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Date: 01 Nov 2008 03:56:57
From: Sanny
Subject: GetClub made Twice Stronger.
> A few players complained me that the game performance has detoriated.

Today again the game was made 2 times Stronger.

Now I think GetClub cannot be further improved as if anything is
changed the performance decreases. So this is the maximum strength the
GetClub can play at.

Play with various levels at GetClub.

Play Chess: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Beginner: 2200+
Easy: 2300+
Normal: 2400+

Here is a game against Jester. Jester took 69 Moves to win the game.

Game Played between Jester and beginner at GetClub.com

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Jester: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM29938&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(Jester) -- (beginner)

1. e2-e4{2} d7-d5{0}
2. e4-d5{6} Qd8-d5{0}
3. Nb1-c3{6} Qd5-a5{0}
4. d2-d4{6} Ng8-f6{2}
5. Ng1-f3{6} Nb8-c6{40}
6. Bf1-b5{8} Nf6-e4{8}
7. Bc1-d2{12} Ne4-c3{6}
8. Bb5-c6{10} b7-c6{12}
9. Bd2-c3{10} Qa5-a6{6}
10. Nf3-e5{14} Bc8-e6{14}
11. Qd1-h5{12} h7-h6{6}
12. a2-a3{10} Qa6-b5{8}
13. Ke1-c1{10} Ke8-c8{12}
14. Rh1-e1{10} g7-g6{8}
15. Qh5-h4{12} Be6-d5{12}
16. Bc3-b4{24} a7-a6{20}
17. Bb4-e7{10} Bf8-e7{10}
18. Qh4-e7{8} Rh8-e8{8}
19. Qe7-h4{10} h6-h5{16}
20. Qh4-f4{10} Kc8-b8{58}
21. f2-f3{10} Re8-f8{8}
22. Qf4-f6{10} Kb8-a8{6}
23. Qf6-e7{10} Rd8-b8{12}
24. b2-b3{10} Rf8-e8{12}
25. Qe7-c7{10} Rb8-b7{6}
26. Qc7-d6{10} Re8-e6{6}
27. Qd6-f8{12} Rb7-b8{6}
28. Qf8-c5{14} Qb5-c5{6}
29. d4-c5{10} Rb8-e8{8}
30. Ne5-d3{12} Re6-e1{8}
31. Rd1-e1{12} Re8-e1{0}
32. Nd3-e1{10} Ka8-b7{8}
33. c2-c4{16} Bd5-e6{6}
34. Ne1-c2{10} f7-f5{10}
35. Kc1-d2{10} a6-a5{6}
36. Nc2-d4{12} Be6-f7{6}
37. Kd2-d3{8} Kb7-c7{10}
38. b3-b4{10} a5-b4{8}
39. a3-b4{8} Kc7-b7{12}
40. b4-b5{10} Kb7-c7{12}
41. Nd4-c6{10} Bf7-e8{10}
42. Nc6-a5{10} Be8-f7{16}
43. b5-b6{10} Kc7-c8{6}
44. c5-c6{8} h5-h4{14}
45. Kd3-c3{10} f5-f4{12}
46. Na5-b7{14} Bf7-e6{34}
47. Nb7-c5{10} g6-g5{12}
48. Nc5-a6{10} Kc8-d8{6}
49. c4-c5{10} h4-h3{6}
50. g2-g4{12} f4-g3{6}
51. b6-b7{12} g3-h2{16}
52. Qb7-b8{Q}{12} Kd8-e7{6}
53. Qb8-h2{12} Ke7-f6{6}
54. c6-c7{10} Be6-c8{12}
55. Qh2-d6{12} Kf6-f7{8}
56. Na6-b8{10} g5-g4{6}
57. f3-g4{10} h3-h2{6}
58. Qd6-h2{10} Kf7-g7{12}
59. Qh2-h5{12} Bc8-e6{24}
60. Qh5-e8{12} Kg7-f6{14}
61. g4-g5{20} Kf6-f5{8}
62. Kc3-d4{14} Be6-c8{6}
63. c5-c6{120} Bc8-e6{6}
64. Nb8-a6{12} Be6-c8{6}
65. Na6-c5{12} Kf5-g5{14}
66. Qe8-c8{10} Kg5-f4{0}
67. Nc5-e4{8} Kf4-f3{0}
68. Qc8-h3{12} Kf3-e2{0}
69. Qh3-e3{12} Ke2-e3{0}
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Jester: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM29938&game=Chess

Play a few games with Beginner Level and let me know if you can win
any game.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




 
Date: 12 Nov 2008 12:34:03
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Bugs are Biting Corrected
On Nov 9, 10:03 pm, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:

> It was due to some Mal function.

Is doctor Mal your programmer?
What country is s/he from?
When was s/he born? Or is it
her/his sister/brother?

Wlod


 
Date: 11 Nov 2008 21:19:47
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Bugs are Biting Corrected
> > The Move it played was a wrong move Qxd5 and not Nxd5. Since that too
> > was a wrong move I removed that move. Now it will play the correct move
> > by recalculating.
>
> So if another program plays an illegal move, or freezes, you win, but if you do
> so, you just effectively ignore it? 1-0 to Taylor, I think?
>

After the move was removed, Taylor Kingston completed the game and Win
it.

Beginner took 6 sec / move while Taylor Kingston was taking 48 sec /
move.

I think Easy Level will give him good challenge.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



 
Date: 11 Nov 2008 21:14:01
From: Stephan Bird
Subject: Re: Bugs are Biting Corrected
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:03:52 -0800 in
3a25328e-0a1c-4[email protected], Sanny
<[email protected] > wrote:

>>   Today, the supposedly "bug-free" GetClub program did the following
>> as White:
>>
>> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Bg7 5.Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Nxc6
>> bxc6 8. Bc4 O-O 9. O-O Nxe4 10. Nxe4 d5  11.Nxd5
>>
>>   Please tell us, Sanny, how a supposedly bug-free program thinks a
>> knight on e4 can legally capture a pawn on d5?
>
> The last move was removed It was due to some Mal function. The last
> wrong move has been removed from the database. So you can complete the
> game.
>
> I think now it will make the correct move. The game is Recorded so you
> can restart from the point it left.
>
> The Move it played was a wrong move Qxd5 and not Nxd5. Since that too
> was a wrong move I removed that move. Now it will play the correct move
> by recalculating.


So if another program plays an illegal move, or freezes, you win, but if you do
so, you just effectively ignore it? 1-0 to Taylor, I think?

Stephan



--
Stephan Bird MChem(Hons) AMRSC
[email protected]
Currently in Macclesfield, Cheshire


 
Date: 09 Nov 2008 22:03:52
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Bugs are Biting Corrected
> =A0 Today, the supposedly "bug-free" GetClub program did the following
> as White:
>
> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Bg7 5.Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Nxc6
> bxc6 8. Bc4 O-O 9. O-O Nxe4 10. Nxe4 d5 =A011.Nxd5
>
> =A0 Please tell us, Sanny, how a supposedly bug-free program thinks a
> knight on e4 can legally capture a pawn on d5?

The last move was removed It was due to some Mal function. The last
wrong move has been removed from the database. So you can complete the
game.

I think now it will make the correct move. The game is Recorded so you
can restart from the point it left.

The Move it played was a wrong move Qxd5 and not Nxd5. Since that too
was a wrong move I removed that move. Now it will play the correct
move by recalculating.

If the problem persists let me know.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




 
Date: 09 Nov 2008 10:22:46
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: The Bugs are Biting at GetClub
> Yes, Today I played a game and there also a bug crept in.
>
> Looks like something wrong somewhere, Should I cancel your game?


I could not find your game in the database. What username you were
playing with?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



 
Date: 09 Nov 2008 10:20:09
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: The Bugs are Biting at GetClub
On Nov 9, 8:39=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> =A0 Today, the supposedly "bug-free" GetClub program did the following
> as White:
>
> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Bg7 5.Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Nxc6
> bxc6 8. Bc4 O-O 9. O-O Nxe4 10. Nxe4 d5 =A011.Nxd5
>
> =A0 Please tell us, Sanny, how a supposedly bug-free program thinks a
> knight on e4 can legally capture a pawn on d5?

Yes, Today I played a game and there also a bug crept in.

Looks like something wrong somewhere, Should I cancel your game?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


 
Date: 09 Nov 2008 07:39:15
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: The Bugs are Biting at GetClub

Today, the supposedly "bug-free" GetClub program did the following
as White:

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Bg7 5.Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Nxc6
bxc6 8. Bc4 O-O 9. O-O Nxe4 10. Nxe4 d5 11.Nxd5

Please tell us, Sanny, how a supposedly bug-free program thinks a
knight on e4 can legally capture a pawn on d5?





  
Date: 09 Nov 2008 20:20:39
From: Patrick Volk
Subject: Re: The Bugs are Biting at GetClub
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 07:39:15 -0800 (PST), Taylor Kingston
<[email protected] > wrote:

>
> Today, the supposedly "bug-free" GetClub program did the following
>as White:
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Bg7 5.Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Nxc6
>bxc6 8. Bc4 O-O 9. O-O Nxe4 10. Nxe4 d5 11.Nxd5
>
> Please tell us, Sanny, how a supposedly bug-free program thinks a
>knight on e4 can legally capture a pawn on d5?

The scary part is that a bug like that can creep in there. That's a
core thing, and it's in flux. Scary.


>
>


 
Date: 05 Nov 2008 02:42:27
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub made bug free !!!
On Nov 5, 1:13=A0pm, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> Phrase "GetClub made bug free !!!"
> brought a smile to my face.
>
> =A0 =A0 Wlod

Smile is good for health.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


 
Date: 05 Nov 2008 00:13:30
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: GetClub made bug free !!!
Phrase "GetClub made bug free !!!"
brought a smile to my face.

Wlod


 
Date: 04 Nov 2008 06:07:35
From:
Subject: Re: GetClub made bug free !!!

Here is a short video of Sanny attempting to de-bug his program.
(Sanny is the one screaming)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlWYaKjbSBU


 
Date: 03 Nov 2008 23:48:25
From: Sanny
Subject: GetClub made bug free !!!
On Nov 4, 10:58=A0am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 1, 5:56=A0am, Sanny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > A few players complained me that the game performance has detoriated.
>
> > Today again the game was made 2 times Stronger.
>
> =A0 Astute readers will note that I have carefully avoided
> playing this double-strength version, instead patiently
> waiting for the new army of "bugs" to arrive. =A0 Some
> may say I am protecting my artificially-high GetClub
> rating; others may accuse me of quitting just when
> things were beginning to get interesting. =A0The truth is,
> I just can't keep up the blistering pace of improvement
> anymore-- 20% one week, 100% improvement the
> next. =A0I'm exhausted and besides, if I were to get too
> strong, nobody would want to play me... .
>
> =A0 -- help bot

Now, GetClub too has exhausted.

For atleast 2 months I will not be improving the GetClub since now it
is bug free. and do not want new bugs by further improvements. For
every one improvement I get 2 new bugs.

Easy Level will give you a strong challenge. Well Beginner is still a
good meal for you.

There is a new Player "Mentula" He is as good as you and he always
wins against the Easy Level. I think If you have a match with him that
will be really challenging.

Now Beginner Thinks till 14 depth (Very Good)
Easy Thinks till 16 depth (Great Challange)
Normal Thinks till 18 depth (No one dares)
Master Thinks till 20 depth (The Mighty one)

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


 
Date: 03 Nov 2008 21:59:55
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub Now Walks on Water, gives Free Beer!
On Nov 1, 10:05=A0am, [email protected] wrote:

> =A0 GetClub now walks on water!

> =A0 Even better, it provides free beer!


I'm back!


-- help bot




 
Date: 03 Nov 2008 21:58:04
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub made Twice Stronger.
On Nov 1, 5:56=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:

> > A few players complained me that the game performance has detoriated.
>
> Today again the game was made 2 times Stronger.


Astute readers will note that I have carefully avoided
playing this double-strength version, instead patiently
waiting for the new army of "bugs" to arrive. Some
may say I am protecting my artificially-high GetClub
rating; others may accuse me of quitting just when
things were beginning to get interesting. The truth is,
I just can't keep up the blistering pace of improvement
anymore-- 20% one week, 100% improvement the
next. I'm exhausted and besides, if I were to get too
strong, nobody would want to play me... .


-- help bot









 
Date: 01 Nov 2008 09:16:12
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub made Twice Stronger.
> > Now I think GetClub cannot be further improved as if anything is
> > changed the performance decreases. So this is the maximum strength the
> > GetClub can play at.
>
> Good, maybe we won't see any more of your retarded posts about it.

I wish thats not true and I find some way of improving GetClub. But
without "Help Bot" I can't improve GetClub anymore.

> > Beginner: 2200+
> > Easy: 2300+
> > Normal: 2400+
>
> But those are the OLD numbers. =A0 If it is "2 times stronger" now, those
> should be 4400, 4600 and 4800! =A0 If you are going to make up numbers (w=
hich
> you obviously do) at least be mathematically consistent to avoid looking
> like a complete

You are correct. But Maths is always correct.

When 3 months back GetClub Beginner was 2100+ I said getclub has
improved twice and then gave 2200+ rating.

Then again 1 month back I said GetClub was improved and I increased
rating to 2300+.

But after playing a few games against Rybka & Jester along with
complains by good players I understood the game has not improved but
detoriated. I found the two improvements were in opposite directions.

So I took back all the updates that detoriated the game. Now the game
was 2100+. But after taking back the improvement. I found its Twice
better than earlier. So I said the Rating is 2200+.

I always tell that rating that is correct. And I have no intentions of
giving false ratings.

If tommorow someone prooves me that GetClub Beginner is 1800+ I will
change my opinion. I am always with the best rating I get from
feedbacks from good players.

GetClub is so strong because of help by Help Bot, Martin Brown,
Satwz, Taylor Kingston and many more good players whose suggestions
were used to improve the game.

Most of the credits goes to "Help Bot" without whom GetClub would be
1200+ only.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


  
Date: 02 Nov 2008 20:13:27
From: Bjoern
Subject: Re: GetClub made Twice Stronger.
Sanny schrieb:
> I am always with the best rating I get from
> feedbacks from good players.

I hereby declare myself a good player and give you the feedback that
master level is 1600.

Since you'll likely get no other feedback, go with that for the time being.


 
Date: 01 Nov 2008 08:05:47
From:
Subject: GetClub Now Walks on Water, gives Free Beer!
On Nov 1, 6:56=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:

GetClub now walks on water! Here is proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzgGmedc-AEM

Even better, it provides free beer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUcCnsJSYAZ0

Play Chess at:http://www.GetFlub.com/Chess.html



 
Date: 01 Nov 2008 10:39:24
From: Bob Campbell
Subject: Re: GetClub made Twice Stronger.
"Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]m...
>> A few players complained me that the game performance has detoriated.
>
> Today again the game was made 2 times Stronger.

More of your random number bullshit? Same old, same old.

> Now I think GetClub cannot be further improved as if anything is
> changed the performance decreases. So this is the maximum strength the
> GetClub can play at.

Good, maybe we won't see any more of your retarded posts about it.

> Beginner: 2200+
> Easy: 2300+
> Normal: 2400+

But those are the OLD numbers. If it is "2 times stronger" now, those
should be 4400, 4600 and 4800! If you are going to make up numbers (which
you obviously do) at least be mathematically consistent to avoid looking
like a complete asshole.