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Date: 21 Dec 2007 16:52:25
From: Anonymous
Subject: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
mental institutions and posting from there.





 
Date: 22 Dec 2007 17:08:34
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
On Dec 22, 6:38 am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
> > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
> > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
> > mental institutions and posting from there.
>
> Are you afraid that your food ration will be reduced when
> two more guys are assigned to your institution? Ask
> them to feed you extra from the money they'll get by
> selling the PC which you are using. (Anonymous monkeys
> like you don't need no PC).

That's a rather clumsy "reading". My take is that
Mr. Anonymous is concerned for the well-being of the
taxpayers, the general public who financially support
mental institutions. It's fairly obvious that Anon. has
taken a nasty hit in the wallet, and wants taxes
lowered--- not just for himself, but for everyone; he
sounds like one of those Libertarians, who detest big
government-- or rather, /paying for/ big government.

Oh, and don't worry: they never assign more than
one chess player to the same ward; MAJOR ego
issues, you see... .


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Date: 22 Dec 2007 03:38:42
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected] > wrote:
> Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
> in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
> themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
> mental institutions and posting from there.

Are you afraid that your food ration will be reduced when
two more guys are assigned to your institution? Ask
them to feed you extra from the money they'll get by
selling the PC which you are using. (Anonymous monkeys
like you don't need no PC).

Wlod


 
Date: 22 Dec 2007 01:18:29
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
On Dec 21, 10:14 pm, Louis Blair <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
> > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
> > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
> > mental institutions and posting from there.
>
> _
> On Dec 21, 9:22 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES
>
> > Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous.
>
> _
> Does Larry Parr feel that way about jr?

Mr. Parr has mentioned or quoted Larry Evans
as reading these newsgroups, and apparently,
on occasion dipping his toes in by making the
occasional post, either directly or through an
intermediary. It seems obvious that when a
random "supporter" -- if mindless dregs can be
so described -- comes along, Mr. Parr welcomes
him with open arms, anon. or not; and three
minutes later, while in the middle of an attack
on some anonymous critic, it becomes apparent
to everyone else that Mr. Parr has just skewered
his own man, the titanic hypocrisy screams out
for an apology... which never comes.

As I've noted before, these frequent /internal
inconsistencies/ are the hallk of a confused
mind. This confusion explains how an otherwise
perfectly-sane person can readily "adopt" anon.
supporters, while at the same time hating and
fearing anons; how an otherwise perfectly-sane
person can feign offense at a miscalculation by
Taylor Kingston, but at the same time accept
and support invented ratings and titles by his
own underling. It explains Mr. Parr's tendency
to /project/ jealousies and fears, his fixation on
cowardice, and it even sheds light on why Mr.
Sloan is always the preferred defender of the
pack (over nearly-an-IM Innes).

For those who may not recall, "jr" is the
moniker of an infrequent poster who parroted
Mr. Parr's opinions some time back. When
attacked for his anonymity, he, like many
critics of the Evans ratpack, remained silent.

One could assume that "jr" was just a fake
name created by Mr. Parr to -- as he likes to
put it -- lend /heft/ to his quirky opinions; others
might just figure that "jr" was an associate of
Larry Evans, or perhaps the five-time U.S.
champ himself. But these anon. "hefties" appear
to do Mr. Parr a grave disservice, by calling
attention to his many titanic hypocrisies, in the
same way that nearly-an-IM Innes has done.

Mr. Anonymous at top seems to feel that
posters like Sam Sloan and nearly-Innes are
nuisances. I find it amusing that someone with
such a "messy life" as SS would want to air
every sordid detail in public, just to garner more
attention. As for nearly-Innes, he seems to fit
perfectly the mold posted here recently, where a
definition of "kook" or internet.kook was described
in some detail. Are "kooks" mere nuisances? Or
do they serve a valuable entertainment function as
well.


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Date: 21 Dec 2007 19:14:08
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected] > wrote:
> Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
> in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
> themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
> mental institutions and posting from there.

_
On Dec 21, 9:22=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES
>
> Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous.

_
Does Larry Parr feel that way about jr?


 
Date: 21 Dec 2007 17:27:30
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
On Dec 21, 12:22 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:

> Anonymous wrote:

> > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
> > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
> > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
> > mental institutions and posting from there.

I have to say that now, I am beginning to
understand why IM Innes is paid so little for
his "protection services"; indeed, when one's
guard dog must in turn be "defended" so often,
it would not be fair to pretend that is not a
service rendered in-kind.

It's like many of my chess games, where an
error by my opponent is canceled out by an
error in return, netting little advantage for
either side. Tit-for-tat.

As for Anonymous, I have my suspicions as
to his "secret" identity (if indeed, he is but one
person). And I find it interesting that LP feels
compelled to ignore the issue raised by him,
and chooses to posit cowardice as motive for
his/her not posting under any real name (as if
Parrthenium were a real name).

This is hardly the first time that such issues
have deliberately been skirted by Larry Parr;
indeed, he makes a habit of ignoring the tough
questions, of skirting issues he cannot deal with
because they challenge his preconceptions; LP
is the poster-boy for duck and weave tactics, for
Skip-ping past challenges and inconsistencies,
in favor of easier activities like name-calling or
his typical ad hominem claptrap.

There was a clue in there, somewhere, BTW.
In fact, the whole spiel at the top regarding
mental institutions is another clue; but it is not
the American taxpayers who suffer; it is those
of our neighbors to the north. Drugs are the
answer; look at what they've done for one
poster, who now is (barely) able to refrain from
posting profanities. But the cost! Just one of
Skip's chill-pills can cost as much as five
cannucks, which adds up over time... .

Alas, if one were to weigh in the actions, not
the words of certain posters, cowardice would
indeed come to the forefront. Avoiding simple,
reasonable questions like those from Louis
Blair, for instance. Dr. Blair quite reasonably
asked Mr. Parr to tell us who his "backers"
were, the ones he claimed had, like him,
written certain stuff which was backed up by
these "others", in terms of numbers, or
presumed agreement of opinion. No answer
from Mr. Parr; not even after months and
months of honest inquiry. Cowardice indeed;
an intellectual cowardice, an inability to admit
error or back up one's own contentions. As
Anon wrote above-- sad. But hey, the man
supports himself, and by golly, he even feeds
monkeys on occasion. LOL


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Date: 21 Dec 2007 09:22:50
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES

Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous.

Anonymous wrote:
> Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
> in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
> themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
> mental institutions and posting from there.


  
Date: 22 Dec 2007 21:08:54
From: Anonymous Coward
Subject: EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES Are cowards who post here anonymously
In article <[email protected]
com >, [email protected] wrote:

> EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES
>
> Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous.
>
> Anonymous wrote:
> > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance
> > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support
> > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in
> > mental institutions and posting from there.

Response, encourage more abuses.
You may not be knowing that noise from your chess froups spilt over in to
anonymous-sender.com, alt.privacy.anon-server, the anonposting forums ect.
Probably not one Anonymous but many anons [besides me, who suscribed to
see what its about] are now making their 'contributions'. Troll traffic
in apa-s and asp has fallen since 2 months. They moved to rgcp/m? Please
keep them, asp doesnt need them back delivering their payload. :)
Most webanon service afaik allow posting to only one froup, no xpost. If
you email the admin of cotse.net [Lance, who does permit xposts via his
mixnews.php] anonymous-sender.com and max 1-2 others you can google they
may shut off post access to your froups for a time. Asskiss and email
full headers of obscene or illegal posts and you may get the senders IPs
fwiw as it is a breach of the webanon TOS. What ever is the disclaimer in
headers, tracing webanons is no problem for the admin because the message
was submitted in cleartext and proxy access to webanon sites are blocked.
Pseudonymous posts emailed direct to m2n usually use generics (Orwell,
Anonymous*, Remailer*, Wuehler,..) and always have a no-archive setting.
These too, whether emailed encrypted to the m2n key or in clear, have an
IP on the original email and are traced by asking the m2n's abuse-address.
Some add a X-NNTP-Posting-Host header with the IP or fragment if the post
is abusive. Some times a real anon adds this with special softwares for
to give misdirection. There are more anonymous technique but most/all your
trolls are not using them. I am, you can see in the postal headers.
Merry Christmas.
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