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Date: 24 May 2008 16:25:17
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Subject: Krush - a disgrace
Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQjXHjRkNQ







 
Date: 26 May 2008 00:32:44
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace
On May 25, 9:57=A0pm, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> On May 24, 4:25 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfNQjXHjRkNQ
>
> It was Krush's reactyion to
> someone laughing.
>
> The truly guilty party were the organizers.
>
> When the score of the two (or more)
> winners is equal then either they should
> be co-champions or they should play a real
> playoff match. To decide the classical
> championship by blitz was an idiotic
> idea. I can understand Krush in this
> situation.
>
> =A0 =A0 Wlod

I'm not sure if it was the laughing (from who? I can't tell) or just
everything that got to Krush. In any case they must abandon this
stupid way to break ties. If necessary, rent a room and send the
players and arbiters and a couple witnesses into it and have as many
non-blitz games as is needed to break the tie. Make other arrangements
as needed--postpone--whatever. Not this stupid blitz crap though.


 
Date: 25 May 2008 21:57:02
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace
On May 24, 4:25 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQjXHjRkNQ

It was Krush's reactyion to
someone laughing.

The truly guilty party were the organizers.

When the score of the two (or more)
winners is equal then either they should
be co-champions or they should play a real
playoff match. To decide the classical
championship by blitz was an idiotic
idea. I can understand Krush in this
situation.

Wlod


  
Date: 28 May 2008 08:48:33
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace

"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On May 24, 4:25 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQjXHjRkNQ
>
> It was Krush's reactyion to
> someone laughing.
>
> The truly guilty party were the organizers.
>
> When the score of the two (or more)
> winners is equal then either they should
> be co-champions or they should play a real
> playoff match. To decide the classical
> championship by blitz was an idiotic
> idea. I can understand Krush in this
> situation.

That seems to be the common sentiment.

I remember Kasparov saying that he doesn't play much blitz on-line because
he was 'not good with mouse.'

In this instance, it was not just the speed of play, but that as I
understand it, Krush already played out a 100 move game at regular time
control earlier, and that playoff game either started or ended [I'm not
sure] on the same day, 9 hours later.

Phil Innes

> Wlod




   
Date: 29 May 2008 01:34:34
From: nobody
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace
Chess One wrote:
>
> "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On May 24, 4:25 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >> Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQjXHjRkNQ
> >
> > It was Krush's reactyion to
> > someone laughing.
> >
> > The truly guilty party were the organizers.
> >
> > When the score of the two (or more)
> > winners is equal then either they should
> > be co-champions or they should play a real
> > playoff match. To decide the classical
> > championship by blitz was an idiotic
> > idea. I can understand Krush in this
> > situation.
>
> That seems to be the common sentiment.
>
> I remember Kasparov saying that he doesn't play much blitz on-line because
> he was 'not good with mouse.'
>
> In this instance, it was not just the speed of play, but that as I
> understand it, Krush already played out a 100 move game at regular time
> control earlier, and that playoff game either started or ended [I'm not
> sure] on the same day, 9 hours later.
>
> Phil Innes

Yes, the consensus seems to be as Wlod says they should have been
granted a proper playoff. It's a bit of the greater of two evils in this
instance, you do need the organisers but they've messed up badly this
time. Maybe they had to vacate the premises on the dot or something..

nobody..


 
Date: 25 May 2008 10:05:05
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace
On Sat, 24 May 2008 16:25:17 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:

>Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQjXHjRkNQ
>
>
I think it is a disgrace that a US champion is decided in this way.

EZoto


  
Date: 25 May 2008 09:20:59
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace

"EZoto" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Sat, 24 May 2008 16:25:17 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQjXHjRkNQ
>>
>>
> I think it is a disgrace that a US champion is decided in this way.

me too. the u-tube material looked like a pinball championship - krush was
obviously distressed that it should all be reduced to clock smacking, and
had played a 100 move game earlier that day - i think the final round took
place 9 hours later

the disgrace is not the player, but the format.

phil innes

> EZoto




 
Date: 25 May 2008 01:53:36
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace
On May 25, 3:57 am, "Gilles Garrigues" <[email protected] >
wrote:

> Yeah but she's a bit to young to do that.
> BTW once again we can see the stupidity of Blitz games without time
> increment. Pieces get knocked off, players make their move before the othe=
r
> one has made his (her) ...
>
> <[email protected]> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]m...
> On May 24, 7:25 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfNQjXHjRkNQ
>
> Whoop-ti-doo, like no one else has ever whacked his king across the
> room? Heck, she's just following in the footsteps of Alekhine (vs.
> Gr=FCnfeld at Vienna 1922) and Aron "Gegen diesen Idioten muss ich
> verlieren!" Nimzovitch.

On my computer, the action was too fast to
tell exactly what was going on... or who it was
that kept knocking pieces over and hitting the
clock (illegally) before replacing them.

I would prefer a top view of the board, and
slow-motion replay, so I can see the board
position. What I did notice is that one of the
two players kept reaching across the board
and pulling up her sleeve -- very distracting,
although I bet it detracted from her own
concentration as well as her opponent's --
*after* making each move.

Decades ago, I knew a player whose whole
modus operandi centered on such ploys...
deliberately knocking men over and then
fiddling with setting them back up which his
opponent's clock was running (how generous
of him). He was every bit as quick as these
two /appeared to be/ in my browser, with the
GetClub program hogging my CPU!


-- help bot





 
Date: 24 May 2008 17:13:21
From:
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace
On May 24, 7:25=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfNQjXHjRkNQ

Whoop-ti-doo, like no one else has ever whacked his king across the
room? Heck, she's just following in the footsteps of Alekhine (vs.
Gr=FCnfeld at Vienna 1922) and Aron "Gegen diesen Idioten muss ich
verlieren!" Nimzovitch.


  
Date: 25 May 2008 09:57:21
From: Gilles Garrigues
Subject: Re: Krush - a disgrace
Yeah but she's a bit to young to do that.
BTW once again we can see the stupidity of Blitz games without time
increment. Pieces get knocked off, players make their move before the other
one has made his (her) ...

<[email protected] > a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]m...
On May 24, 7:25 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Watch what she does at 1:10 of this video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQjXHjRkNQ

Whoop-ti-doo, like no one else has ever whacked his king across the
room? Heck, she's just following in the footsteps of Alekhine (vs.
Grünfeld at Vienna 1922) and Aron "Gegen diesen Idioten muss ich
verlieren!" Nimzovitch.