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Date: 29 Jul 2008 08:04:20
From: samsloan
Subject: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
If there is any problem, let me know.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 21:34:32
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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The man himself proclaimed that "talk is
cheap", yet people supposedly elected him
on his many, many unverifiable claims to
greatness, described in such vague terms
as to arouse suspicion even among the
more trusting types.
The SP Web site is filled with lies which
even staunch apologists refuse to try and
defend, instead, /willingly accepting lies/
and sheepishly re-branding them as
"hyperbole".
Evidence seems to nail the dynamic duo
on the charge of impersonating SS (and
that other, irrelevant guy), actually making
Mr. Sloan's wild guess look "smart" for a
change.
The accumulated effect seems to be
zilch, for some; these die-hard apologists
just /change the subject/ to "why are so
many net-bullies unfairly picking on
SP/PT?" They launch a smear campaign
of sorts, while at the same time engaging
in their hallmark "radio silence" regarding
all these issues.
In sum, the bar is lowered all the way to
the ground-- provided the next jumper has
the initials "SP" or "PT". It boggles the
mind. Next, we may spot the apologists
digging a shallow trench under the bar so
that it will not irritate them as they
slither across. (At any rate, it is a safety
hazard to have such bars at all in the
face of this type of contestant.)
I want to suggest re-naming the event
(from moral "high jump") to something a
bit more appropriate... .
-- help bot
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 21:16:37
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 10:42=A0pm, The Historian <[email protected] >
wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2:58 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Well. Personally this entire thread disgusts me.Let he who is without
> > sin cast the first stone.
> While on the subject of stone-casting, haven't you been attacking Ed
> Trice for weeks now?
Thats rich! LOL All I did was toss a few back.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 21:09:46
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 12:27 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote:
> The Historian wrote:
> > On Jul 29, 11:59 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Javert wrote:
> >>> On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
> >>>>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
> >>>>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
> >>>>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
> >>>>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
> >>>>> Did you get the file without any problems?
> >>>> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
> >>>> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
> >>>>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
> >>>>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
> >>>>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
> >>>>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
> >>>>> Susan.
> >>>> This will make one hell of a novel!
> >>> I was able to download it, no problem.
> >>> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> >>> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> >>> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> >>> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> >>> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
> >>> I'm shocked.
> >> Add to that appearance fees for the woman who, according to Trolgar, has
> >> her schedule booked two years in advance. I have a feeling this is
> >> going to get very messy. Does anyone have a list of publications and
> >> publication dates. Doesn't she have a DVD chess series, endorsements of
> >> chess sets with House of Staunton and others? Does Truong legally share
> >> in any of this?
>
> > My question is, who among the Trolgarista knew about this? P Innes has
> > been very quiet this morning.
>
> Didn't Phil admit to knowing that Trolgar was married long before that
> was generally known?
No, he didn't admit, he bragged.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 21:08:57
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 11:59 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote:
> Javert wrote:
> > On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
> >>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
> >>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
> >>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
> >>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
> >>> Did you get the file without any problems?
> >> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
> >> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>
> >>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
> >>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
> >>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
> >>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
> >>> Susan.
> >> This will make one hell of a novel!
>
> > I was able to download it, no problem.
>
> > I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> > because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> > them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> > Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> > When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>
> > I'm shocked.
>
> Add to that appearance fees for the woman who, according to Trolgar, has
> her schedule booked two years in advance. I have a feeling this is
> going to get very messy. Does anyone have a list of publications and
> publication dates. Doesn't she have a DVD chess series, endorsements of
> chess sets with House of Staunton and others? Does Truong legally share
> in any of this?
GM Susan Polgar writes for Chessville. P Innes is the Business Manager
for Chessville. Perhaps that's a good start for an inquiry?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 20:42:17
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 2:58 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Well. Personally this entire thread disgusts me.Let he who is without
> sin cast the first stone.
While on the subject of stone-casting, haven't you been attacking Ed
Trice for weeks now?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 12:58:56
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 2:46=A0pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Javert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:804edce9-0acb-4316-9980-f9e87b539b3f@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>
> > > > > Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will
> > > > > expire.
>
> > > > > If there is any problem, let me know.
>
> > > > Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's th=
e
> > > > electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>
> > > Did you get the file without any problems?
>
> > I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
> > the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>
> > > Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
> > > for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
> > > when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
> > > Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
> > > Susan.
>
> > This will make one hell of a novel!
>
> I was able to download it, no problem.
>
> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>
> I'm shocked.
>
> **One possibility is that the couple were not ripping-off others as much =
as
> has been very loudly supposed! You know by whom - the same people now mak=
ing
> all the noise. Another is that it is expensive to have children, and to
> relocate half ways across the country. What exactly this has to do with
> anyone else here, or anyone anywhere, is yet to be said as a matter of
> decent public concern, but I note that the main protagonists of the issue
> are hardly models of openness about their own orientations and actions. P=
hil
> Innes- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well. Personally this entire thread disgusts me.Let he who is without
sin cast the first stone.
And the best way I know of to make a small fortune is to take a large
fortune and then get involved with chess!
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 18:11:32
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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"Rob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:3ee1ae2c-c2af-457f-8c36-991457221cb6@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 29, 2:46 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Javert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
Well. Personally this entire thread disgusts me.Let he who is without
sin cast the first stone.
**Ay, that is better said that anything I did, though innocent of your post
I used the same metaphor.
And the best way I know of to make a small fortune is to take a large
fortune and then get involved with chess!
**I think you have guessed it right......................
What comprises people's day is rather strange in my estimation. What they
wish to obsess upon, resent, cavil about. I tell you about my day, starting
inadvertently at 5:30 - after a spot of coffee walked the dog, met a tourist
who said he was from Nepal [we were in the woods] and I asked him Kathmandu?
[being careful not to say Cat-mandoo] And he was very happy, apologised for
his English [little] but enough, I said to take a walk :) Then we saw a
bird, a raptor, and hwe asked me its name, and I didn't do the only joke of
saying 'bird' but suggested a certain one.
At about 7:30 I was home again and decided to continue to shift the cordwood
into the garden, stacking about half through the day of what was in the
mouth of the garage. It was hot, 85, but not humid for a change. I moved
about 2 tons of wood.
Then I worked on the chess curriculum for an hour and a half. Clerical
activity now, after all the planning. Answered a bit of biz correspondance,
wrote some here and there, mostly about people's sense of what is decent to
exhault over.
Yesterday though I met an extraordianry Japanese woman with both great
intellect and sensibility. She is the friend of a friend, and we explored
the town together. They drinking coffee and me being careful of dehydration
[5 hours hard labor at my age!] and also launched into yet another good
book - The Library at Night, by Alberto Manguel - which has to do with
libraries, his own, and why we do it [frequent them, write at all, collect
them] and his beginning of his own. Mainly he takes about Alexandria, the
very strange ancient collection of works there - how why, who influenced
what; the superiority of Egyptian thought and philosophy to the Greek,
declaiming how, why, and the importance of that early effort.
[In passing he notes that 70% of the web is gone after 40 days.]
Philosophically today I considered two things - first the effort at
transference of knowledge represented by these books, and as such 'teaching'
by vicarious means, anid secondly the subject of 'learning' which is a
rather different prospect, and if indeed it is dependent at all on
'teaching' or merely supplemented, oriented, by it. I had a good
conversation with my wife on this topic.
I must work a bit more tonight on the curriculum, but not much - Thursday it
will rain, and that is a better opportunity. I have also obtained a rare
Thoreau title I am currently glossing.
This is as my days are. Sometimes enriched by visitors [the boyfriend of the
Japanese woman has 3 [ROFL] advanced degrees in theatre - first was his PhD
then he took a couple of MFAs. I've known him 23 years. Maybe we do a bit of
business? Maybe not, its relaxed enough, and I am glad for him of his
companion.
It is not any crazy existance, except sometimes tuning in here, and seeing
the frothing commentaries of those who only speculate, suggest, guess, and
it seems always, on //other// people's existence.
The real level of disgust for me at a human level is the lack of attention
of people to themselves - as if they think it is even possible to negotiate
the social realm without it [I do not mean that they would be exposed as
much as simple crack and fail in the attempt]. It is as if 'they do not know
what they do', and are compelled by very strong emotional forces to which
they do not even acknowledge to be at work in them.
You mention 'disgusting' at the social level, I say the same of the
individual level. Both are forms of daytime sleep, of a cultural narcolepsy,
which is unsustainable outside a group of similarly oriented people
alienated from themselves, and desperate not to engage themselves.
It is a form of cowardice to so beset others by such group attacks about
what is scarcely conscious in any and each of them of their own selve's life
responses.
And the trick is to see this clearly, otherwise one might judge them or pity
them. The key is that their is no conscious self present in their state to
engage, it is unconscious, and these are pawns of the sleepwalking Gods of
the underworld.
It is pertinent IMO to mention this stuff from time to time, not for
immediate effect [there is no one there!] but anon and anan.
Cordially, Phil Innes
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 21:12:52
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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Rob wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2:46 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Javert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:804edce9-0acb-4316-9980-f9e87b539b3f@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>>>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will
>>>>>> expire.
>>>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
>>>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
>>>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>>>> Did you get the file without any problems?
>>> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
>>> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>>>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
>>>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
>>>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
>>>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
>>>> Susan.
>>> This will make one hell of a novel!
>> I was able to download it, no problem.
>>
>> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>>
>> I'm shocked.
>>
>> **One possibility is that the couple were not ripping-off others as much as
>> has been very loudly supposed! You know by whom - the same people now making
>> all the noise. Another is that it is expensive to have children, and to
>> relocate half ways across the country. What exactly this has to do with
>> anyone else here, or anyone anywhere, is yet to be said as a matter of
>> decent public concern, but I note that the main protagonists of the issue
>> are hardly models of openness about their own orientations and actions. Phil
>> Innes- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Well. Personally this entire thread disgusts me.Let he who is without
> sin cast the first stone.
There are plenty of us who have never filed for bankruptcy. There are
plenty of us who have public lives in which we do not misrepresent
ourselves or hide things like multiple bankruptcy filings and marriages.
There are plenty of us who have never done what Truong did as the FSS.
I could go on, but you hopefully get the point.
>
> And the best way I know of to make a small fortune is to take a large
> fortune and then get involved with chess!
Who did that??!! Certainly not Truong. He's never had a large fortune.
Stay tuned. More is yet to come.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 13:17:17
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:58:56 -0700 (PDT), Rob <[email protected] >
wrote:
>Well. Personally this entire thread disgusts me.Let he who is without
>sin cast the first stone.
I'd agree if it related to some hapless USCF member who hadn't been
running for office touting his credentials as an astute businessman
who's impressive track record and expertise would rescue the USCF from
the fiscally incompetent incumbents. I mean, openness and all. You
seem to have had no problem linking aspects of the RSS's personal life
to his fitness for office.
To be in the culmination of a (second!) personal bankruptcy while
presenting the facade of the youthfully retired successful businessman
to the members.... THAT'S what many of us find disgusting.
>And the best way I know of to make a small fortune is to take a large
>fortune and then get involved with chess!
Actually, turning the stewardship of your large fortune over to an
administrator with two personal bankruptcies might be even more
effective. Or, one could try folk music.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 10:13:28
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 11:59 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote:
> Javert wrote:
> > On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
> >>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
> >>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
> >>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
> >>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
> >>> Did you get the file without any problems?
> >> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
> >> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>
> >>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
> >>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
> >>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
> >>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
> >>> Susan.
> >> This will make one hell of a novel!
>
> > I was able to download it, no problem.
>
> > I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> > because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> > them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> > Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> > When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>
> > I'm shocked.
>
> Add to that appearance fees for the woman who, according to Trolgar, has
> her schedule booked two years in advance. I have a feeling this is
> going to get very messy. Does anyone have a list of publications and
> publication dates. Doesn't she have a DVD chess series, endorsements of
> chess sets with House of Staunton and others? Does Truong legally share
> in any of this?
My question is, who among the Trolgarista knew about this? P Innes has
been very quiet this morning.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 15:56:52
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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"The Historian" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:3a6efd15-3767-4dae-bf08-1276f2ba94bc@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 29, 11:59 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Javert wrote:
>> > On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>> >>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will
>> >>>>> expire.
>> >>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
>> >>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
>> >>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>> >>> Did you get the file without any problems?
>> >> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
>> >> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>>
>> >>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
>> >>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
>> >>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
>> >>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
>> >>> Susan.
>> >> This will make one hell of a novel!
>>
>> > I was able to download it, no problem.
>>
>> > I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>> > because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>> > them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>> > Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>> > When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>>
>> > I'm shocked.
>>
>> Add to that appearance fees for the woman who, according to Trolgar, has
>> her schedule booked two years in advance. I have a feeling this is
>> going to get very messy. Does anyone have a list of publications and
>> publication dates. Doesn't she have a DVD chess series, endorsements of
>> chess sets with House of Staunton and others? Does Truong legally share
>> in any of this?
>
> My question is, who among the Trolgarista knew about this? P Innes has
> been very quiet this morning.
I spoke with Paul yesterday. What that has to do with a bunch of obsessive
stalking public abuseniks is unknown to me, except that they chose not to
live their own lives but vampire-like attempt to devour the lives of others,
chortling away to each other at each indecency. Why, some of them are
/merely/ indecent, whereas others....
at least some others do rather more than that and that they profess in
public ;)
Phil Innes
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 21:13:59
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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Chess One wrote:
> "The Historian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:3a6efd15-3767-4dae-bf08-1276f2ba94bc@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 29, 11:59 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Javert wrote:
>>>> On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>>>>>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will
>>>>>>>> expire.
>>>>>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
>>>>>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
>>>>>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>>>>>> Did you get the file without any problems?
>>>>> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
>>>>> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>>>>>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
>>>>>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
>>>>>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
>>>>>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
>>>>>> Susan.
>>>>> This will make one hell of a novel!
>>>> I was able to download it, no problem.
>>>> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>>>> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>>>> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>>>> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>>>> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>>>> I'm shocked.
>>> Add to that appearance fees for the woman who, according to Trolgar, has
>>> her schedule booked two years in advance. I have a feeling this is
>>> going to get very messy. Does anyone have a list of publications and
>>> publication dates. Doesn't she have a DVD chess series, endorsements of
>>> chess sets with House of Staunton and others? Does Truong legally share
>>> in any of this?
>> My question is, who among the Trolgarista knew about this? P Innes has
>> been very quiet this morning.
>
> I spoke with Paul yesterday. What that has to do with a bunch of obsessive
> stalking public abuseniks is unknown to me, except that they chose not to
> live their own lives but vampire-like attempt to devour the lives of others,
> chortling away to each other at each indecency. Why, some of them are
> /merely/ indecent, whereas others....
>
> at least some others do rather more than that and that they profess in
> public ;)
>
> Phil Innes
>
>
>
ROTFL!!! You are a chump, Phil. But at least you have one "friend" for
now.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 16:44:12
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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unknown to me, except that they chose not to
> live their own lives but vampire-like attempt to devour the lives of
> others,
So the credit-card debt was run up by an imposter?
--
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make
from what they teach.
Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187
Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 11:44:11
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:13:28 -0700 (PDT), The Historian
<[email protected] > wrote:
>My question is, who among the Trolgarista knew about this? P Innes has
>been very quiet this morning.
Currently, over in USCF Moderated Forum land, MarkNibb is fretting
over who leaked the data and unauthorized publication of USCF data.
Kinda like worrying about some gravy stains on the lapel of a
blood-stained coat with bullet-holes.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 17:27:03
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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The Historian wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:59 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Javert wrote:
>>> On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>>>>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
>>>>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
>>>>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
>>>>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>>>>> Did you get the file without any problems?
>>>> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
>>>> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>>>>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
>>>>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
>>>>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
>>>>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
>>>>> Susan.
>>>> This will make one hell of a novel!
>>> I was able to download it, no problem.
>>> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>>> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>>> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>>> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>>> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>>> I'm shocked.
>> Add to that appearance fees for the woman who, according to Trolgar, has
>> her schedule booked two years in advance. I have a feeling this is
>> going to get very messy. Does anyone have a list of publications and
>> publication dates. Doesn't she have a DVD chess series, endorsements of
>> chess sets with House of Staunton and others? Does Truong legally share
>> in any of this?
>
> My question is, who among the Trolgarista knew about this? P Innes has
> been very quiet this morning.
Didn't Phil admit to knowing that Trolgar was married long before that
was generally known?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 10:02:16
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 11:29 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:24 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 29, 11:10 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:10 -0700 (PDT), The Historian
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >On Jul 29, 10:59 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> >I was able to download it, no problem.
> > > >> >I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> > > >> >because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> > > >> >them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> > > >> >Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> > > >> >When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
> > > >> >I'm shocked.
> > > >> But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
> > > >> bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
> > > >> knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
> > > >But wasn't it discharged? It's a little late, isn't it? Everyone
> > > >signed off on the agreement.
>
> > > I doubt that it works that way if there was concealment, but I'll
> > > defer to the legal beagles.
>
> > I suppose if one of the folks Truong owed money to files to reopen the
> > case..... Did that report have creditor's addresses, Sam?
>
> You still have not downloaded it.
>
> Yes, it did.
>
> Sam Sloan
OK, got it now. Is there a prize for the first person to find a red
flag in it?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 09:29:46
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 11:24 am, The Historian <[email protected] >
wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:10 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:10 -0700 (PDT), The Historian
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >On Jul 29, 10:59 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >I was able to download it, no problem.
> > >> >I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> > >> >because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> > >> >them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> > >> >Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> > >> >When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
> > >> >I'm shocked.
> > >> But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
> > >> bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
> > >> knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
> > >But wasn't it discharged? It's a little late, isn't it? Everyone
> > >signed off on the agreement.
>
> > I doubt that it works that way if there was concealment, but I'll
> > defer to the legal beagles.
>
> I suppose if one of the folks Truong owed money to files to reopen the
> case..... Did that report have creditor's addresses, Sam?
You still have not downloaded it.
Yes, it did.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 09:44:07
From: J.D. Walker
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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samsloan wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:24 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On Jul 29, 11:10 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:10 -0700 (PDT), The Historian
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 29, 10:59 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I was able to download it, no problem.
>>>>>> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>>>>>> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>>>>>> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>>>>>> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>>>>>> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>>>>>> I'm shocked.
>>>>> But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
>>>>> bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
>>>>> knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
>>>> But wasn't it discharged? It's a little late, isn't it? Everyone
>>>> signed off on the agreement.
>>> I doubt that it works that way if there was concealment, but I'll
>>> defer to the legal beagles.
>> I suppose if one of the folks Truong owed money to files to reopen the
>> case..... Did that report have creditor's addresses, Sam?
>
> You still have not downloaded it.
>
> Yes, it did.
>
> Sam Sloan
I agree that this is all quite shocking. I have started several
messages and then ash canned them as I respond to a torrent of feelings.
I will only say that I believe it is time for Ms. Polgar's true friends
to step up and give her some good advice. She evidently has not gotten
nor listened to any up to this point.
--
"Do that which is right..."
Rev. J.D. Walker
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 09:24:33
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 11:10 am, Mike Murray <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:10 -0700 (PDT), The Historian
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Jul 29, 10:59 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >I was able to download it, no problem.
> >> >I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> >> >because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> >> >them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> >> >Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> >> >When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
> >> >I'm shocked.
> >> But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
> >> bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
> >> knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
> >But wasn't it discharged? It's a little late, isn't it? Everyone
> >signed off on the agreement.
>
> I doubt that it works that way if there was concealment, but I'll
> defer to the legal beagles.
I suppose if one of the folks Truong owed money to files to reopen the
case..... Did that report have creditor's addresses, Sam?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 09:03:10
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 10:59 am, Mike Murray <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I was able to download it, no problem.
> >I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> >because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> >them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> >Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> >When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
> >I'm shocked.
>
> But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
> bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
> knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
But wasn't it discharged? It's a little late, isn't it? Everyone
signed off on the agreement.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 16:54:18
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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The Historian wrote:
> On Jul 29, 10:59 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I was able to download it, no problem.
>>> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>>> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>>> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>>> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>>> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>>> I'm shocked.
>> But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
>> bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
>> knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
>
> But wasn't it discharged? It's a little late, isn't it? Everyone
> signed off on the agreement.
No it isn't. Discharge is not an agreement. It is an order of the
Bankruptcy Judge discharging the petitioner's debt under bankruptcy law.
Even after the discharge, a bankruptcy judge would be interested and
not at all pleased if the underlying petition was fraudulent. IIRC, such
a fraud is a felony and US Attorneys are VERY interested in fraud
perpetrated against the courts of the United States.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 09:10:16
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:10 -0700 (PDT), The Historian
<[email protected] > wrote:
>On Jul 29, 10:59 am, Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >I was able to download it, no problem.
>> >I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>> >because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>> >them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>> >Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>> >When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>> >I'm shocked.
>> But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
>> bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
>> knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
>But wasn't it discharged? It's a little late, isn't it? Everyone
>signed off on the agreement.
I doubt that it works that way if there was concealment, but I'll
defer to the legal beagles.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14
From: Javert
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
|
On Jul 29, 11:38=A0am, The Historian <[email protected] >
wrote:
> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>
> > > > Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expi=
re.
>
> > > > If there is any problem, let me know.
>
> > > Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
> > > electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>
> > Did you get the file without any problems?
>
> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>
> > Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
> > for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
> > when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
> > Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
> > Susan.
>
> This will make one hell of a novel!
I was able to download it, no problem.
I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
I'm shocked.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 15:46:19
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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"Javert" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:804edce9-0acb-4316-9980-f9e87b539b3f@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected] >
wrote:
> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>
> > > > Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will
> > > > expire.
>
> > > > If there is any problem, let me know.
>
> > > Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
> > > electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>
> > Did you get the file without any problems?
>
> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>
> > Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
> > for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
> > when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
> > Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
> > Susan.
>
> This will make one hell of a novel!
I was able to download it, no problem.
I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
I'm shocked.
**One possibility is that the couple were not ripping-off others as much as
has been very loudly supposed! You know by whom - the same people now making
all the noise. Another is that it is expensive to have children, and to
relocate half ways across the country. What exactly this has to do with
anyone else here, or anyone anywhere, is yet to be said as a matter of
decent public concern, but I note that the main protagonists of the issue
are hardly models of openness about their own orientations and actions. Phil
Innes
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 16:22:52
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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> I am frankly quite stunned.
Worse, you are easily fooled and prone to attempting to impose your
stupidity on others to the point of insulting those who don't bend to your
flawed viewpoint.
--
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make
from what they teach.
Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187
Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 15:29:28
From: Frisco Del Rosario
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
|
In article <[email protected] >,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote:
> prone to attempting to impose your
> stupidity on others to the point of insulting those who don't bend to your
> flawed viewpoint.
Irony meters should be built to resist the narcissistic personality
disordered, because NPD loons just blow the shit out of them every time
they touch a keyboard.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 19:07:04
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
|
Will the previous poster give me contact information to serve him with legal
process, or do I have to subpoena it?
--
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make
from what they teach.
Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187
Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 13:01:11
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
|
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:46:19 -0400, "Chess One" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>**One possibility is that the couple were not ripping-off others as much as
>has been very loudly supposed!
You mean, a legal evasion is not defined as "ripping-off"? Yeah,
quite true, I suppose.
>... Another is that it is expensive to have children,
$1250 per month, from what I read.
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 19:53:05
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
|
Chess One wrote:
.
>
> **One possibility is that the couple were not ripping-off others as much as
> has been very loudly supposed! You know by whom - the same people now making
> all the noise. Another is that it is expensive to have children, and to
> relocate half ways across the country.
That has NOTHING to do with Mr. Truong's debts and bankruptcy. It's a
bullshit response and nothing more., Phil. But, since you're on a roll,
do explain the 1992 banruptcy in Chicago.
>What exactly this has to do with
> anyone else here, or anyone anywhere, is yet to be said as a matter of
> decent public concern, but I note that the main protagonists of the issue
> are hardly models of openness about their own orientations and actions. Phil
> Innes
What this has to do with all of us here and in the USCF is this, Phil
This is the text of a post that I have submitted to the USCF Issues Forum:
Preview: Truong Discharged In Bankruptcy
Mr. Truong, in the midst of last year's election campaign, in mid-June,
2007 filed a Petition for Chapter 7 Voluntary Bankruptcy with the
Federal Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of New York. I have a
copy of that Petition and will make it available to anyone who wants
to read it. It is in pdf format.
Send me a PM with your email, and I will send you the Petition.
During that campaign, Mr. Truong made numerous claims about his success
in the business word, particularly in the area of Marketing. What
follows are excerpts taken from an interview he gave with Chesville:
From FChessvile, - from two
interviews:
*********
8. Some questions pertaining to yourself, and allying with the
FSS material, relate to your history. Can you tell us which companies
you have worked with, what roles you played as consultant with them,
and also to restate your academic and chessic qualification.
Due to some security issues as well as my NDA with various
parties, I can only make this generic. After college in 1987, I
worked for a number of multimillion and multibillion dollar
corporations in the capacity of Marketing Manager, Senior Marketing
Manager, Assistant Branch Manager, Branch / Regional Manager and VP of
Marketing.
I was these companies� youngest Manager, Senior Manager, Branch /
Regional Manager and VP. I was also the top producer in every
operation I managed. Some of my duties included recruiting,
interviewing, hiring, training, marketing, promoting, and PR. After
around 15 years of having an incredibly hectic schedule, my traveling
commitment became too much. Therefore, I decided to retire from the
business at the end of 2001.
I am a USCF Life Master and my rating has never dipped below 2200
since I broke the 2200 mark in America when I was around 15-16. I am
also a FIDE Master, and my peak FIDE rating was around 2400 in the mid
1980s. I won four national junior championships (under-21) in South
Vietnam and five overall national championships. Of course South
Vietnam in the 70�s was not a chess power house but I am still proud
of what I achieved.
When I came to America, I started the second half of 9th grade in
northern New Jersey, then went to college for four years in
Westchester County on full chess / athletic scholarship. My main
major is in Computers, but I also have minors in Marketing and
Business. I never actually worked in computers on a professional
level because I enjoy Marketing a lot better.
**********
Taking chess to the many levels above where we are today. I have big
dreams for our sport. I have big marketing success in other fields.
Now I want to do it for the game I love with a passion. Why don�t you
ask me the same question five years from now and then I can clearly
show you what I am able to do. Talk is cheap. It�s best to show by
results.
**********
I got started in my professional career right out of college. Even
though my main major was in computers, I decided to work in the field
of Marketing right out of college. I love computers, technology and
programming. I was a Systems Analyst by trade. But I enjoy working
with people even more. That was my reason for working in Marketing.
My philosophy is to work harder than anyone else. I always give
everything I do 150%. Within six months I became the youngest
marketing manager in the history of the company. Within a year, I
became the youngest ever senior manager. At the age of 22, I opened
my first of a number of companies. I put in up to 16-18 hours a day,
seven days a week, for 15 years. There was no short cut. My secret
has always been hard work as well as doing everything professionally.
************
*Mr. Truong claims he worked his successful company for 15 years,
roughly 1987-2001, when he claims to have retired from business.
Interestingly, the Pacer system that tracks federal court filings show
that Mr. Truong was discharged in Bankruptcy in Chicago in 1992, right
in the midst of running his successful company.
It is my opinion that the failure to disclose these two bankruptcy
discharges during the election campaign was an omission of a material
fact on which many in the USCF electorate relied, to their detriment, in
voting for Mr. Truong. Mr. Truong should resign immediately.*
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 16:59:54
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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Javert wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:38 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>>>>> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
>>>>> If there is any problem, let me know.
>>>> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
>>>> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>>> Did you get the file without any problems?
>> I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
>> the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
>>
>>> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
>>> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
>>> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
>>> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
>>> Susan.
>> This will make one hell of a novel!
>
> I was able to download it, no problem.
>
> I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
> because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
> them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
> Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
> When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>
> I'm shocked.
>
Add to that appearance fees for the woman who, according to Trolgar, has
her schedule booked two years in advance. I have a feeling this is
going to get very messy. Does anyone have a list of publications and
publication dates. Doesn't she have a DVD chess series, endorsements of
chess sets with House of Staunton and others? Does Truong legally share
in any of this?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 08:59:06
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Javert
<[email protected] > wrote:
>I was able to download it, no problem.
>I am frankly quite stunned. I am suffering from cognitive dissonance
>because I can't believe that other than child support that the two of
>them had that little income a month. What with the Polgar Chess
>Center, Susan's books, Chess Life articles there is no other income?
>When was the World Cup of Chess, was there no prize money for that?
>I'm shocked.
But, wouldn't failing to disclose income and assets make the
bankruptcy court, uh....., sort of irritated? Like one might get the
knuckles rapped.... with a 2 by 4 ?
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 08:38:03
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 10:28 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>
> > > Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
>
> > > If there is any problem, let me know.
>
> > Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
> > electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
>
> Did you get the file without any problems?
I didn't try downloading it. I was pointing out a possible response by
the Trolgar's Department of Dirty Tricks.
> Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
> for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
> when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
> Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
> Susan.
This will make one hell of a novel!
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 08:28:40
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 11:23 am, The Historian <[email protected] >
wrote:
> On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>
> > Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
>
> > If there is any problem, let me know.
>
> Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
> electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
Did you get the file without any problems?
Think about the fact that it shows Susan Polgar paid the filing fee
for Truong's bankruptcy petition. This proves that Susan was lying
when she said that Truong was a financial wizard. Turns out that
Susan's ex-husband Jacob Shutzman was supporting both Truong and
Susan.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 08:23:41
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Here is the Paul Truong Bankruptcy Petition
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On Jul 29, 10:04 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01HNU1FNkdJMHRjR0E9PQ
>
> Better be fast. This is limited to 100 downloads. Then it will expire.
>
> If there is any problem, let me know.
Cue for a frenzy of downloading in Lubbock and Brattleboro. It's the
electronic version of buying all copies of the local newspaper.
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