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Date: 25 Sep 2008 02:00:17
From: Sanny
Subject: Strong game against Rybka.
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Here is a strong game played by Easy Level against Rybka.
Rybka needed 21 moves for getting a Pawn extra.
Then that pawn got promoted and Rybka win the game.
This game was different from other games as for the first time Rybka
had to play till End Game. Its Queen, Bishop, knights were traded and
then with only the Rooks it played the end game.
Since GetClub was a pawn down and Rybka's Pawn went till 6th Rank. It
was very difficult for GetClub to stop the Queen Promotion.
GetClub Sacrificed its Rook and still Rybka was able to get its Queen
Once the Queen came it was just a matter of 5 moves and the game was
ended.
There was a huge fight in the Opening. But Rybka was unable to get
ahead in material till 21st move.
Game Played between sanjay11 and easy at GetClub.com
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sanjay11: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM27850&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(sanjay11) -- (easy)
1. e2-e4{2} e7-e5{0}
2. Ng1-f3{40} Nb8-c6{0}
3. Bf1-b5{8} d7-d6{0}
4. Nb1-c3{8} Bc8-d7{0}
5. Ke1-g1{18} Ng8-f6{30}
6. d2-d4{12} e5-d4{202}
7. Nf3-d4{10} Nc6-e5{126}
8. f2-f4{14} Bd7-b5{144}
9. Nc3-b5{40} Ne5-g4{162}
10. Rf1-e1{16} h7-h5{100}
11. h2-h3{16} c7-c6{46}
12. e4-e5{46} d6-e5{50}
13. f4-e5{14} Nf6-d7{54}
14. Nb5-d6{26} Bf8-d6{26}
15. e5-d6{20} Ng4-e5{28}
16. Bc1-f4{16} Qd8-a5{54}
17. Bf4-e5{16} Nd7-e5{52}
18. b2-b4{12} Qa5-d5{98}
19. Nd4-c6{12} Qd5-d1{58}
20. Ra1-d1{10} b7-c6{68}
21. Re1-e5{10} Ke8-d8{174}
22. Re5-e7{16} Rh8-e8{64}
23. Re7-f7{16} g7-g5{88}
24. d6-d7{12} Re8-g8{20}
25. Rd1-d6{16} Ra8-b8{28}
26. Rd6-c6{10} g5-g4{34}
27. h3-g4{10} h5-g4{58}
28. Kg1-f2{20} Rg8-g5{30}
29. b4-b5{14} g4-g3{30}
30. Kf2-f3{16} Rg5-b5{70}
31. Rc6-h6{22} Rb5-f5{22}
32. Rf7-f5{16} Rb8-b2{54}
33. Rf5-f7{14} Rb2-a2{28}
34. Rh6-h8{10} Kd8-c7{0}
35. Qd7-d8{Q}{16} Kc7-c6{0}
36. Qd8-c7{14} Kc6-b5{0}
37. Rh8-b8{14} Kb5-a6{0}
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sanjay11: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM27850&game=Chess
Please analyze this game and let me know the weak moves by GetClub if
any. Also duggest the better moves in that position.
Thanks for analyzing.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 26 Sep 2008 10:27:05
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Strong game against Rybka.
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What about the analysis of this game?
Game Played between sanjay11 and easy at GetClub.com
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sanjay11: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM27850&game=
=3DChess
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White -- Black
(sanjay11) -- (easy)
1. e2-e4{2} e7-e5{0}
2. Ng1-f3{40} Nb8-c6{0}
3. Bf1-b5{8} d7-d6{0}
4. Nb1-c3{8} Bc8-d7{0}
5. Ke1-g1{18} Ng8-f6{30}
6. d2-d4{12} e5-d4{202}
7. Nf3-d4{10} Nc6-e5{126}
8. f2-f4{14} Bd7-b5{144}
9. Nc3-b5{40} Ne5-g4{162}
10. Rf1-e1{16} h7-h5{100}
11. h2-h3{16} c7-c6{46}
12. e4-e5{46} d6-e5{50}
13. f4-e5{14} Nf6-d7{54}
14. Nb5-d6{26} Bf8-d6{26}
15. e5-d6{20} Ng4-e5{28}
16. Bc1-f4{16} Qd8-a5{54}
17. Bf4-e5{16} Nd7-e5{52}
18. b2-b4{12} Qa5-d5{98}
19. Nd4-c6{12} Qd5-d1{58}
20. Ra1-d1{10} b7-c6{68}
21. Re1-e5{10} Ke8-d8{174}
22. Re5-e7{16} Rh8-e8{64}
23. Re7-f7{16} g7-g5{88}
24. d6-d7{12} Re8-g8{20}
25. Rd1-d6{16} Ra8-b8{28}
26. Rd6-c6{10} g5-g4{34}
27. h3-g4{10} h5-g4{58}
28. Kg1-f2{20} Rg8-g5{30}
29. b4-b5{14} g4-g3{30}
30. Kf2-f3{16} Rg5-b5{70}
31. Rc6-h6{22} Rb5-f5{22}
32. Rf7-f5{16} Rb8-b2{54}
33. Rf5-f7{14} Rb2-a2{28}
34. Rh6-h8{10} Kd8-c7{0}
35. Qd7-d8{Q}{16} Kc7-c6{0}
36. Qd8-c7{14} Kc6-b5{0}
37. Rh8-b8{14} Kb5-a6{0}
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sanjay11: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM27850&game=
=3DChess
Which were the wrong moves played by GetClub?
Was GetClub playing without errors?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 25 Sep 2008 09:48:27
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Strong game against Rybka.
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On Sep 25, 10:10=A0am, "John Salerno" <[email protected] > wrote:
> > This game was different from other games as for the first time Rybka
> > had to play till End Game.
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but just because a game reaches an endgame doesn=
't
> mean that it was a difficult/more complicated game, does it? Isn't it a
> strategy to purposely bring about an endgame sometimes? I don't see why y=
ou
> seem to be praising GC because Rybka "had to" reach an endgame.
Since Rybka is probably allowed to think for
just a few seconds, it only makes sense that
once in a great while the GetClub program
will manage to trade off a bunch of pieces
before sinking like the Titanic.
In this game, although the material left
after the exchange of Queens is close to
even, Rybka nonetheless had a winning
advantage, which she easily converted in a
few more moves.
What Sanny meant was that instead of
getting stomped all over right in the opening
as usual, in this particular game his program
made it to an endgame which, believe it or
not, many weak players would not be able
to win against a decent defense. The other
side of the coin is that while his program is
thinking for a considerable time, Rybka's
thinking is cut off, as in a blitz game. It's
akin to a simultaneous exhibition, where
Rybka must always quickly move on to the
next board.
My suggestion is that Rybka's QR or QN
ought to be removed before starting the
game-- then let both programs think, so we
get better quality chess. The problem here
is tweaking Rybka's contempt factor such
that she does not easily allow a threefold
repetition draw, nor commits suicide by
attempting to avoid draws when her best
option is to split the point.
-- help bot
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Date: 25 Sep 2008 15:34:07
From: John Salerno
Subject: Re: Strong game against Rybka.
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"help bot" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:7d687993-8ff7-4d85-a543-970be7d793cf@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 25, 10:10 am, "John Salerno" <[email protected] > wrote:
made it to an endgame which, believe it or
not, many weak players would not be able
to win against a decent defense.
oh I believe it! :) I'm looking forward to studying the endgame better
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Date: 25 Sep 2008 07:56:06
From:
Subject: Re: Strong game against Rybka.
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On Sep 25, 10:10=A0am, "John Salerno" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > This game was different from other games as for the first time Rybka
> > had to play till End Game.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but just because a game reaches an endgame doesn=
't
> mean that it was a difficult/more complicated game, does it? Isn't it a
> strategy to purposely bring about an endgame sometimes? I don't see why y=
ou
> seem to be praising GC because Rybka "had to" reach an endgame.
John, Sanny is a lot like the black knight in "Monty Python and the
Holy Grail"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqxL11RIEb5Q
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Date: 25 Sep 2008 14:31:41
From: John Salerno
Subject: Re: Strong game against Rybka.
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<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:19ea52ef-2854-4575-90e2-95c9e989dd5d@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
John, Sanny is a lot like the black knight in "Monty Python and the
Holy Grail"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxL11RIEb5Q
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heh heh..............
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Date: 25 Sep 2008 10:10:21
From: John Salerno
Subject: Re: Strong game against Rybka.
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"Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This game was different from other games as for the first time Rybka
> had to play till End Game.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but just because a game reaches an endgame doesn't
mean that it was a difficult/more complicated game, does it? Isn't it a
strategy to purposely bring about an endgame sometimes? I don't see why you
seem to be praising GC because Rybka "had to" reach an endgame.
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