it is not fun :)
>
> 22.Ra3 =A0A complete surprise and an interesting idea. I did not anticipa=
te
> this mov e at this juncture. I am not sure if it is the strongest choice.
> Black has 2 main ideas: To pile the Rooks on the g file with 22...Rg5 or =
to
> make a play for the c file with 22...Rac8. Both are playable although I
> prefer playing for the c file a little more. =A0This is why I do not beli=
eve
> that 22.Ra3 is the most accurate move.
>
> 22...Rac8 Anand chose to make a play for the c file which I believe is th=
e
> correct idea . 23.Rxc8 Rxc8 24.Ra1 Qc5 25.Qd2 Qd6 26.Rd1 Ne5 27.Kf1 =A0=
=3D
>
> 23.Rxc8 Rxc8 24.Ra1 =A0Now the Black King is safer than it was a few move=
s
> ago. But so is the White King. =A024... Rg8 25.a5 Qc5 26.a6 Ba8 27.Bxd7 K=
xd7
> +=3D; 24... Rc5 25.b4 Rg5 26.Nf3 Rg8 27.Rd1 Nf6 =3D; =A0I like this line =
the best
> 24...Qc5 25.Qd2 Qd6 26.Rd1 Ne5 27.Kf1 =A0=3D
>
> 24... Qc5 25.Qg4 =A0Kramnik played this move very fast. It would be a mis=
take
> for Black 25...Qc1+ 26. Rxc1 Rxc1+ 27. Bf1 Ba6 28. h3 +- . =A025...Qe5.
> 25...Qc2, or 25...Ne5 are all better options. =A0I think 25...Qe5 is the =
most
> interesting.
>
> 25...Qe5 26.Nf3 Another instant response by Kramnik.
>
> 26...Qf6 Anand also responded very fast, which may be dangerous in such a
> complicated position. Another possibility is 26... Bxf3 27. Qxf3 Rc2 =3D
>
> 27.Re1 It would have been a mistake =A027.Nxd4? Qxd4 28.Rd1 Nf6-+. =A027.=
Rd1 is
> also a good move. In fact, I like it better than Re1.
>
> 27...Rc5 28.b4 I think the clear choice here is 28...Rc3 to attack the
> Knight on f3. Anand's position is quite comfortable now.
>
> 28...Rc3 The pressure now is on White. The worst possible move is 29.Nd4
> Qxd4 30.Rd1 Nf6 31.Rxd4 Nxg4 32.Rd7+ Kf6 and Black wins due to to White's
> back rank problem.
>
> 29.Nxd4?? This is a poison pawn. White is now in serious trouble. I think=
it
> is over.

It took Fritz8 a while to work through the complications, but it
endorses Susan's analysis. 29.Nxd4 was the losing move; Kramknik must
have missed something. Fritz8 seems to think 29.Nd2 was White's best
move, and it rates the resulting position as slightly in White's
favor, about +0.66.

> 29...Qxd4 30. Rd1 Nf6 31.Rxd4 Nxg4 32.Rd7+ Kf6 33.Rxb7 Rc1+ 34.Bf1 Ne3!
> and it is about over! I think Kramnik missed this move in his original
> calculation.
>
> 35.fxe3 fxe3 0-1 =A0A devastating loss for Kramnik. I am not counting him=
out
> but it is very difficult to score a +2 against Anand in the last 7 games =
to
> even up the match.
>
> Score after 5 games: =A0Anand 3.5 - 1.5 Kramnik
>
> I just checked my blog stats and about 20,000 unique users from 102
> countries logged on this blog during the 3+ hours of game 5. This is not
> nearly the same as during the final 2 games of the Kramnik - Topalov
> (Elista) match which had about 6 times more bloggers in each game. I am s=
ure
> the numbers will pick up if the match gets closer.
> =A0Chess news from Susan Polgar



  
Date: 21 Oct 2008 04:16:39
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Anand wins Game 5
On Oct 21, 11:21=A0am, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> A poison pawn ..That can kill you..
>
> Both games Anand has won with black....wow

Yesterday Taylor Kingston told me pieces do not "kill" each other but
"capture" each other.

So the phrase would be

A poison pawn ..That can capture you..

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




   
Date: 21 Oct 2008 18:07:50
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Anand wins Game 5
so true..

These games have been exciting to me ..

Just hope later Gata can take out Top..

Then Gata vs Anand ...I want to see this match...



  
Date: 20 Oct 2008 23:21:03
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Anand wins Game 5
A poison pawn ..That can kill you..

Both games Anand has won with black....wow



 
Date: 20 Oct 2008 09:47:34
From:
Subject: Anand wins Game 5
On Oct 20, 12:06=A0pm, EJAY <[email protected] > wrote:
> After 35... fxe3 it looks like Kramnik is in real trouble as Anand
> threatens to win the bishop and push the passed pawn to queen.I see no
> way out as the King is stuck on the first rank

You're right, it's over, and Anand leads by 2 points now. See the
game here:

http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html

Kramnik resigned after Black's 35th move. There was no defense to
the threat of 36...e2 attacking the pinned bishop.


  
Date: 20 Oct 2008 13:22:51
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Anand wins Game 5

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]m...
On Oct 20, 12:06 pm, EJAY <[email protected] > wrote:
> After 35... fxe3 it looks like Kramnik is in real trouble as Anand
> threatens to win the bishop and push the passed pawn to queen.I see no
> way out as the King is stuck on the first rank

You're right, it's over, and Anand leads by 2 points now. See the
game here:

http://www.chesscafe.com/wc2008/client.html

Kramnik resigned after Black's 35th move. There was no defense to
the threat of 36...e2 attacking the pinned bishop.

========
Here is the game score with Gm analysis by Susan Polgar

World Championship - Bonn / Game 5

1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 a6
9.e4 c5 10.e5 cxd4 11.Nxb5 axb5 12.exf6 gxf6 13.O-O Qb6 14.Qe2 Bb7 15.Bxb5
So far we have a repeat of game 3.

15...Rg8 This is the first deviation from game 3. Anand played 15...Bd6 in
the third game which lead to a wild game where Kramnik misplayed and lost.

16.Bf4 Bd6 The players were moving at a fast pace until this move. Kramnik
is taking his time with this next move. He has several options: 17. Bg3 and
17.Bxd6. I like 17.Bg3 better and its idea is to strengthen the g file from
the threat of Black's Bishop on b7 and Rook on g8.

17.Bg3 Black has a few logical options such as 17...f5, 17...Ke7, 17...Rd8,
etc. Black's plan is to create an attack on the Kingside and White's plan is
to exploit Black King's position as well as eventually trying to advance his
a and b connected passed pawns. 17...f5 seems to be the most aggressive
option

17...f5 This is one possible wild continuation 18.a4 f4 19.Bh4 Qc5 20.Rfd1
Qh5 21.Kh1 Rxg2 22.Kxg2 Qxh4 23.Bxd7+ Ke7 =+ . This is another possibility
18.Rfd1 f4 19.Bh4 Ra5 20.a4 Rxb5 21.axb5 Ne5 -/+. Here is another one
18.Bxd6 Qxd6 19.Rfd1 Ke7 =+ It is obvious why Kramnik is spending a lot of
time on this move. This is the critical moment and he could be worse in some
of the lines. Frankly speaking, I am very surprised that Kramnik repeated
this variation which suits Anand's style a lot better. I am not privy to the
preparation from the players but it seems that Kramnik is surprised by
15...Rg8. He is now more than 30 minutes behind on time. Here is another
line I just looked at 18.Ne5 Bxe5 19.Qxe5 f6 20.Qe2 Just like other lines
above, White has nothing. This is now becoming really curious. Kramnik is
now down by more than 50 minutes on the clock.

18. Rfc1 This is a move I did not anticipate. The most obvious and logical
move that came to my head is 18...f4 since that is the reason why Black
played 17...f5. Let's examine it 18...f4 19.Bh4 Be7 20.Bxe7 Kxe7 21.Bxd7
Kxd7 and I think it is unclear . I cannot imagine Black playing something
else.

18... f4 19.Bh4 I update the game live. Make sure to refresh your screen to
see all the updates.

19...Be7 This is what I anticipated. White has no way of stopping the
eventual exchange of the dark color Bishop which makes the g2 pawn more
vulnerable to Anand's attack. Kramnik does have a few options such as
20.Bxe7, 20.Qd3, 20.a4, etc. I like 20.a4 the best. It strengthen the
Bishop on b5 to allow the Queen to do other things.

20.a4 This is now the crucial moment for Anand. Two possible options are
20...Qd6 or 20...Rd8. I personally prefer 20...Qd6 because I would want my
Rook to be on the a file for now. If Black tries 20... Bxh4 21. Nxh4 Ke7
22. Qh5 Qd6 and it is also unclear.

20...Bxh4 21.Nxh4 Ke7 It is very difficult to come up with the right plan
here given the high stake of the game and how complicated the position is.
Their ability to make the right decisions more often than not is one of the
reasons why they are World Champions. An interesting try is 22.g3 Rg5
23.Bxd7 Kxd7 24.Nf3 Bxf3 25.Qxf3 Rb8 and White is a little better. Another
could be just to get the King out of the g file with 22.Kf1. This game is
crucial for both players. If Kramnik falters again, it will be virtually
impossible for Kramnik to come back with just 7 games left. On the other
hand, if Kramnik wins, it will give him an incredible boost and the momentum
will be back on his side. The state of mind of the players could be the most
important factor in such a high stake close match such as this. Having been
through this before myself, I can tell you that it is not fun :)

22.Ra3 A complete surprise and an interesting idea. I did not anticipate
this mov e at this juncture. I am not sure if it is the strongest choice.
Black has 2 main ideas: To pile the Rooks on the g file with 22...Rg5 or to
make a play for the c file with 22...Rac8. Both are playable although I
prefer playing for the c file a little more. This is why I do not believe
that 22.Ra3 is the most accurate move.

22...Rac8 Anand chose to make a play for the c file which I believe is the
correct idea . 23.Rxc8 Rxc8 24.Ra1 Qc5 25.Qd2 Qd6 26.Rd1 Ne5 27.Kf1 =

23.Rxc8 Rxc8 24.Ra1 Now the Black King is safer than it was a few moves
ago. But so is the White King. 24... Rg8 25.a5 Qc5 26.a6 Ba8 27.Bxd7 Kxd7
+=; 24... Rc5 25.b4 Rg5 26.Nf3 Rg8 27.Rd1 Nf6 =; I like this line the best
24...Qc5 25.Qd2 Qd6 26.Rd1 Ne5 27.Kf1 =

24... Qc5 25.Qg4 Kramnik played this move very fast. It would be a mistake
for Black 25...Qc1+ 26. Rxc1 Rxc1+ 27. Bf1 Ba6 28. h3 +- . 25...Qe5.
25...Qc2, or 25...Ne5 are all better options. I think 25...Qe5 is the most
interesting.

25...Qe5 26.Nf3 Another instant response by Kramnik.

26...Qf6 Anand also responded very fast, which may be dangerous in such a
complicated position. Another possibility is 26... Bxf3 27. Qxf3 Rc2 =

27.Re1 It would have been a mistake 27.Nxd4? Qxd4 28.Rd1 Nf6-+. 27.Rd1 is
also a good move. In fact, I like it better than Re1.

27...Rc5 28.b4 I think the clear choice here is 28...Rc3 to attack the
Knight on f3. Anand's position is quite comfortable now.

28...Rc3 The pressure now is on White. The worst possible move is 29.Nd4
Qxd4 30.Rd1 Nf6 31.Rxd4 Nxg4 32.Rd7+ Kf6 and Black wins due to to White's
back rank problem.

29.Nxd4?? This is a poison pawn. White is now in serious trouble. I think it
is over.

29...Qxd4 30. Rd1 Nf6 31.Rxd4 Nxg4 32.Rd7+ Kf6 33.Rxb7 Rc1+ 34.Bf1 Ne3!
and it is about over! I think Kramnik missed this move in his original
calculation.

35.fxe3 fxe3 0-1 A devastating loss for Kramnik. I am not counting him out
but it is very difficult to score a +2 against Anand in the last 7 games to
even up the match.

Score after 5 games: Anand 3.5 - 1.5 Kramnik

I just checked my blog stats and about 20,000 unique users from 102
countries logged on this blog during the 3+ hours of game 5. This is not
nearly the same as during the final 2 games of the Kramnik - Topalov
(Elista) match which had about 6 times more bloggers in each game. I am sure
the numbers will pick up if the match gets closer.
Chess news from Susan Polgar