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Date: 26 Feb 2008 06:19:29
From: samsloan
Subject: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos again
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In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos
posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
I just now deleted 45 postings of videos and yesterday I deleted more
than 20.
Rob Mitchell was first suspended and then expelled from my group on
Apr 16, 2007 at 6:20 pm for refusing to reveal his identity, since
there are 26 present and former USCF members named Rob Mitchell.
Rob Mitchell has ever since been retaliating in numerous ways most
recently by posting unwanted videos there.
Now that Ray Gordon is suing Joel Channing because Jennifer Shahade
was hired instead of him, and Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell is
harassing me because he was not hired by the USCF as either Executive
Director or as Scholastic Coordinator, I have written to him the
following:
Rob, I had nothing to do with your failure to get a job working for
the USCF. You did not get the job because you FAILED THE INTERVIEW.
I had nothing to do with that.
Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
You were kicked out of my group not because you attacked me but
because you failed to identify yourself by revealing that you were the
One and Only Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 09:41:41
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 29, 11:26=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 29, 12:18 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 29, 8:32 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 29, 7:13 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Mr. Innes is in a class far beyond my own . He would dispatch Sloan
> > > > without much difficulty. I however, am another story. Lex (DP)
> > > > Mitchell is what he fears most. A DP( dangerous patzer) is an unknow=
n
> > > > entity. One he wisely avoids .
>
> > > Since I am offering to play you blindfolded for money, I am obviously
> > > not worried about having you as an opponent.
>
> > Then show us the 10k in cash , Sam. And log onto the website to play.
>
> I play chess, not websites.
What I have isn't important yet. Cause you got nuthin! LOL
I know.. I know what you play.
> By the way, where is your 10K ? Were you not the person who was asking
> for $35,000 front money to arrange a match with Bobby Fischer for $14
> million ?
>
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 09:26:09
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 29, 12:18 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 29, 8:32 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 29, 7:13 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Mr. Innes is in a class far beyond my own . He would dispatch Sloan
> > > without much difficulty. I however, am another story. Lex (DP)
> > > Mitchell is what he fears most. A DP( dangerous patzer) is an unknown
> > > entity. One he wisely avoids .
>
> > Since I am offering to play you blindfolded for money, I am obviously
> > not worried about having you as an opponent.
>
> Then show us the 10k in cash , Sam. And log onto the website to play.
I play chess, not websites.
By the way, where is your 10K ? Were you not the person who was asking
for $35,000 front money to arrange a match with Bobby Fischer for $14
million ?
Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 09:18:33
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 29, 8:32=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 29, 7:13 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Mr. Innes is in a class far beyond my own . He would dispatch Sloan
> > without much difficulty. I however, am another story. Lex (DP)
> > Mitchell is what he fears most. A DP( dangerous patzer) is an unknown
> > entity. One he wisely avoids .
>
> Since I am offering to play you blindfolded for money, I am obviously
> not worried about having you as an opponent.
Then show us the 10k in cash , Sam. And log onto the website to play.
> Phil Innes claims to have been a master in some other country before
> he got here. I have my doubts but it is possible that this is true. I
> am still willing to play him for money but I insist that I be allowed
> to see the board that we are playing on.
>
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 08:47:14
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 29, 9:32 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> Since I am offering to play you blindfolded for money, I am obviously
> not worried about having you as an opponent.
Okay, here goes: 1. N-K5 ?
if 1. ... f5 then 2. g4
or if 1. ... (any other) then 2. Nxf7 + Nxd8.
> Phil Innes claims to have been a master in some other country before
> he got here. I have my doubts but it is possible that this is true. I
> am still willing to play him for money but I insist that I be allowed
> to see the board that we are playing on.
Once Mr. Innes was caught lying about his
rating/title, he backed off to a new position in
which he merely insisted that he had results
in some offhand games which seemed to
possible indicate, perhaps, that he may have
once played at a level somewhere in the range
reflecting a possible strength in some imaginary
world of 2450 and nearly-an-IM. Which is not to
say that he still claims the title and rating as he
once did, before he was caught lying.
We do know this: nearly-IMnes now claims he
has the Rybka chess program, so he could be a
very dangerous opponent when placed near any
power outlet! His USCF rating? 2044 slow,
2005 quick. His *real* title? "USCF Expert,
semi-retired". Given the apparent decline in
his real ratings and the passing of time, along
with the deflationary trend in USCF's ratings
since then (1995), I am guessing the match
would be a very interesting one if played man
to man (excluding Rybka).
Another interesting match would be Rybka
minus QN vs. Sam Sloan.
-- help bot
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 08:23:36
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 29, 7:13 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Mr. Innes is in a class far beyond my own . He would dispatch Sloan
> without much difficulty.
"If he really believed he could, why not play?"
-- Rob "da robber" Mitchell
> I however, am another story. Lex (DP)
> Mitchell is what he fears most. A DP( dangerous patzer) is an unknown
> entity. One he wisely avoids .
Actually, he was reckless in offering to play
you *blindfolded*. Everyone knows that in such
games it is possible for a good player to lose
track of all the pieces, to overlook something
"obvious". This is why I studiously avoid
trading any of my three (yes, three) Knights
for as long as possible; just shift them around
and avoid being checkmated-- sooner or later
the blindfolded fellow will overlook a fork.
-- tricky bot
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 06:32:20
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 29, 7:13 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Mr. Innes is in a class far beyond my own . He would dispatch Sloan
> without much difficulty. I however, am another story. Lex (DP)
> Mitchell is what he fears most. A DP( dangerous patzer) is an unknown
> entity. One he wisely avoids .
Since I am offering to play you blindfolded for money, I am obviously
not worried about having you as an opponent.
Phil Innes claims to have been a master in some other country before
he got here. I have my doubts but it is possible that this is true. I
am still willing to play him for money but I insist that I be allowed
to see the board that we are playing on.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 04:13:03
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 29, 1:52 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 4:19 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Very true. If he really believed he could, why not play? But perhaps
> > he fears by cache' of "sloan-a-nite" Being "Lex" you would have to
> > know that I had some unusual power that would render Super Soupy Sloan
> > as weak as a babe over the board! Or perhaps in my alter guise as
> > "Which-Mitch" I will use my Brainiac mechanical implants to connect to
> > Kasparov!.
>
> Hey, what happened to GK? Did they let him
> go, or send him off to the gulag? The gulag
> would have a very strong chess team if so... .
>
> Look, you two need to realize that playing out
> of your class -- such as against SS -- is doomed
> to fail. Mr. Sloan is a battle-hardened gladiator
> in the chess world; he plays in OTB tourneys
> like the World Open, and nearly wins prizes--
> real money prizes!
>
> In round one, SS might face a patzer like one
> of you two; but then comes round two, and he
> might have to play a dangerous opponent, say a
> 1700. After that, it gets even tougher-- and there
> are still some more rounds left! At some point,
> after crushing a 1900 player with his patented
> Damiano's Defense, SS might even face off
> against a grandmaster; lucky for the GM, he
> has studied hard and so he has prepared an
> answer to the Macho Grob!
>
> -- help bot
Mr. Innes is in a class far beyond my own . He would dispatch Sloan
without much difficulty. I however, am another story. Lex (DP)
Mitchell is what he fears most. A DP( dangerous patzer) is an unknown
entity. One he wisely avoids .
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 23:52:51
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 4:19 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Very true. If he really believed he could, why not play? But perhaps
> he fears by cache' of "sloan-a-nite" Being "Lex" you would have to
> know that I had some unusual power that would render Super Soupy Sloan
> as weak as a babe over the board! Or perhaps in my alter guise as
> "Which-Mitch" I will use my Brainiac mechanical implants to connect to
> Kasparov!.
Hey, what happened to GK? Did they let him
go, or send him off to the gulag? The gulag
would have a very strong chess team if so... .
Look, you two need to realize that playing out
of your class -- such as against SS -- is doomed
to fail. Mr. Sloan is a battle-hardened gladiator
in the chess world; he plays in OTB tourneys
like the World Open, and nearly wins prizes--
real money prizes!
In round one, SS might face a patzer like one
of you two; but then comes round two, and he
might have to play a dangerous opponent, say a
1700. After that, it gets even tougher-- and there
are still some more rounds left! At some point,
after crushing a 1900 player with his patented
Damiano's Defense, SS might even face off
against a grandmaster; lucky for the GM, he
has studied hard and so he has prepared an
answer to the Macho Grob!
-- help bot
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 13:19:16
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 11:00=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Feb 28, 8:23 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> He wanted to play for money... so I told HIM to put up 10K cash to
> prove he is serious. Sloan refused. I also offered to play him online
> in correspondence chess at a rate more in line with his assetts( for
> free). He declined.
> It is obvious to all here who the real coward is.
>
> ----
> I don't think he is a coward, and besides, he will very likely beat you!
Very true. If he really believed he could, why not play? But perhaps
he fears by cache' of "sloan-a-nite" Being "Lex" you would have to
know that I had some unusual power that would render Super Soupy Sloan
as weak as a babe over the board! Or perhaps in my alter guise as
"Which-Mitch" I will use my Brainiac mechanical implants to connect to
Kasparov!.
> I
> just don't want to read more of the endless --I am *special*-- =A0
> considerations - not want, nor need.
>
> I probably played 800 games in the past year, against all comers - not eve=
n
> the blind guy from Yugoslavia rated 1930 wanted any special treatment. Slo=
an
> wants to seem like a man of the people, but he has to be the man and other=
s
> the people ;) Maybe he'll get to read about himself this week at Chessvill=
e,
> since I see his name occur several times in an interview with Paul Truong.=
>
> The other interview this week-end will be that with Mickey Adams - and I
> think he answered one of your questions, 4 or 5 from our Forum, plus half =
a
> dozen from grandmasters. Nothing *special* in the above sense about Mickey=
,
> who seems a genuinely modest, friendly and generous sort of guy.
>
> Phil Innes
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:50:57
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 9:41=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 11:18 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > =A0 That sounds like a very dangerous place to hang
> > > out. =A0Why not Chernobyl park instead? =A0Dresden
> > > gardens? =A0Hiroshima heights?
>
> > Do not make fun of Hiroshima around here.
>
> > My wife is from Hiroshima.
>
> =A0 Small world; do you know the name of the
> navy ship which delivered the bomb? =A0(The
> one that was sunk on its return trip.) =A0The
> USS *Indianapolis*... . =A0Freaky weird.
>
> =A0 -- Hosier bot
The Bomb name was Little Boy. It was dropped by a young pilot.
The worst thing designed by Technology killing millions of innocent
people. God hope there is no Nuclear war in the future.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:47:40
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 10:40=A0am, "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> I think Sam's beef, and I feel that it is a legitimate one, is that
> you would be able to use a computer for a correspondence match. Asking
> you to come to New York to play seems like too much of a burden on
> you, however.
>
> Would either Sam or Rob be willing to play a refereed match over the
> net for a cash challenge? I would be willing to referee the Nashville
> end, and New York may have a sufficiently large chess population so
> that we could find a referee on that end.
>
> As far as I can remember, I have never met Rob Mitchell, but I would
> be glad to have the privilege of meeting him. If I am not an
> acceptable referee, there are plenty of other players in Nashville I
> could suggest.
>
> Jerry Spinrad
>
> On Feb 28, 8:44=A0am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 8:23=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >news:e4be344d-c60f-4d67-b946-850ebb499182@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com.=
..
>
> > > > On Feb 27, 9:46 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Sloan also dodged the challenge of a team comprised of members of t=
his
> > > >> newsgroup [misc and politics] to just shut up and play chess like a=
n
> > > >> ordinary human being.
>
> > > >> Maybe a dozen people had a go at corres chess, in several different=
team
> > > >> formations - and against maybe 10 other teams.
>
> > > >> Now, maybe this doesn't make him a team player. It certainly doesn'=
t make
> > > >> him a chess player. You gotta do it to be one, otherwise you end up=
like
> > > >> the
> > > >> great non-playing hero, Fischer. When Fischer played with all other=
> > > >> players
> > > >> he seemed to keep his devils at bay, and at least his chess opinion=
s were
> > > >> interesting to read.
>
> > > >> That's a bit of cause and effect that Sam Sloan might consider.
>
> > > >> Phil Innes
>
> > > > I am willing to play you or Rob Mitchell any time for money.
>
> > > I am rarely interested in playing anyone for money.
>
> > > > I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that=
I
> > > > will have to be able to see the board.
>
> > > > So, just get into your boat in Vermont and sail it from Vermont down=
> > > > to New York City and we can play for money in Liberty Park across fr=
om
> > > > Ground Zero or in the Atrium at 60 Wall Street where USCF certified
> > > > arbiters are always available to referee the match.
>
> > > > In other words, put up or shut up.
>
> > > To play chess, or not, is your choice - I am not interested in your
> > > *special* needs, and self-exceptions, whether in chess or politics.
>
> > > Phil Innes
>
> > He wanted to play for money... so I told HIM to put up 10K cash to
> > prove he is serious. Sloan refused. I also offered to play him online
> > in correspondence chess at a rate more in line with his assetts( for
> > free). He declined.
> > It is obvious to all here who the real coward is.
> > His name is.. oh heck! What is his real name? He changes it all the
> > darn time. IMO, I guess since his family disowned him it really
> > doesn't matter- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
No problem from me.
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:41:30
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 11:18 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> > That sounds like a very dangerous place to hang
> > out. Why not Chernobyl park instead? Dresden
> > gardens? Hiroshima heights?
>
> Do not make fun of Hiroshima around here.
>
> My wife is from Hiroshima.
Small world; do you know the name of the
navy ship which delivered the bomb? (The
one that was sunk on its return trip.) The
USS *Indianapolis*... . Freaky weird.
-- Hosier bot
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:40:29
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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I think Sam's beef, and I feel that it is a legitimate one, is that
you would be able to use a computer for a correspondence match. Asking
you to come to New York to play seems like too much of a burden on
you, however.
Would either Sam or Rob be willing to play a refereed match over the
net for a cash challenge? I would be willing to referee the Nashville
end, and New York may have a sufficiently large chess population so
that we could find a referee on that end.
As far as I can remember, I have never met Rob Mitchell, but I would
be glad to have the privilege of meeting him. If I am not an
acceptable referee, there are plenty of other players in Nashville I
could suggest.
Jerry Spinrad
On Feb 28, 8:44=A0am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:23=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:e4be344d-c60f-4d67-b946-850ebb499182@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...=
>
> > > On Feb 27, 9:46 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Sloan also dodged the challenge of a team comprised of members of thi=
s
> > >> newsgroup [misc and politics] to just shut up and play chess like an
> > >> ordinary human being.
>
> > >> Maybe a dozen people had a go at corres chess, in several different t=
eam
> > >> formations - and against maybe 10 other teams.
>
> > >> Now, maybe this doesn't make him a team player. It certainly doesn't =
make
> > >> him a chess player. You gotta do it to be one, otherwise you end up l=
ike
> > >> the
> > >> great non-playing hero, Fischer. When Fischer played with all other
> > >> players
> > >> he seemed to keep his devils at bay, and at least his chess opinions =
were
> > >> interesting to read.
>
> > >> That's a bit of cause and effect that Sam Sloan might consider.
>
> > >> Phil Innes
>
> > > I am willing to play you or Rob Mitchell any time for money.
>
> > I am rarely interested in playing anyone for money.
>
> > > I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that I=
> > > will have to be able to see the board.
>
> > > So, just get into your boat in Vermont and sail it from Vermont down
> > > to New York City and we can play for money in Liberty Park across from=
> > > Ground Zero or in the Atrium at 60 Wall Street where USCF certified
> > > arbiters are always available to referee the match.
>
> > > In other words, put up or shut up.
>
> > To play chess, or not, is your choice - I am not interested in your
> > *special* needs, and self-exceptions, whether in chess or politics.
>
> > Phil Innes
>
> He wanted to play for money... so I told HIM to put up 10K cash to
> prove he is serious. Sloan refused. I also offered to play him online
> in correspondence chess at a rate more in line with his assetts( for
> free). He declined.
> It is obvious to all here who the real coward is.
> His name is.. oh heck! What is his real name? He changes it all the
> darn time. IMO, I guess since his family disowned him it really
> doesn't matter- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:18:29
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 10:09 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 9:44 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that I
> > > > will have to be able to see the board.
>
> > > > So, just get into your boat in Vermont and sail it from Vermont down
> > > > to New York City and we can play for money in Liberty Park across from
> > > > Ground Zero
>
> That sounds like a very dangerous place to hang
> out. Why not Chernobyl park instead? Dresden
> gardens? Hiroshima heights?
Do not make fun of Hiroshima around here.
My wife is from Hiroshima.
Her father was in Hiroshima when the A-bomb was dropped.
Born in Hiroshima, his teacher asked him to go to a factory away from
the center of the town that day to help out because there was a
shortage of men. When the bomb was dropped, his teacher and all the
other children in his class were incinerated except for a few other
kids who played hooky from school that day.
He is a hibakusha, meaning that he is an A-bomb survivor.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 07:09:50
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 9:44 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> > > I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that I
> > > will have to be able to see the board.
>
> > > So, just get into your boat in Vermont and sail it from Vermont down
> > > to New York City and we can play for money in Liberty Park across from
> > > Ground Zero
That sounds like a very dangerous place to hang
out. Why not Chernobyl park instead? Dresden
gardens? Hiroshima heights?
> He wanted to play for money... so I told HIM to put up 10K cash to
> prove he is serious. Sloan refused.
That's not fair! You priced him out by asking
for way too much money. Try again, only this
time only ask for what he makes in one year.
You do realize he is offering to play blindfolded,
right? That means he won't even know where
your pieces are-- you can take him; don't be
afraid!
-- help bot
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 07:01:13
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Correspondence Chess
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On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:
> >But I do like the superior quality of play-- or
> >at least, the opportunity for it.
>
> That's what attracts me to it. It's the best
> I can play against the best you can play.
>
> >Yet there is something sorely lacking... the
> >fierce battle of one mind against another...
>
> That's just plain wrong. Correspondence Chess
> is the ultimate battle of one mind against another!
Or of one mind + computer assistance against
just one mind?
> >the struggle against the clock...
>
> If that's the sort of thing you happen to like...
Not me... it was invented as a cure for those
who would refuse to move when losing! (As you
can see at GetClub, I have no trouble just
continuing to make more bad moves until one of
us two fishes loses.)
> Perhaps you should calm down and play a nice slow
> game of Correspondence Chess on the net... :)
Oh, I played a bunch of games after Rob
"da robber" Mitchell asked me to play. It
was very strange because not one of them
used a chess computer against me (this is
plainly evident from the fact that I won). : >D
-- help bot
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 06:44:38
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 28, 8:23=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:e4be344d-c60f-4d67-b946-850ebb499182@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 27, 9:46 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Sloan also dodged the challenge of a team comprised of members of this
> >> newsgroup [misc and politics] to just shut up and play chess like an
> >> ordinary human being.
>
> >> Maybe a dozen people had a go at corres chess, in several different tea=
m
> >> formations - and against maybe 10 other teams.
>
> >> Now, maybe this doesn't make him a team player. It certainly doesn't ma=
ke
> >> him a chess player. You gotta do it to be one, otherwise you end up lik=
e
> >> the
> >> great non-playing hero, Fischer. When Fischer played with all other
> >> players
> >> he seemed to keep his devils at bay, and at least his chess opinions we=
re
> >> interesting to read.
>
> >> That's a bit of cause and effect that Sam Sloan might consider.
>
> >> Phil Innes
>
> > I am willing to play you or Rob Mitchell any time for money.
>
> I am rarely interested in playing anyone for money.
>
> > I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that I
> > will have to be able to see the board.
>
> > So, just get into your boat in Vermont and sail it from Vermont down
> > to New York City and we can play for money in Liberty Park across from
> > Ground Zero or in the Atrium at 60 Wall Street where USCF certified
> > arbiters are always available to referee the match.
>
> > In other words, put up or shut up.
>
> To play chess, or not, is your choice - I am not interested in your
> *special* needs, and self-exceptions, whether in chess or politics.
>
> Phil Innes
>
>
He wanted to play for money... so I told HIM to put up 10K cash to
prove he is serious. Sloan refused. I also offered to play him online
in correspondence chess at a rate more in line with his assetts( for
free). He declined.
It is obvious to all here who the real coward is.
His name is.. oh heck! What is his real name? He changes it all the
darn time. IMO, I guess since his family disowned him it really
doesn't matter
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 12:00:50
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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"Rob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Feb 28, 8:23 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
He wanted to play for money... so I told HIM to put up 10K cash to
prove he is serious. Sloan refused. I also offered to play him online
in correspondence chess at a rate more in line with his assetts( for
free). He declined.
It is obvious to all here who the real coward is.
----
I don't think he is a coward, and besides, he will very likely beat you! I
just don't want to read more of the endless --I am *special*--
considerations - not want, nor need.
I probably played 800 games in the past year, against all comers - not even
the blind guy from Yugoslavia rated 1930 wanted any special treatment. Sloan
wants to seem like a man of the people, but he has to be the man and others
the people ;) Maybe he'll get to read about himself this week at Chessville,
since I see his name occur several times in an interview with Paul Truong.
The other interview this week-end will be that with Mickey Adams - and I
think he answered one of your questions, 4 or 5 from our Forum, plus half a
dozen from grandmasters. Nothing *special* in the above sense about Mickey,
who seems a genuinely modest, friendly and generous sort of guy.
Phil Innes
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 10:30:33
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Correspondence Chess
|
On Feb 27, 12:00=A0pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:
> help bot wrote:
> > =A0Correspondence chess is not to everyone's
> >liking. =A0First of all, there is no satisfaction in
> >watching the opponent squirm. =A0Secondly, it
> >really is not possible to know if you are facing
> >a man, a man and his chess book library, or
> >a man and his chess computer, or a man
> >and his chess computer and mega-base, etc.
> > =A0Indeed, it is the weak players who (now)
> >revel in correspondence style chess, because
> >now, finally, they are more able to compete
> >with their vast superiors! =A0The weak can hide
> >out from competing man-to-man over the
> >board; they are indeed the masters of duck
> >and weave, of bluff and guff.
>
> That is indeed a sad state of affairs. =A0I am
> glad that I got my Correspondence Rating back
> before there were chess computers. =A0 It's only
> a 1901, but it's an honest 1901. =A0Now I tend to
> only play slow games with people I work with.
>
> >One thing I don't like about correspondence
> >style of play is the dreadful slowness of it all;
> >sometimes the opponent might go on vacation,
> >and a game is put in limbo. =A0Even if he doesn't,
> >there is a noticeable slowdown when the poor
> >chap finds himself busted-- just like OTB, only
> >here it can drag on for weeks.
>
> And yet here you are, posting to USENET instead
> of IRC... <grin>
>
> >But I do like the superior quality of play-- or
> >at least, the opportunity for it.
>
> That's what attracts me to it. =A0It's the best
> I can play against the best you can play.
>
> >Yet there is something sorely lacking... the
> >fierce battle of one mind against another...
>
> That's just plain wrong. =A0Correspondence Chess
> is the ultimate battle of one mind against another!
>
> >the struggle against the clock...
>
> If that's the sort of thing you happen to like...
>
> >The spectators and their ridiculous expectations that
> >a high-rated player must have a clue what he is doing.
>
> With the Internet, it would be easy to be a
> Correspondence Chess spectator. =A0If not for the
> cheating...
>
>
>
>
>
> >All these things argue for playing chess in
> >person, or "OTB". =A0Yet there are drawbacks,
> >to be sure. =A0One problem is that of fatigue;
> >playing five rounds in one day? =A0 Lunacy!
> >Being required to drive for hours both before
> >and after an event, just to "get there" and
> >back home again... poor lighting... noisy
> >spectators... lousy food... Russian cheaters...
> >cameras... under-rated opponents... a lack
> >of free coffee... Russian spies everywhere...
> >conspiracies against me... bugs in the
> >lighting... mind-control devices... and did I
> >mention the noisy spectators? =A0They are
> >all against me, I tell you! =A0Um...er... .
>
> > =A0-- mad bot
>
> Perhaps you should calm down and play a nice slow
> game of Correspondence Chess on the net... :)
>
> --
> Guy Macon
> <http://www.guymacon.com/>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Guy,
Great post. I have played helpbot in online correspondence chess. He
handled me convincingly. I suspect cheating is less prevelant than one
might think. I even had the opportunity to play against a GM(otb
rated )
I would welcome a game or two with you anytime. Chess is always an
enjoyable enterprise, win or lose.
Rob
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 18:00:09
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Correspondence Chess
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help bot wrote:
> Correspondence chess is not to everyone's
>liking. First of all, there is no satisfaction in
>watching the opponent squirm. Secondly, it
>really is not possible to know if you are facing
>a man, a man and his chess book library, or
>a man and his chess computer, or a man
>and his chess computer and mega-base, etc.
> Indeed, it is the weak players who (now)
>revel in correspondence style chess, because
>now, finally, they are more able to compete
>with their vast superiors! The weak can hide
>out from competing man-to-man over the
>board; they are indeed the masters of duck
>and weave, of bluff and guff.
That is indeed a sad state of affairs. I am
glad that I got my Correspondence Rating back
before there were chess computers. It's only
a 1901, but it's an honest 1901. Now I tend to
only play slow games with people I work with.
>One thing I don't like about correspondence
>style of play is the dreadful slowness of it all;
>sometimes the opponent might go on vacation,
>and a game is put in limbo. Even if he doesn't,
>there is a noticeable slowdown when the poor
>chap finds himself busted-- just like OTB, only
>here it can drag on for weeks.
And yet here you are, posting to USENET instead
of IRC... <grin >
>But I do like the superior quality of play-- or
>at least, the opportunity for it.
That's what attracts me to it. It's the best
I can play against the best you can play.
>Yet there is something sorely lacking... the
>fierce battle of one mind against another...
That's just plain wrong. Correspondence Chess
is the ultimate battle of one mind against another!
>the struggle against the clock...
If that's the sort of thing you happen to like...
>The spectators and their ridiculous expectations that
>a high-rated player must have a clue what he is doing.
With the Internet, it would be easy to be a
Correspondence Chess spectator. If not for the
cheating...
>All these things argue for playing chess in
>person, or "OTB". Yet there are drawbacks,
>to be sure. One problem is that of fatigue;
>playing five rounds in one day? Lunacy!
>Being required to drive for hours both before
>and after an event, just to "get there" and
>back home again... poor lighting... noisy
>spectators... lousy food... Russian cheaters...
>cameras... under-rated opponents... a lack
>of free coffee... Russian spies everywhere...
>conspiracies against me... bugs in the
>lighting... mind-control devices... and did I
>mention the noisy spectators? They are
>all against me, I tell you! Um...er... .
>
> -- mad bot
Perhaps you should calm down and play a nice slow
game of Correspondence Chess on the net... :)
--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/ >
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 09:19:16
From: Sanny
Subject: Can you win at GetClub
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> I am willing to play you or Rob Mitchell any time for money.
>
> I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that I
> will have to be able to see the board.
Ok Best Player at GetClub "Help Bot" is unable to Win the Normal Level
at GetClub. So You can test your Playing Strength at GetClub Chess.
Can you both beat the Normal Level it plays moves in 1-2 min/Move.
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Lets See If Rob can win the Normal Level or not. And Whether Samsloan
can win Normal Level or not.
If both win the Normal Level then both have to beat the Master Level
5-10 min/Move. Whoever wins the Master Level will be declared winner.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 08:31:04
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 27, 9:46 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sloan also dodged the challenge of a team comprised of members of this
> newsgroup [misc and politics] to just shut up and play chess like an
> ordinary human being.
>
> Maybe a dozen people had a go at corres chess, in several different team
> formations - and against maybe 10 other teams.
>
> Now, maybe this doesn't make him a team player. It certainly doesn't make
> him a chess player. You gotta do it to be one, otherwise you end up like the
> great non-playing hero, Fischer. When Fischer played with all other players
> he seemed to keep his devils at bay, and at least his chess opinions were
> interesting to read.
>
> That's a bit of cause and effect that Sam Sloan might consider.
Correspondence chess is not to everyone's
liking. First of all, there is no satisfaction in
watching the opponent squirm. Secondly, it
really is not possible to know if you are facing
a man, a man and his chess book library, or
a man and his chess computer, or a man
and his chess computer and mega-base, etc.
Obviously, if you look at the rubbish that Mr.
Sloan plays, he doesn't want to mess with
anybody who has a chess computer or a
stack of opening books to hand! Thus, it is
only logical that Mr. Sloan will play in OTB
tournaments, but lack any desire to play
correspondence style chess.
Indeed, it is the weak players who (now)
revel in correspondence style chess, because
now, finally, they are more able to compete
with their vast superiors! The weak can hide
out from competing man-to-man over the
board; they are indeed the masters of duck
and weave, of bluff and guff.
One thing I don't like about correspondence
style of play is the dreadful slowness of it all;
sometimes the opponent might go on vacation,
and a game is put in limbo. Even if he doesn't,
there is a noticeable slowdown when the poor
chap finds himself busted-- just like OTB, only
here it can drag on for weeks. But I do like
the superior quality of play-- or at least, the
opportunity for it. Yet there is something
sorely lacking... the fierce battle of one mind
against another... the struggle against the
clock... the spectators and their ridiculous
expectations that a high-rated player must
have a clue what he is doing.
All these things argue for playing chess in
person, or "OTB". Yet there are drawbacks,
to be sure. One problem is that of fatigue;
playing five rounds in one day? Lunacy!
Being required to drive for hours both before
and after an event, just to "get there" and
back home again... poor lighting... noisy
spectators... lousy food... Russian cheaters...
cameras... under-rated opponents... a lack
of free coffee... Russian spies everywhere...
conspiracies against me... bugs in the
lighting... mind-control devices... and did I
mention the noisy spectators? They are
all against me, I tell you! Um...er... .
-- mad bot
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 08:29:24
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 27, 9:46 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sloan also dodged the challenge of a team comprised of members of this
> newsgroup [misc and politics] to just shut up and play chess like an
> ordinary human being.
>
> Maybe a dozen people had a go at corres chess, in several different team
> formations - and against maybe 10 other teams.
>
> Now, maybe this doesn't make him a team player. It certainly doesn't make
> him a chess player. You gotta do it to be one, otherwise you end up like the
> great non-playing hero, Fischer. When Fischer played with all other players
> he seemed to keep his devils at bay, and at least his chess opinions were
> interesting to read.
>
> That's a bit of cause and effect that Sam Sloan might consider.
>
> Phil Innes
I am willing to play you or Rob Mitchell any time for money.
I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that I
will have to be able to see the board.
So, just get into your boat in Vermont and sail it from Vermont down
to New York City and we can play for money in Liberty Park across from
Ground Zero or in the Atrium at 60 Wall Street where USCF certified
arbiters are always available to referee the match.
In other words, put up or shut up.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Feb 2008 09:23:43
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:e4be344d-c60f-4d67-b946-850ebb499182@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 27, 9:46 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sloan also dodged the challenge of a team comprised of members of this
>> newsgroup [misc and politics] to just shut up and play chess like an
>> ordinary human being.
>>
>> Maybe a dozen people had a go at corres chess, in several different team
>> formations - and against maybe 10 other teams.
>>
>> Now, maybe this doesn't make him a team player. It certainly doesn't make
>> him a chess player. You gotta do it to be one, otherwise you end up like
>> the
>> great non-playing hero, Fischer. When Fischer played with all other
>> players
>> he seemed to keep his devils at bay, and at least his chess opinions were
>> interesting to read.
>>
>> That's a bit of cause and effect that Sam Sloan might consider.
>>
>> Phil Innes
>
> I am willing to play you or Rob Mitchell any time for money.
I am rarely interested in playing anyone for money.
> I will even play Rob Mitchell blindfolded. For you, I am afraid that I
> will have to be able to see the board.
>
> So, just get into your boat in Vermont and sail it from Vermont down
> to New York City and we can play for money in Liberty Park across from
> Ground Zero or in the Atrium at 60 Wall Street where USCF certified
> arbiters are always available to referee the match.
>
> In other words, put up or shut up.
To play chess, or not, is your choice - I am not interested in your
*special* needs, and self-exceptions, whether in chess or politics.
Phil Innes
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 05:58:18
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 27, 7:57 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> This is a perfect example of how Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell got his
> moniker "The Robber".
>
> He tells me to send $10,000 to a PO Box and then he will send further
> instructions.
>
> Of course, I am not quite so stupid as to do this
Dear Mr. Sloan: we all know that in fact you
simply don't have $10K, so whatever "reasons"
you may give are plainly irrelevant. That is,
unless we are talking about a *hypothetical*
$10K and what you -- hypothetically -- might
do *if* you had it.
> but there are no
> doubt some people who are that stupid. Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell was
> going around asking for $35,000 front money to organize a chess match
> by Bobby Fischer for $14 million.
Yes, but the majority was to go to the winner,
so I had to decline; there is no point in my even
playing if the only one who will benefit is a loon
in Iceland or Japan or wherever. You see, I'm
just a tad rusty... .
> Who knows, perhaps he found a sucker
> who did that, whom he now tells that unfortunately Bobby died and he
> cannot pay the money back because it has already been spent setting up
> the match.
Nonsense. Now that Bobby Fischer is dead,
the odds are more balanced; I say, go ahead
with the match! I hereby withdraw my demand
(what-- you thought only BF could make
demands?) for Queens odds in every game.
All I now ask is a paltry Rook. And we have
to play in direct sunlight. And where there are
lots of flies about. And carrion scavengers.
> Rob ("the robber") will not find many suckers willing to send $10,000
> to his PO Box, but all he needs to do is find one sucker occasionally
> to make a good living as a swindler.
Ten thou will barely fill the fuel tanks of his
favorite yacht; no, I think he needs to continue
working full time-- at least until he can make
a living playing chess.
-- help bot
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 09:46:28
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
Sloan also dodged the challenge of a team comprised of members of this
newsgroup [misc and politics] to just shut up and play chess like an
ordinary human being.
Maybe a dozen people had a go at corres chess, in several different team
formations - and against maybe 10 other teams.
Now, maybe this doesn't make him a team player. It certainly doesn't make
him a chess player. You gotta do it to be one, otherwise you end up like the
great non-playing hero, Fischer. When Fischer played with all other players
he seemed to keep his devils at bay, and at least his chess opinions were
interesting to read.
That's a bit of cause and effect that Sam Sloan might consider.
Phil Innes
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 05:35:21
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 27, 8:13 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:57 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 27, 12:38 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Send your 10k dollars to to the po box I will give you and I will send
> > > you further instructions.
> > > Or you can just sign on to the link and try to win.You may have beaten
> > > me 12 months ago Sam. But my constant play against persons rated 2300
> > > and higher, including a GM, have made my game a bit sharper. Of
> > > course, what would you do if you couldn't post here?
>
> > This is a perfect example of how Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell got his
> > moniker "The Robber".
>
> > He tells me to send $10,000 to a PO Box and then he will send further
> > instructions.
>
> > Of course, I am not quite so stupid as to do this, but there are no
> > doubt some people who are that stupid. Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell was
> > going around asking for $35,000 front money to organize a chess match
> > by Bobby Fischer for $14 million. Who knows, perhaps he found a sucker
> > who did that, whom he now tells that unfortunately Bobby died and he
> > cannot pay the money back because it has already been spent setting up
> > the match.
>
> > Rob ("the robber") will not find many suckers willing to send $10,000
> > to his PO Box, but all he needs to do is find one sucker occasionally
> > to make a good living as a swindler.
>
> > His real job is supposedly to sell life insurance.
>
> Which Mitch are you referring to?
> this Mitch has always offered to play for free.
> I believe you are confused again Sam.
> You are the one who asked for money first, not me.
> You are the well known swindler and gadfly.
> You are the well know miscreant.
> You are the chess coward and the semi- literate publisher of Kinkos
> novellas of no value.
Are you saying that your statement above that I should send $10,000 to
your PO box was posted by Truong or some other imposter?
Has the Fake Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell arrived?
Do you feel honored now that you finally have an imposter?
Sam Sloan
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 05:13:50
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 27, 6:57 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 27, 12:38 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Send your 10k dollars to to the po box I will give you and I will send
> > you further instructions.
> > Or you can just sign on to the link and try to win.You may have beaten
> > me 12 months ago Sam. But my constant play against persons rated 2300
> > and higher, including a GM, have made my game a bit sharper. Of
> > course, what would you do if you couldn't post here?
>
> This is a perfect example of how Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell got his
> moniker "The Robber".
>
> He tells me to send $10,000 to a PO Box and then he will send further
> instructions.
>
> Of course, I am not quite so stupid as to do this, but there are no
> doubt some people who are that stupid. Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell was
> going around asking for $35,000 front money to organize a chess match
> by Bobby Fischer for $14 million. Who knows, perhaps he found a sucker
> who did that, whom he now tells that unfortunately Bobby died and he
> cannot pay the money back because it has already been spent setting up
> the match.
>
> Rob ("the robber") will not find many suckers willing to send $10,000
> to his PO Box, but all he needs to do is find one sucker occasionally
> to make a good living as a swindler.
>
> His real job is supposedly to sell life insurance.
Which Mitch are you referring to?
this Mitch has always offered to play for free.
I believe you are confused again Sam.
You are the one who asked for money first, not me.
You are the well known swindler and gadfly.
You are the well know miscreant.
You are the chess coward and the semi- literate publisher of Kinkos
novellas of no value.
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 04:57:01
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 27, 12:38 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Send your 10k dollars to to the po box I will give you and I will send
> you further instructions.
> Or you can just sign on to the link and try to win.You may have beaten
> me 12 months ago Sam. But my constant play against persons rated 2300
> and higher, including a GM, have made my game a bit sharper. Of
> course, what would you do if you couldn't post here?
This is a perfect example of how Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell got his
moniker "The Robber".
He tells me to send $10,000 to a PO Box and then he will send further
instructions.
Of course, I am not quite so stupid as to do this, but there are no
doubt some people who are that stupid. Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell was
going around asking for $35,000 front money to organize a chess match
by Bobby Fischer for $14 million. Who knows, perhaps he found a sucker
who did that, whom he now tells that unfortunately Bobby died and he
cannot pay the money back because it has already been spent setting up
the match.
Rob ("the robber") will not find many suckers willing to send $10,000
to his PO Box, but all he needs to do is find one sucker occasionally
to make a good living as a swindler.
His real job is supposedly to sell life insurance.
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 21:38:27
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 26, 11:28 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 27, 12:20 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 10:11 pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 26, 10:04 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Look Mohammed"Soupy Sam "Sloan You have provided the occassional
> > > > annoyance of a gadfly. You have the value of a louse and the moral
> > > > courage of a tick, In My Opinion.
>
> > > > You seem to want to destroy the USCF by saving it. LOL. You want to
> > > > save it from the people who want to fix the USCF.
> > > > Grow up. Get a life. Play a game with me or shut up about it Beat me
> > > > and I won't post in RGCM again. I win, and you don't either. That
> > > > fair?
>
> > > > Lex Mitchell
> > > Rob Mitchell has not been a USCF member for years so he can hardly
> > > speak for the membership. As a player, he is 800 strength at best,
> > > which means that he cannot play at all. I can beat him easily
> > > blindfolded.
>
> > That should be fun for you. How do you intent to play computer email
> > chess blindfolded? LOL
>
> > Which Mitch can you beat? Do you know? Talk is cheap.
>
> > > I wonder why he keeps making these ridiculous challenges for me to
> > > play him a game of chess.
>
> > > Sam Sloan
>
> > Maybe because he enjoys the game? LOL
>
> I will play you for money any time. I am not going to give you a free
> chess lesson.
>
> Sam Sloan
Send your 10k dollars to to the po box I will give you and I will send
you further instructions.
Or you can just sign on to the link and try to win.You may have beaten
me 12 months ago Sam. But my constant play against persons rated 2300
and higher, including a GM, have made my game a bit sharper. Of
course, what would you do if you couldn't post here?
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 21:28:29
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
|
On Feb 27, 12:20 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 26, 10:11 pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 10:04 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Look Mohammed"Soupy Sam "Sloan You have provided the occassional
> > > annoyance of a gadfly. You have the value of a louse and the moral
> > > courage of a tick, In My Opinion.
>
> > > You seem to want to destroy the USCF by saving it. LOL. You want to
> > > save it from the people who want to fix the USCF.
> > > Grow up. Get a life. Play a game with me or shut up about it Beat me
> > > and I won't post in RGCM again. I win, and you don't either. That
> > > fair?
>
> > > Lex Mitchell
> > Rob Mitchell has not been a USCF member for years so he can hardly
> > speak for the membership. As a player, he is 800 strength at best,
> > which means that he cannot play at all. I can beat him easily
> > blindfolded.
>
> That should be fun for you. How do you intent to play computer email
> chess blindfolded? LOL
>
> Which Mitch can you beat? Do you know? Talk is cheap.
>
> > I wonder why he keeps making these ridiculous challenges for me to
> > play him a game of chess.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Maybe because he enjoys the game? LOL
I will play you for money any time. I am not going to give you a free
chess lesson.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 21:20:19
From: Rob
Subject: Sloan Dodges challenge.... AGAIN
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On Feb 26, 10:11 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 26, 10:04 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Look Mohammed"Soupy Sam "Sloan You have provided the occassional
> > annoyance of a gadfly. You have the value of a louse and the moral
> > courage of a tick, In My Opinion.
>
> > You seem to want to destroy the USCF by saving it. LOL. You want to
> > save it from the people who want to fix the USCF.
> > Grow up. Get a life. Play a game with me or shut up about it Beat me
> > and I won't post in RGCM again. I win, and you don't either. That
> > fair?
>
> > Lex Mitchell
> Rob Mitchell has not been a USCF member for years so he can hardly
> speak for the membership. As a player, he is 800 strength at best,
> which means that he cannot play at all. I can beat him easily
> blindfolded.
That should be fun for you. How do you intent to play computer email
chess blindfolded? LOL
Which Mitch can you beat? Do you know? Talk is cheap.
> I wonder why he keeps making these ridiculous challenges for me to
> play him a game of chess.
>
> Sam Sloan
Maybe because he enjoys the game? LOL
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 20:11:19
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
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On Feb 26, 10:04 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Look Mohammed"Soupy Sam "Sloan You have provided the occassional
> annoyance of a gadfly. You have the value of a louse and the moral
> courage of a tick, In My Opinion.
>
> You seem to want to destroy the USCF by saving it. LOL. You want to
> save it from the people who want to fix the USCF.
> Grow up. Get a life. Play a game with me or shut up about it Beat me
> and I won't post in RGCM again. I win, and you don't either. That
> fair?
>
> Lex Mitchell
Rob Mitchell has not been a USCF member for years so he can hardly
speak for the membership. As a player, he is 800 strength at best,
which means that he cannot play at all. I can beat him easily
blindfolded.
I wonder why he keeps making these ridiculous challenges for me to
play him a game of chess.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 19:04:53
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
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On Feb 26, 6:26 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> --- In [email protected], chesspride@... wrote:
>
>
>
> > Not only that, but he is posting them under Sam's name. That's dirty pool.
>
> > Posting messages that only barely fit the newsgroup purpose is only mildly irritating -- sometimes it can be entertaining.
>
> > But posting the same message 50 times under *someone else's name* is not
> > only annoying to all 300+ group members...but it is borderline illegal. Truong
> > is learning this the hard way...maybe Mitchell should, too.
>
> > He applied for the ED job? And the Scholastic Director job? Is this true?
>
> > ECJ
>
> Yes. It is true. Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell lives in Nashville TN.
> When the USCF was moving from New Windsor NY to Crossville TN in 2005,
> Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell applied for a job with the USCF as
> Scholastic Director. When he was turned down for that job, he applied
> for a job as Executive Director.
Wrong Sam. That is wrong. Don't live in Nashville.
Wrong "Which Mitch" LOL
I did not apply for the scholastic and then the ED job. LOL
> He reached the interview stage for the first job but fortunately he
> was not hired.
They hired what they wanted. That has worked out well.
> He joined the USCF just so that he could apply for these jobs. This is
> why he was a member for just one year in 2004-2005.
Wrong! Again your facts are not quite there Sam. I was a member two
years prior as was my entire family. LOL Can't get your facts straight
can you?
> http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12965921
> You may be wondering how he came to be known as Rob ("the Robber")
> Mitchell.
How did who come by that name? Not me. LOL... goofy boy
> He claimed to have made an agreement with Bobby Fischer in Iceland to
> play a chess match for $14 million.
No I did not. And the person who says I did is not telling the entire
truth. They are telling the truth as they wanted to hear it.
> He was going around asking for $35,000 in front money to organize this
> match.
Are you willing to carry a staff around the world for free to organize
anything with someone known to be evasive as smoke for someone who
could not prove they had the money to pay for anything? LOL... They
should have called you then.
> Of course, this was a lie. Rob ("the Robber") had never met Bobby
> Fischer and Fischer had never agreed with him to play a chess match
> for $14 million.
Never said, or implied to anyone at any time that I had any contact .
Which-Mitch ever said they had?
> Sam Sloan
Look Mohammed"Soupy Sam "Sloan You have provided the occassional
annoyance of a gadfly. You have the value of a louse and the moral
courage of a tick, In My Opinion.
You seem to want to destroy the USCF by saving it. LOL. You want to
save it from the people who want to fix the USCF.
Grow up. Get a life. Play a game with me or shut up about it Beat me
and I won't post in RGCM again. I win, and you don't either. That
fair?
Lex Mitchell
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 09:20:52
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos again
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"Rob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:4e91aaf2-52d1-423d-a47a-12832b1a0415@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> Look Mohammed"Soupy Sam "Sloan You have provided the occassional
> annoyance of a gadfly. You have the value of a louse and the moral
> courage of a tick, In My Opinion.
The thing of it is, after reading all these Sloan-isms, and knowing them to
be false, who would ever believe him again? Now and again Sloan has raised
good issues, but he buries them in this sort of material, which can scarcely
be termed half-truths, and are obviously intended to indecently get at those
people he doesn't like.
The shear volume of nonsense he proposes and speculates upon renders moot
any potential benefit of whatever he opens up, and his inability to pursue
those things we /all/ think are valuable to expose to light and iar, is
caused by his monumental egoic grandstanding - just like Fischer he does
indeed kill the thing he loves!
Of course, as I wrote elsewhere yesterday, USCF have more than a little
explaining to do, unless they wish to be perceived as overlooking the Works
of Sloan as a useful, but officially deniable, stalking horse to embarrass
others involved in chess politics.
So, what's new? Nothing new will come to USCF until the Reign of the
Personality Dictators is ended.
That graffitum has been on the wall this past dozen - and I don't see anyone
in public life willing to go clean it off, since it is so evidently true.
Cordially, Le Penguin.
>
> Lex Mitchell
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 16:26:02
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
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--- In [email protected], chesspride@... wrote:
>
> Not only that, but he is posting them under Sam's name. That's dirty pool.
>
> Posting messages that only barely fit the newsgroup purpose is only mildly irritating -- sometimes it can be entertaining.
>
> But posting the same message 50 times under *someone else's name* is not
> only annoying to all 300+ group members...but it is borderline illegal. Truong
> is learning this the hard way...maybe Mitchell should, too.
>
> He applied for the ED job? And the Scholastic Director job? Is this true?
>
> ECJ
Yes. It is true. Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell lives in Nashville TN.
When the USCF was moving from New Windsor NY to Crossville TN in 2005,
Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell applied for a job with the USCF as
Scholastic Director. When he was turned down for that job, he applied
for a job as Executive Director.
He reached the interview stage for the first job but fortunately he
was not hired.
He joined the USCF just so that he could apply for these jobs. This is
why he was a member for just one year in 2004-2005.
http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12965920
You may be wondering how he came to be known as Rob ("the Robber")
Mitchell.
He claimed to have made an agreement with Bobby Fischer in Iceland to
play a chess match for $14 million.
He was going around asking for $35,000 in front money to organize this
match.
Of course, this was a lie. Rob ("the Robber") had never met Bobby
Fischer and Fischer had never agreed with him to play a chess match
for $14 million.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 21:54:47
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: [deleted] is filling up my email group with unwanted videos again
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(I replaced the name of the person Sloan is accusing with
[deleted] because I have seen no evidence that he really
knows who it is.)
samsloan wrote:
>Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:
>> samsloan wrote:
>
>>> In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted
>>> videos posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
>>> Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
>>> Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
>>
>> You insist that there is nothing wrong with you sending posts about
>> your lawsuits to a newsgroup that is dedicated to computer chess,
>> so I suggest that the same standard be applied concerning someone
>> sending videos to your Yahoo! group. What comes around goes around.
>
>That situation is entirely different.
Not really....
>This is a public Usenet group. Anybody can post anything here.
>
>I have a private members-only Yahoo group.
It appears to me that anybody can post anything to your
"private members-only Yahoo group" as well. In particular,
somebody sure seemed to be able to post 60 videos there!
>[deleted] has discovered that several newspaper and video websites
>allow you to email a video or a news article to a "friend".
>[deleted] has used these facilities to email more than one hundred
>videos and news articles to my email group.
I agree that doing that is rude and obnoxious, but clearly the
software that runs your Yahoo group allows it to happen. I see
no substantive difference from the way he software on Usenet news
servers allow you to post your lawsuits to a newsgroup that is
dedicated to computer chess.
You are, quite simply, being treated the way you treat others.
You think it's OK for you to annoy others with off-topic material,
but you insist that nobody annoys you with off-topic material.
I can think of at least one countermeasure to the video postings,
but I am not particularly motivated to share it with you. Perhaps
being treated as you treat others will give you some empathy for
your victims. Experience is a harsh teacher, but some people simply
refuse to be taught any other way.
BTW, have you ever wondered how many votes you lost because of my
stated opinion that your off-topic crossposting was reason to not
vote for you? Those who refuse to follow social norms do so at
the risk of losing elections because of that behavior.
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 12:08:08
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
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On Feb 26, 1:40=A0pm, zdrakec <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 26, 1:15=A0pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide_chess/
news:9b8ffd28-2218-4eb1-be9f-
[email protected]...
> > > In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos=
> > > posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
> > > I just now deleted 45 postings of videos and yesterday I deleted more
> > > than 20.
> > > Rob Mitchell was first suspended and then expelled from my group on
> > > Apr 16, 2007 at 6:20 pm for refusing to reveal his identity, since
> > > there are 26 present and former USCF members named Rob Mitchell.
> > Actually, whoever is doing that is not the Rob Mitchell I know. We in
> > Vermont have recently hired him and his vessel 'Prozac' to lead the Verm=
ont
> > Navy on an attack on St. Lucia. Trouble is, our war-canoes can carry 3
> > people [max] plus maple-syrup kit in case we find any maples on St. L ~ =
then
> > we intended =A0to move on and slighly up and a bit to the left and to at=
tack
> > and completely take over St. Kitts and Nevis, but a fierce argument has
> > arisen in the Vermont Navy about which to attack first?
what about the Yellow Subine?
> > Sister y asserts that we should proceed along the lines of taking the=
> > 'Ile de France' and Mauritius [which as ani ful no, means she thinks Nev=
is
> > should be hit first, while Cap'n "Lex" Mitchell thinks we should go stra=
ight
> > at 'em and board St. Kitts in the smoke.]
Plug the volcano and watch it blow!
> > Anyway, Taylor Kingston [in boat 3] brought half his library with him, a=
nd
> > the odd thing is, neither Steinitz nor Lasker seem to have offered any
> > opinion on how to take a group of islands with 12 people, armed only wit=
h
> > cow-pies, and an admittedly very large crucifix on a chain wielded by th=
e
> > formidable Sister M.
I like his tobacco. It gives off a nice aroma. But the suction- cup
chess pieces are hard to move but they sure don't slide on a rough
sea.
> > > Rob Mitchell has ever since been retaliating in numerous ways most
> > > recently by posting unwanted videos there.
Really? Which Mitch? LOL I don't think so.
> > > Now that Ray Gordon is suing Joel Channing because Jennifer Shahade
> > > was hired instead of him,
>
> > instead of who? Joel or Ray for $40k
>
> > :)))
>
> > has either of them written on chess, as such?
> > > and Rob ("The Robber") =A0Mitchell is
> > > harassing me because he was not hired by the USCF as either Executive
> > > Director or as Scholastic Coordinator, I have written to him the
> > > following:
If you had any assets your legal problems would be great Mohammed. :-)
> > Isn't it illegal to post personnel information of any organisation? I th=
ink
> > so!
>
> > I should be surprised if the only hassles Sam Sloan receives are from Ro=
b
> > Mitchell, since I think Sam Sloan has once again broken a Federal law.
>
> > Nothing will happen though - especially from USCF who have never censure=
d
> > Sloan for this previously - and I just want to make it a matter of PUBLI=
C
> > RECORD that anyone applying for work at USCF can have their personal
> > information blasted around the interner with apparent [?] impunity.
> > I would recommend that Sam Sloan will removed forever as a member of USC=
F
> > for doing so, and that Bill Hall too! Since, does how come Sloan knows t=
his
> > information and can seemingly broadcast it without any consequence?
He would rather see the organization dead first.
> > > Rob, I had nothing to do with your failure to get a job working for
> > > the USCF. You did not get the job because you FAILED THE INTERVIEW.
What interview? LOL Who are you talking to Mohammed?
> > > I had nothing to do with that.
With what?
> > > Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
> > > Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
Can't stop what hasn't started.
> > And this is the howler of the year so far.
>
> > FIRST Sloan says he doesn't know which Mitchell he threw off his group
> > SECONDLY he identifies privileged information about someone he /suspects=
/ as
> > being /the/ Rob Mitchell who he /asserts/ is ruining his 'group' which s=
eems
> > entirely composed of himself.
The last post I had to his site, almost a year ago.. he was doing 90%
of the posting. It must be closer to 100% now which is why he spams
the usenet with the link to his group. Really , you are pathetic!
> > > You were kicked out of my group not because you attacked me but
> > > because you failed to identify yourself by revealing that you were the=
> > > One and Only Rob ("The Robber") =A0Mitchell.
Another complete lie.
> > This seems to be the month for surverys: Anyone here think Sam Sloan is
> > entirely right in his mind? Or - how about right in law? Or - how about =
the
> > logic of 'which' Mitchell fearless declaimed above?
>
> > > Sam Sloan
>
> > Is that your legal name Mohammed?
>
> > [Nothing at all against the original who always seemed to me to be an
> > exceptionally bright bloke.]
>
> > Phil Innes
>
> I find I can bear Sloan's troubles with great fortitude.- Hide quoted text=
-
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think it's funny . When no one visits his groups he "invents"
attacks. You proved his dishonesty very clearly. If there are 29 Rob
Mitchell's as he claims in the USCF what makes him think that any of
them has ever posted to his group? If he honestly didn't know who
someone was , then how can he assert the information he posted and
spread over the internet illegally was the correct one?
He can't do that and not prove himself to be a liar either way.
Rob (Lex-Which Mitch)
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 19:08:46
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos again
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"Rob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:4e0a4579-c434-4e45-a614-13f86af6a3cc@q33g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 26, 1:40 pm, zdrakec <[email protected] > wrote:
I think it's funny . When no one visits his groups he "invents"
attacks. You proved his dishonesty very clearly. If there are 29 Rob
Mitchell's as he claims in the USCF what makes him think that any of
them has ever posted to his group? If he honestly didn't know who
someone was , then how can he assert the information he posted and
spread over the internet illegally was the correct one?
He can't do that and not prove himself to be a liar either way.
**Cheating! You thought about stuff, logically, which is unfair! No wonder
people don't trust you.
Cordially, Le Penguin
Rob (Lex-Which Mitch)
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 11:57:33
From:
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
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On Feb 26, 2:44=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2:15 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:9b8ffd28-2218-4eb1-be9f-dc861ac91b0d@e41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...=
>
> > > In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos=
> > > posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
>
> > > I just now deleted 45 postings of videos and yesterday I deleted more
> > > than 20.
>
> > > Rob Mitchell was first suspended and then expelled from my group on
> > > Apr 16, 2007 at 6:20 pm for refusing to reveal his identity, since
> > > there are 26 present and former USCF members named Rob Mitchell.
>
> > Actually, whoever is doing that is not the Rob Mitchell I know. We in
> > Vermont have recently hired him and his vessel 'Prozac' to lead the Verm=
ont
> > Navy on an attack on St. Lucia. Trouble is, our war-canoes can carry 3
> > people [max] plus maple-syrup kit in case we find any maples on St. L ~ =
then
> > we intended =A0to move on and slighly up and a bit to the left and to at=
tack
> > and completely take over St. Kitts and Nevis, but a fierce argument has
> > arisen in the Vermont Navy about which to attack first?
>
> > Sister y asserts that we should proceed along the lines of taking the=
> > 'Ile de France' and Mauritius [which as ani ful no, means she thinks Nev=
is
> > should be hit first, while Cap'n "Lex" Mitchell thinks we should go stra=
ight
> > at 'em and board St. Kitts in the smoke.]
>
> > Anyway, Taylor Kingston [in boat 3] brought half his library with him, a=
nd
> > the odd thing is, neither Steinitz nor Lasker seem to have offered any
> > opinion on how to take a group of islands with 12 people, armed only wit=
h
> > cow-pies, and an admittedly very large crucifix on a chain wielded by th=
e
> > formidable Sister M.
>
> > > Rob Mitchell has ever since been retaliating in numerous ways most
> > > recently by posting unwanted videos there.
>
> > > Now that Ray Gordon is suing Joel Channing because Jennifer Shahade
> > > was hired instead of him,
>
> > instead of who? Joel or Ray for $40k
>
> > :)))
>
> > has either of them written on chess, as such?
>
> > > and Rob ("The Robber") =A0Mitchell is
> > > harassing me because he was not hired by the USCF as either Executive
> > > Director or as Scholastic Coordinator, I have written to him the
> > > following:
>
> > Isn't it illegal to post personnel information of any organisation? I th=
ink
> > so!
>
> > I should be surprised if the only hassles Sam Sloan receives are from Ro=
b
> > Mitchell, since I think Sam Sloan has once again broken a Federal law.
>
> > Nothing will happen though - especially from USCF who have never censure=
d
> > Sloan for this previously - and I just want to make it a matter of PUBLI=
C
> > RECORD that anyone applying for work at USCF can have their personal
> > information blasted around the interner with apparent [?] impunity.
>
> > I would recommend that Sam Sloan will removed forever as a member of USC=
F
> > for doing so, and that Bill Hall too! Since, does how come Sloan knows t=
his
> > information and can seemingly broadcast it without any consequence?
>
> > > Rob, I had nothing to do with your failure to get a job working for
> > > the USCF. You did not get the job because you FAILED THE INTERVIEW.
>
> > > I had nothing to do with that.
>
> > > Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
> > > Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
>
> > And this is the howler of the year so far.
>
> > FIRST Sloan says he doesn't know which Mitchell he threw off his group
> > SECONDLY he identifies privileged information about someone he /suspects=
/ as
> > being /the/ Rob Mitchell who he /asserts/ is ruining his 'group' which s=
eems
> > entirely composed of himself.
>
> > > You were kicked out of my group not because you attacked me but
> > > because you failed to identify yourself by revealing that you were the=
> > > One and Only Rob ("The Robber") =A0Mitchell.
>
> > This seems to be the month for surverys: Anyone here think Sam Sloan is
> > entirely right in his mind? Or - how about right in law? Or - how about =
the
> > logic of 'which' Mitchell fearless declaimed above?
>
> > > Sam Sloan
>
> > Is that your legal name Mohammed?
>
> > [Nothing at all against the original who always seemed to me to be an
> > exceptionally bright bloke.]
>
> > Phil Innes
>
> Actually, this is one of the best postings ever by Phil Innes.
>
> Worth saving.
>
> Especially the part about sending the Vermont Navy to capture St.
> Kitts and Nevis.
Hey, the Vermont Navy is not to be sneezed at! Back early in the
Revolutionary War it prevented the British from seizing control of
Lake Champlain. Without that defensive action we might today all be
speaking English! The gunboat force was commanded by none other than
Benedict Arnold, back when he was still a good guy.
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 18:08:46
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos again
|
<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:7597d21f-cc2d-495c-9f7c-b9b3ccb887e0@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 26, 2:44 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2:15 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
Taylor Kingston reports from Boat 3, by satellite, somewhere in the
Caribbean.
> Actually, this is one of the best postings ever by Phil Innes.
>
> Worth saving.
>
> Especially the part about sending the Vermont Navy to capture St.
> Kitts and Nevis.
Hey, the Vermont Navy is not to be sneezed at! Back early in the
Revolutionary War it prevented the British from seizing control of
Lake Champlain. Without that defensive action we might today all be
speaking English! The gunboat force was commanded by none other than
Benedict Arnold, back when he was still a good guy.
---
**Taylor, my daughter was the youngest ever, male of female, crew to join a
similar thingee...
But not on Champlain, on Eerie where she worked one summer as crew on a lake
boat, built beyond the bonbardment of the Brits over a sand bar, but which
nevertheless wound up as Pierie's falg ship [this was a brig, or strictly
rather less that that] by default it seems as being the last barky afloat,
his own being abandoned. About half the crew were Canadian, and half them
women. I went aboard and my 6/3" height was soemwhat constrained between
decks where the clearance was 5' 6" discounting beams. Dauntless daughter
worked up there 100' above the water on the yard arms. She called me middle
of all this 'somewhere in Canada' from a Mall, she didn't even know the town
it was in - and 'all the people were looking at her' probably because her
clothes were plastered with tar
Anyway, on this brigantine she met the Governor of PA and also a film star
name of Jack Palance.
But tell us, what forces were there on Champlain isolating Ticonderoga? And
what part Benedict Arnold played in it.
Cordially, Phil Innes
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 11:44:37
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
|
On Feb 26, 2:15 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:9b8ffd28-2218-4eb1-be9f-dc861ac91b0d@e41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos
> > posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
>
> > I just now deleted 45 postings of videos and yesterday I deleted more
> > than 20.
>
> > Rob Mitchell was first suspended and then expelled from my group on
> > Apr 16, 2007 at 6:20 pm for refusing to reveal his identity, since
> > there are 26 present and former USCF members named Rob Mitchell.
>
> Actually, whoever is doing that is not the Rob Mitchell I know. We in
> Vermont have recently hired him and his vessel 'Prozac' to lead the Vermont
> Navy on an attack on St. Lucia. Trouble is, our war-canoes can carry 3
> people [max] plus maple-syrup kit in case we find any maples on St. L ~ then
> we intended to move on and slighly up and a bit to the left and to attack
> and completely take over St. Kitts and Nevis, but a fierce argument has
> arisen in the Vermont Navy about which to attack first?
>
> Sister y asserts that we should proceed along the lines of taking the
> 'Ile de France' and Mauritius [which as ani ful no, means she thinks Nevis
> should be hit first, while Cap'n "Lex" Mitchell thinks we should go straight
> at 'em and board St. Kitts in the smoke.]
>
> Anyway, Taylor Kingston [in boat 3] brought half his library with him, and
> the odd thing is, neither Steinitz nor Lasker seem to have offered any
> opinion on how to take a group of islands with 12 people, armed only with
> cow-pies, and an admittedly very large crucifix on a chain wielded by the
> formidable Sister M.
>
> > Rob Mitchell has ever since been retaliating in numerous ways most
> > recently by posting unwanted videos there.
>
> > Now that Ray Gordon is suing Joel Channing because Jennifer Shahade
> > was hired instead of him,
>
> instead of who? Joel or Ray for $40k
>
> :)))
>
> has either of them written on chess, as such?
>
> > and Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell is
> > harassing me because he was not hired by the USCF as either Executive
> > Director or as Scholastic Coordinator, I have written to him the
> > following:
>
> Isn't it illegal to post personnel information of any organisation? I think
> so!
>
> I should be surprised if the only hassles Sam Sloan receives are from Rob
> Mitchell, since I think Sam Sloan has once again broken a Federal law.
>
> Nothing will happen though - especially from USCF who have never censured
> Sloan for this previously - and I just want to make it a matter of PUBLIC
> RECORD that anyone applying for work at USCF can have their personal
> information blasted around the interner with apparent [?] impunity.
>
> I would recommend that Sam Sloan will removed forever as a member of USCF
> for doing so, and that Bill Hall too! Since, does how come Sloan knows this
> information and can seemingly broadcast it without any consequence?
>
> > Rob, I had nothing to do with your failure to get a job working for
> > the USCF. You did not get the job because you FAILED THE INTERVIEW.
>
> > I had nothing to do with that.
>
> > Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
> > Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
>
> And this is the howler of the year so far.
>
> FIRST Sloan says he doesn't know which Mitchell he threw off his group
> SECONDLY he identifies privileged information about someone he /suspects/ as
> being /the/ Rob Mitchell who he /asserts/ is ruining his 'group' which seems
> entirely composed of himself.
>
> > You were kicked out of my group not because you attacked me but
> > because you failed to identify yourself by revealing that you were the
> > One and Only Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell.
>
> This seems to be the month for surverys: Anyone here think Sam Sloan is
> entirely right in his mind? Or - how about right in law? Or - how about the
> logic of 'which' Mitchell fearless declaimed above?
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Is that your legal name Mohammed?
>
> [Nothing at all against the original who always seemed to me to be an
> exceptionally bright bloke.]
>
> Phil Innes
Actually, this is one of the best postings ever by Phil Innes.
Worth saving.
Especially the part about sending the Vermont Navy to capture St.
Kitts and Nevis.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 11:40:41
From: zdrakec
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
|
On Feb 26, 1:15=A0pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:9b8ffd28-2218-4eb1-be9f-dc861ac91b0d@e41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos
> > posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
>
> > I just now deleted 45 postings of videos and yesterday I deleted more
> > than 20.
>
> > Rob Mitchell was first suspended and then expelled from my group on
> > Apr 16, 2007 at 6:20 pm for refusing to reveal his identity, since
> > there are 26 present and former USCF members named Rob Mitchell.
>
> Actually, whoever is doing that is not the Rob Mitchell I know. We in
> Vermont have recently hired him and his vessel 'Prozac' to lead the Vermon=
t
> Navy on an attack on St. Lucia. Trouble is, our war-canoes can carry 3
> people [max] plus maple-syrup kit in case we find any maples on St. L ~ th=
en
> we intended =A0to move on and slighly up and a bit to the left and to atta=
ck
> and completely take over St. Kitts and Nevis, but a fierce argument has
> arisen in the Vermont Navy about which to attack first?
>
> Sister y asserts that we should proceed along the lines of taking the
> 'Ile de France' and Mauritius [which as ani ful no, means she thinks Nevis=
> should be hit first, while Cap'n "Lex" Mitchell thinks we should go straig=
ht
> at 'em and board St. Kitts in the smoke.]
>
> Anyway, Taylor Kingston [in boat 3] brought half his library with him, and=
> the odd thing is, neither Steinitz nor Lasker seem to have offered any
> opinion on how to take a group of islands with 12 people, armed only with
> cow-pies, and an admittedly very large crucifix on a chain wielded by the
> formidable Sister M.
>
> > Rob Mitchell has ever since been retaliating in numerous ways most
> > recently by posting unwanted videos there.
>
> > Now that Ray Gordon is suing Joel Channing because Jennifer Shahade
> > was hired instead of him,
>
> instead of who? Joel or Ray for $40k
>
> :)))
>
> has either of them written on chess, as such?
>
> > and Rob ("The Robber") =A0Mitchell is
> > harassing me because he was not hired by the USCF as either Executive
> > Director or as Scholastic Coordinator, I have written to him the
> > following:
>
> Isn't it illegal to post personnel information of any organisation? I thin=
k
> so!
>
> I should be surprised if the only hassles Sam Sloan receives are from Rob
> Mitchell, since I think Sam Sloan has once again broken a Federal law.
>
> Nothing will happen though - especially from USCF who have never censured
> Sloan for this previously - and I just want to make it a matter of PUBLIC
> RECORD that anyone applying for work at USCF can have their personal
> information blasted around the interner with apparent [?] impunity.
>
> I would recommend that Sam Sloan will removed forever as a member of USCF
> for doing so, and that Bill Hall too! Since, does how come Sloan knows thi=
s
> information and can seemingly broadcast it without any consequence?
>
> > Rob, I had nothing to do with your failure to get a job working for
> > the USCF. You did not get the job because you FAILED THE INTERVIEW.
>
> > I had nothing to do with that.
>
> > Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
> > Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
>
> And this is the howler of the year so far.
>
> FIRST Sloan says he doesn't know which Mitchell he threw off his group
> SECONDLY he identifies privileged information about someone he /suspects/ =
as
> being /the/ Rob Mitchell who he /asserts/ is ruining his 'group' which see=
ms
> entirely composed of himself.
>
> > You were kicked out of my group not because you attacked me but
> > because you failed to identify yourself by revealing that you were the
> > One and Only Rob ("The Robber") =A0Mitchell.
>
> This seems to be the month for surverys: Anyone here think Sam Sloan is
> entirely right in his mind? Or - how about right in law? Or - how about th=
e
> logic of 'which' Mitchell fearless declaimed above?
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Is that your legal name Mohammed?
>
> [Nothing at all against the original who always seemed to me to be an
> exceptionally bright bloke.]
>
> Phil Innes
I find I can bear Sloan's troubles with great fortitude.
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 14:15:27
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos again
|
"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:9b8ffd28-2218-4eb1-be9f-dc861ac91b0d@e41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos
> posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
>
> I just now deleted 45 postings of videos and yesterday I deleted more
> than 20.
>
> Rob Mitchell was first suspended and then expelled from my group on
> Apr 16, 2007 at 6:20 pm for refusing to reveal his identity, since
> there are 26 present and former USCF members named Rob Mitchell.
Actually, whoever is doing that is not the Rob Mitchell I know. We in
Vermont have recently hired him and his vessel 'Prozac' to lead the Vermont
Navy on an attack on St. Lucia. Trouble is, our war-canoes can carry 3
people [max] plus maple-syrup kit in case we find any maples on St. L ~ then
we intended to move on and slighly up and a bit to the left and to attack
and completely take over St. Kitts and Nevis, but a fierce argument has
arisen in the Vermont Navy about which to attack first?
Sister y asserts that we should proceed along the lines of taking the
'Ile de France' and Mauritius [which as ani ful no, means she thinks Nevis
should be hit first, while Cap'n "Lex" Mitchell thinks we should go straight
at 'em and board St. Kitts in the smoke.]
Anyway, Taylor Kingston [in boat 3] brought half his library with him, and
the odd thing is, neither Steinitz nor Lasker seem to have offered any
opinion on how to take a group of islands with 12 people, armed only with
cow-pies, and an admittedly very large crucifix on a chain wielded by the
formidable Sister M.
> Rob Mitchell has ever since been retaliating in numerous ways most
> recently by posting unwanted videos there.
>
> Now that Ray Gordon is suing Joel Channing because Jennifer Shahade
> was hired instead of him,
instead of who? Joel or Ray for $40k
:)))
has either of them written on chess, as such?
> and Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell is
> harassing me because he was not hired by the USCF as either Executive
> Director or as Scholastic Coordinator, I have written to him the
> following:
Isn't it illegal to post personnel information of any organisation? I think
so!
I should be surprised if the only hassles Sam Sloan receives are from Rob
Mitchell, since I think Sam Sloan has once again broken a Federal law.
Nothing will happen though - especially from USCF who have never censured
Sloan for this previously - and I just want to make it a matter of PUBLIC
RECORD that anyone applying for work at USCF can have their personal
information blasted around the interner with apparent [?] impunity.
I would recommend that Sam Sloan will removed forever as a member of USCF
for doing so, and that Bill Hall too! Since, does how come Sloan knows this
information and can seemingly broadcast it without any consequence?
> Rob, I had nothing to do with your failure to get a job working for
> the USCF. You did not get the job because you FAILED THE INTERVIEW.
>
> I had nothing to do with that.
>
> Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
> Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
And this is the howler of the year so far.
FIRST Sloan says he doesn't know which Mitchell he threw off his group
SECONDLY he identifies privileged information about someone he /suspects/ as
being /the/ Rob Mitchell who he /asserts/ is ruining his 'group' which seems
entirely composed of himself.
> You were kicked out of my group not because you attacked me but
> because you failed to identify yourself by revealing that you were the
> One and Only Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell.
This seems to be the month for surverys: Anyone here think Sam Sloan is
entirely right in his mind? Or - how about right in law? Or - how about the
logic of 'which' Mitchell fearless declaimed above?
> Sam Sloan
Is that your legal name Mohammed?
[Nothing at all against the original who always seemed to me to be an
exceptionally bright bloke.]
Phil Innes
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 08:49:05
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos
|
On Feb 26, 9:41 am, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
> >In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos
> >posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
> >Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
> >Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
>
> You insist that there is nothing wrong with you sending posts about
> your lawsuits to a newsgroup that is dedicated to computer chess,
> so I suggest that the same standard be applied concerning someone
> sending videos to your Yahoo! group. What comes around goes around.
That situation is entirely different.
This is a public Usenet group. Anybody can post anything here.
I have a private members-only Yahoo group. It has 329 members. Rob
Mitchell is the only chess person EVER to be expelled from my group.
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide-chess/
Rob Mitchell has discovered that several newspaper and video websites
allow you to email a video or a news article to a "friend". Rob
Mitchell has used these facilities to email more than one hundred
videos and news articles to my email group.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 14:41:15
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: Rob Mitchell is filling up my email group with unwanted videos again
|
samsloan wrote:
>In the last two days I have had to delete more than 60 unwanted videos
>posted in my name by Rob Mitchell to my private email group.
>Now, will you please stop sending unwanted videos into my FIDE-chess
>Yahoo Group as you have started doing again during the past two days.
You insist that there is nothing wrong with you sending posts about
your lawsuits to a newsgroup that is dedicated to computer chess,
so I suggest that the same standard be applied concerning someone
sending videos to your Yahoo! group. What comes around goes around.
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