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Date: 05 Oct 2008 23:09:15
From: Sanny
Subject: How good is Vienna Opening (Sac of Knight)
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GetClub Easy Level played against "Par Excellence" the Vienna Opening
1. e4 e5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 exf4
4. Nf3 g5
5. Bc4 g4
6. O-O gxf3
Here White sacrifices a Knight.
Even though white was a Knight down GetClub Easy Level was able to win
the game.
But was that win because of poor play by "Par Excellence" or this
opening is correct.
Here is the Complete game. Which GetClub win the game in just 23
moves.
Game Played between Par Excellence and easy at GetClub.com
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Par Excellence: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM28426&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(easy) -- (Par Excellence)
1. e2-e4{0} e7-e5{16}
2. Nb1-c3{0} Nb8-c6{10}
3. f2-f4{0} e5-f4{10}
4. Ng1-f3{0} g7-g5{10}
5. Bf1-c4{0} g5-g4{108}
6. Ke1-g1{0} g4-f3{98}
7. Qd1-f3{72} Qd8-f6{32}
8. Nc3-d5{90} Qf6-d4{12}
9. Kg1-h1{24} Nc6-e5{44}
10. Qf3-f4{32} Bf8-d6{44}
11. d2-d3{42} h7-h5{102}
12. c2-c3{136} Qd4-c5{12}
13. d3-d4{56} Qc5-c4{96}
14. d4-e5{50} Rh8-h7{28}
15. e5-d6{120} c7-d6{48}
16. Qf4-f5{42} Rh7-g7{116}
17. Rf1-f4{0} Qc4-e2{168}
18. Rf4-f2{28} Qe2-d1{98}
19. Rf2-f1{0} Qd1-e2{76}
20. Bc1-g5{44} Ke8-f8{106}
21. Qf5-f4{54} f7-f6{18}
22. Nd5-f6{58} Ng8-f6{188}
23. Qf4-f6{4}
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Par Excellence: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM28426&game=Chess
Is the opening of Knight Sacrifice correct opening.
Why was GetClub able to win the game despite being a knight down?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 06 Oct 2008 23:37:05
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: A tinge of sa(r)c(asm) / Re: How good is Vienna Opening (Sac of
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On Oct 6, 12:46 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Other chess aphorisms you should program into GetClub include:
>
> Develop your queen as soon as possible.
open like a saint
don't be mean
knights can wait
move your queen
Wlod
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Date: 06 Oct 2008 13:44:23
From: none
Subject: Re: How good is Vienna Opening (Sac of Knight)
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On Oct 6, 3:46=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2:09=A0am, Sanny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > GetClub Easy Level played against "Par Excellence" the Vienna Opening
>
> > 1. e4 =A0 e5
> > 2. Nc3 =A0Nc6
> > 3. f4 =A0 exf4
> > 4. Nf3 =A0g5
> > 5. Bc4 =A0g4
> > 6. O-O =A0gxf3
>
> > Here White sacrifices a Knight.
>
> > Even though white was a Knight down GetClub Easy Level was able to win
> > the game.
>
> > But was that win because of poor play by "Par Excellence" or this
> > opening is correct.
>
> > Here is the Complete game. Which GetClub win the game in just 23
> > moves.
>
> > Game Played between Par Excellence and easy at GetClub.com
>
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----=AD=AD-----
> > Par Excellence: (Black)
> > easy: (White)
> > Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> > View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM28426&gam=
e=3DChess
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----=AD=AD-----
>
> > White -- Black
> > (easy) -- (Par Excellence)
>
> > 1. e2-e4{0} e7-e5{16}
> > 2. Nb1-c3{0} Nb8-c6{10}
> > 3. f2-f4{0} e5-f4{10}
> > 4. Ng1-f3{0} g7-g5{10}
> > 5. Bf1-c4{0} g5-g4{108}
> > 6. Ke1-g1{0} g4-f3{98}
> > 7. Qd1-f3{72} Qd8-f6{32}
> > 8. Nc3-d5{90} Qf6-d4{12}
> > 9. Kg1-h1{24} Nc6-e5{44}
> > 10. Qf3-f4{32} Bf8-d6{44}
> > 11. d2-d3{42} h7-h5{102}
> > 12. c2-c3{136} Qd4-c5{12}
> > 13. d3-d4{56} Qc5-c4{96}
> > 14. d4-e5{50} Rh8-h7{28}
> > 15. e5-d6{120} c7-d6{48}
> > 16. Qf4-f5{42} Rh7-g7{116}
> > 17. Rf1-f4{0} Qc4-e2{168}
> > 18. Rf4-f2{28} Qe2-d1{98}
> > 19. Rf2-f1{0} Qd1-e2{76}
> > 20. Bc1-g5{44} Ke8-f8{106}
> > 21. Qf5-f4{54} f7-f6{18}
> > 22. Nd5-f6{58} Ng8-f6{188}
> > 23. Qf4-f6{4}
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----=AD=AD-----
> > =A0Par Excellence: (Black)
> > easy: (White)
> > Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> > View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM28426&gam=
e=3DChess
>
> > Is the opening of Knight Sacrifice correct opening.
>
> > Why was GetClub able to win the game despite being a knight down?
>
> =A0 Sanny, every Russian schoolboy knows that all sacrifices are sound.
> Other chess aphorisms you should program into GetClub include:
>
> =A0 Develop your queen as soon as possible.
> =A0 Develop rooks before knights and bishops.
> =A0 A knight on the rim is full of vim.
> =A0 No rook-and-pawn endgame is drawn.
> =A0 Rooks belong in front of passed pawns.
> =A0 Castling is for sissies.
> =A0 Avoid eye contact with your opponent.
> =A0 If there are no eyes, avoid all contact.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Also, quickly get your king into the center where it can control more
squares
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Date: 06 Oct 2008 12:46:40
From:
Subject: Re: How good is Vienna Opening (Sac of Knight)
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On Oct 6, 2:09=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> GetClub Easy Level played against "Par Excellence" the Vienna Opening
>
> 1. e4 =A0 e5
> 2. Nc3 =A0Nc6
> 3. f4 =A0 exf4
> 4. Nf3 =A0g5
> 5. Bc4 =A0g4
> 6. O-O =A0gxf3
>
> Here White sacrifices a Knight.
>
> Even though white was a Knight down GetClub Easy Level was able to win
> the game.
>
> But was that win because of poor play by "Par Excellence" or this
> opening is correct.
>
> Here is the Complete game. Which GetClub win the game in just 23
> moves.
>
> Game Played between Par Excellence and easy at GetClub.com
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--=AD-----
> Par Excellence: (Black)
> easy: (White)
> Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM28426&game=
=3DChess
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--=AD-----
>
> White -- Black
> (easy) -- (Par Excellence)
>
> 1. e2-e4{0} e7-e5{16}
> 2. Nb1-c3{0} Nb8-c6{10}
> 3. f2-f4{0} e5-f4{10}
> 4. Ng1-f3{0} g7-g5{10}
> 5. Bf1-c4{0} g5-g4{108}
> 6. Ke1-g1{0} g4-f3{98}
> 7. Qd1-f3{72} Qd8-f6{32}
> 8. Nc3-d5{90} Qf6-d4{12}
> 9. Kg1-h1{24} Nc6-e5{44}
> 10. Qf3-f4{32} Bf8-d6{44}
> 11. d2-d3{42} h7-h5{102}
> 12. c2-c3{136} Qd4-c5{12}
> 13. d3-d4{56} Qc5-c4{96}
> 14. d4-e5{50} Rh8-h7{28}
> 15. e5-d6{120} c7-d6{48}
> 16. Qf4-f5{42} Rh7-g7{116}
> 17. Rf1-f4{0} Qc4-e2{168}
> 18. Rf4-f2{28} Qe2-d1{98}
> 19. Rf2-f1{0} Qd1-e2{76}
> 20. Bc1-g5{44} Ke8-f8{106}
> 21. Qf5-f4{54} f7-f6{18}
> 22. Nd5-f6{58} Ng8-f6{188}
> 23. Qf4-f6{4}
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--=AD-----
> =A0Par Excellence: (Black)
> easy: (White)
> Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM28426&game=
=3DChess
>
> Is the opening of Knight Sacrifice correct opening.
>
> Why was GetClub able to win the game despite being a knight down?
Sanny, every Russian schoolboy knows that all sacrifices are sound.
Other chess aphorisms you should program into GetClub include:
Develop your queen as soon as possible.
Develop rooks before knights and bishops.
A knight on the rim is full of vim.
No rook-and-pawn endgame is drawn.
Rooks belong in front of passed pawns.
Castling is for sissies.
Avoid eye contact with your opponent.
If there are no eyes, avoid all contact.
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Date: 06 Oct 2008 16:53:53
From: John Salerno
Subject: Re: How good is Vienna Opening (Sac of Knight)
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<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:087efa38-dede-4f7e-8662-af952c754106@u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> If there are no eyes, avoid all contact.
I think that one is safe to adopt. :)
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Date: 06 Oct 2008 11:29:21
From: zzz
Subject: Re: How good is Vienna Opening (Sac of Knight)
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> Is the opening of Knight Sacrifice correct opening.
>
> Why was GetClub able to win the game despite being a knight down?
Because here - unlike in most of the other games where it throws away
material - GC actually received decent compensation for the sacrificed
knight in the form of rapid development of its pieces and a strong
attack against black's weakened king position.
Whether it should objectively have been enough for an advantage or
even equality, I can't say. I'll leave that to the experts.
After 5 Bc4 Par Excellence was out of its opening book and the tactics
in the resulting position were beyond its ancient hardware's move
horizon.
Against stronger oposition, the gambit may not hold up, but then again
GC will most likely lose against a good player no matter what opening
it plays.
So you might as well leave it in. At least you're chess engine managed
to produce a decent game with it - even though Messrs. Hamppe and
Muzio deserve some of the credit as well ;-)
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Date: 05 Oct 2008 23:36:05
From: SBD
Subject: Re: How good is Vienna Opening (Sac of Knight)
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On Oct 6, 1:09=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> Is the opening of Knight Sacrifice correct opening.
READ A DAMN CHESS BOOK OR TWO.
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