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Date: February 14 2008
To: Board of Directors/Finance Committee
From: Joe Nanna
Subject: Financial Review - January, 2008
Financial Review:
I would like to preface my reks by stating that I goofed! In
preparing my monthly analysis of current deferred revenue I
inadvertently picked the wrong set of numbers from a report I receive
from Mike Nolan. As a consequence current revenue on an accrual basis
was understated and deferred revenue on the balance sheet was over
stated on a year to date basis by a little over $94,000. I made the
adjustment to revenue in January as opposed to correcting all the
financial reports from the beginning of the year.
Operating Results:
Operating profit for January on an accrual basis, after making the
aforementioned adjustment, was $59,873 compared to budgeted profit of
$131,201. On a year to date basis the operating loss is $291,626 vs. a
budgeted loss of $177,958 for a difference of $113,668 loss in excess
of the revised budget. In comparing the budget to actual for this
year, membership revenue if off $109,000 and other revenue is off
$1,000 for a total of $110,000.
Compared to last year at this point in time the Federation reported a
year to date loss, on an accrual basis, of $241,668 compared to a loss
this year of $291,626 for a difference of $49,958.
Sales:
We are still experiencing a short fall in receipts from Chess Caf=E9.
Last year at this time we reported sales by Chess Caf=E9 of $110,969
compared to this year of $96,580 for a difference of $14,389.
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You missed the thrust of my argument. I was not saying you were trying
to mislead someone. I was saying that you had been misled by someone,
and was wondering whether you were angry about that.
Jerry Spinrad
On 11, 11:36=A0am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 11, 7:01=A0am, "[email protected]"
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You often get upset at people telling lies. Either you grossly
> > misunderstood some statements, or someone told you several lies that
> > caused you to write this. There was no Texas investigation which found
> > that Truong was innocent, and there are no other expert reports
> > concluding that the evidence does not point to Truong (if there were,
> > wouldn't we all have heard this?) Are you upset with the people
> > spreading these lies? I know that they were saying an expert had
> > decided his report was inaccurate, when I had direct evidence to the
> > contrary.
>
> > Have you studied the issue of Truong claiming to have a PhD?
>
> > In my opinion, the defence in this case has been a tissue of lies and
> > smears; rather than responding to Motterhead's evidence, they
> > immediately began to try to smear his name and those of others
> > associated with any accuser.
>
> > Doesn't this bother you a bit? It bothers me a great deal.
>
> > JerrySpinrad
>
> > JerrySpinrad
>
> > On 9, 11:08=A0pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Posted in the =A0chessdiscussion.com forum by Tennessee Vols:
>
> > > "Brain Lafferty does have clear and present malice towards the United
> > > States Chess Federation. If someone does feel it is a cheap shot at
> > > him, or, some other negative term: it is not my personal wish to
> > > degrade or undermine Brain Lafferty. It was pointed out by some that
> > > my statements dealing with Brain Lafferty were ad hominem in nature.
>
> > > What I find is the most striking with the current lawsuits, as the
> > > report that started the Fake Sam Sloan investigation has not received
> > > any support outside of the United States Chess Federation. Independent=
> > > investigations at the governmental level and with other organizations
> > > have found nothing. In fact, the Texas Attorney General Office that
> > > ran an investigation is seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed. Even
> > > the debate within the United States Chess Federation Issues Forum with=
> > > the recall campaign has gone cold with only old and long winded
> > > comments.
>
> > > They have made comments if Paul Truong resigns, the lawsuit will be
> > > dismissed and the recall campaign will be dissolved. Is it not strange=
> > > they say my comments against Brain Lafferty were ad hominem when their=
> > > actions against Paul Truong are not; their actions against Paul Truong=
> > > and Susan Polgar have been more ad hominem then my comments with Brain=
> > > Lafferty.
>
> > > There are a number of preexisting factors with these lawsuits, and
> > > forcing the United States Chess Federation into bankruptcy is one
> > > factor. In my personal judgment, the lawsuits to force the United
> > > States Chess Federation are the weakest as it is more as a mode of
> > > brinkmanship. The lawsuits are political in nature and such they are
> > > being done to get the United States Chess Federation Executive Board
> > > into the barging table then the courtroom.
>
> > > Still, the lawsuits do suppresses the memberships and suppresses the
> > > organizers. As debating the idea bankruptcy could happen because of
> > > lawsuits gives preexisting members and possible and current organizers=
> > > to question the higher risk factor of bankruptcy. As a tournament
> > > director and a organizer that plans to organize events in Knoxville
> > > Tennessee with weekend tournaments with Category C events as early as
> > > 2010: debating bankruptcy does add higher risk factors. In fact, the
> > > current lawsuits and the current state of the United States Executive
> > > Board have made be put off from organizing the first event in 2009
> > > till 2010 because of the risk factor."
> > > .
>
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Jerry,
> I didn't write that piece.. I was just reporting what had been written
> on another forum. I didn't mean to confuse anyone. Sorry if I did.
> Rob- Hide quoted text -
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Date: 11 Mar 2008 11:31:53
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On Tue, 11 2008 11:10:43 -0700 (PDT),
"[email protected]" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>You missed the thrust of my argument. I was not saying you were trying
>to mislead someone. I was saying that you had been misled by someone,
>and was wondering whether you were angry about that.
>Jerry Spinrad
Heh, heh, heh. The post in question was one of TennesseeVol's more
rational ones.
One of his recent paranoid screeds on the ChessDiscussion forum argued
that the Mottershead Report was a highly orchestrated conspiracy --
he deduced this when he noticed that many posters were awake and
posting rationally in the middle of the night when it was first
announced!
To quote from one of his gems: " During that night the people that
have been against Susan Polgar and Paul Truong were posting and
posting during the whole of the night. ...When reading the postings,
the posters were clear and precise with their written comments during
the hours when most people are sleeping in the United States of
America and posting during their time zone were most people are
sleeping. There posting were written without showing signs of being
tired, in fact, their postings were written like they were well
rested. If they were just posting, and posting after being up at their
normal time of the day � they should shows signs of mental fatigue in
their postings. When reading the postings, not I or anyone noticed or
made comments that had errors because of mental fatigue within their
comments, or, the comments of others."
A word of advice to Rob: Listen to this dude too long and you'll be
fitted with coats with very long sleeves.
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Date: 11 Mar 2008 09:36:11
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 11, 7:01=A0am, "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> You often get upset at people telling lies. Either you grossly
> misunderstood some statements, or someone told you several lies that
> caused you to write this. There was no Texas investigation which found
> that Truong was innocent, and there are no other expert reports
> concluding that the evidence does not point to Truong (if there were,
> wouldn't we all have heard this?) Are you upset with the people
> spreading these lies? I know that they were saying an expert had
> decided his report was inaccurate, when I had direct evidence to the
> contrary.
>
> Have you studied the issue of Truong claiming to have a PhD?
>
> In my opinion, the defence in this case has been a tissue of lies and
> smears; rather than responding to Motterhead's evidence, they
> immediately began to try to smear his name and those of others
> associated with any accuser.
>
> Doesn't this bother you a bit? It bothers me a great deal.
>
> Jerry Spinrad
>
> Jerry Spinrad
>
> On 9, 11:08=A0pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Posted in the =A0chessdiscussion.com forum by Tennessee Vols:
>
> > "Brain Lafferty does have clear and present malice towards the United
> > States Chess Federation. If someone does feel it is a cheap shot at
> > him, or, some other negative term: it is not my personal wish to
> > degrade or undermine Brain Lafferty. It was pointed out by some that
> > my statements dealing with Brain Lafferty were ad hominem in nature.
>
> > What I find is the most striking with the current lawsuits, as the
> > report that started the Fake Sam Sloan investigation has not received
> > any support outside of the United States Chess Federation. Independent
> > investigations at the governmental level and with other organizations
> > have found nothing. In fact, the Texas Attorney General Office that
> > ran an investigation is seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed. Even
> > the debate within the United States Chess Federation Issues Forum with
> > the recall campaign has gone cold with only old and long winded
> > comments.
>
> > They have made comments if Paul Truong resigns, the lawsuit will be
> > dismissed and the recall campaign will be dissolved. Is it not strange
> > they say my comments against Brain Lafferty were ad hominem when their
> > actions against Paul Truong are not; their actions against Paul Truong
> > and Susan Polgar have been more ad hominem then my comments with Brain
> > Lafferty.
>
> > There are a number of preexisting factors with these lawsuits, and
> > forcing the United States Chess Federation into bankruptcy is one
> > factor. In my personal judgment, the lawsuits to force the United
> > States Chess Federation are the weakest as it is more as a mode of
> > brinkmanship. The lawsuits are political in nature and such they are
> > being done to get the United States Chess Federation Executive Board
> > into the barging table then the courtroom.
>
> > Still, the lawsuits do suppresses the memberships and suppresses the
> > organizers. As debating the idea bankruptcy could happen because of
> > lawsuits gives preexisting members and possible and current organizers
> > to question the higher risk factor of bankruptcy. As a tournament
> > director and a organizer that plans to organize events in Knoxville
> > Tennessee with weekend tournaments with Category C events as early as
> > 2010: debating bankruptcy does add higher risk factors. In fact, the
> > current lawsuits and the current state of the United States Executive
> > Board have made be put off from organizing the first event in 2009
> > till 2010 because of the risk factor."
> > .
>
> > "- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Jerry,
I didn't write that piece.. I was just reporting what had been written
on another forum. I didn't mean to confuse anyone. Sorry if I did.
Rob
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You often get upset at people telling lies. Either you grossly
misunderstood some statements, or someone told you several lies that
caused you to write this. There was no Texas investigation which found
that Truong was innocent, and there are no other expert reports
concluding that the evidence does not point to Truong (if there were,
wouldn't we all have heard this?) Are you upset with the people
spreading these lies? I know that they were saying an expert had
decided his report was inaccurate, when I had direct evidence to the
contrary.
Have you studied the issue of Truong claiming to have a PhD?
In my opinion, the defence in this case has been a tissue of lies and
smears; rather than responding to Motterhead's evidence, they
immediately began to try to smear his name and those of others
associated with any accuser.
Doesn't this bother you a bit? It bothers me a great deal.
Jerry Spinrad
Jerry Spinrad
On 9, 11:08=A0pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Posted in the =A0chessdiscussion.com forum by Tennessee Vols:
>
> "Brain Lafferty does have clear and present malice towards the United
> States Chess Federation. If someone does feel it is a cheap shot at
> him, or, some other negative term: it is not my personal wish to
> degrade or undermine Brain Lafferty. It was pointed out by some that
> my statements dealing with Brain Lafferty were ad hominem in nature.
>
> What I find is the most striking with the current lawsuits, as the
> report that started the Fake Sam Sloan investigation has not received
> any support outside of the United States Chess Federation. Independent
> investigations at the governmental level and with other organizations
> have found nothing. In fact, the Texas Attorney General Office that
> ran an investigation is seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed. Even
> the debate within the United States Chess Federation Issues Forum with
> the recall campaign has gone cold with only old and long winded
> comments.
>
> They have made comments if Paul Truong resigns, the lawsuit will be
> dismissed and the recall campaign will be dissolved. Is it not strange
> they say my comments against Brain Lafferty were ad hominem when their
> actions against Paul Truong are not; their actions against Paul Truong
> and Susan Polgar have been more ad hominem then my comments with Brain
> Lafferty.
>
> There are a number of preexisting factors with these lawsuits, and
> forcing the United States Chess Federation into bankruptcy is one
> factor. In my personal judgment, the lawsuits to force the United
> States Chess Federation are the weakest as it is more as a mode of
> brinkmanship. The lawsuits are political in nature and such they are
> being done to get the United States Chess Federation Executive Board
> into the barging table then the courtroom.
>
> Still, the lawsuits do suppresses the memberships and suppresses the
> organizers. As debating the idea bankruptcy could happen because of
> lawsuits gives preexisting members and possible and current organizers
> to question the higher risk factor of bankruptcy. As a tournament
> director and a organizer that plans to organize events in Knoxville
> Tennessee with weekend tournaments with Category C events as early as
> 2010: debating bankruptcy does add higher risk factors. In fact, the
> current lawsuits and the current state of the United States Executive
> Board have made be put off from organizing the first event in 2009
> till 2010 because of the risk factor."
> .
>
> "
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Date: 10 Mar 2008 16:59:17
From:
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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[email protected] wrote:
> On 9, 11:08=EF=BF=BDpm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Posted in the =EF=BF=BDchessdiscussion.com forum by Tennessee Vols:
> >
> > "Brain Lafferty does have clear and present malice towards the United
> > States Chess Federation. If someone does feel it is a cheap shot at
> > him, or, some other negative term: it is not my personal wish to
> > degrade or undermine Brain Lafferty. It was pointed out by some that
> > my statements dealing with Brain Lafferty were ad hominem in nature.
> >
> > What I find is the most striking with the current lawsuits, as the
> > report that started the Fake Sam Sloan investigation has not received
> > any support outside of the United States Chess Federation. Independent
> > investigations at the governmental level and with other organizations
> > have found nothing. In fact, the Texas Attorney General Office that
> > ran an investigation is seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed.
>
> I don't believe that is accurate. Texas sought to have the case
> against them dismissed, since (besides some technical legal issues I
> do not understand) they are not responsible for everything that is
> posted from a Texas Tech computer. I think they are right, and that
> Texas is not to blame on the issue. I have never seen any claim that
> Texas ran an investigation and found that the messages were not posted
> from their computers, as you seem to imply here. If you have evidence
> of this, show it; we would all love to see it.
>
> Even
> > the debate within the United States Chess Federation Issues Forum with
> > the recall campaign has gone cold with only old and long winded
> > comments.
> >
> > They have made comments if Paul Truong resigns, the lawsuit will be
> > dismissed and the recall campaign will be dissolved. Is it not strange
> > they say my comments against Brain Lafferty were ad hominem when their
> > actions against Paul Truong are not; their actions against Paul Truong
> > and Susan Polgar have been more ad hominem then my comments with Brain
> > Lafferty.
> >
> > There are a number of preexisting factors with these lawsuits, and
> > forcing the United States Chess Federation into bankruptcy is one
> > factor. In my personal judgment, the lawsuits to force the United
> > States Chess Federation are the weakest as it is more as a mode of
> > brinkmanship. The lawsuits are political in nature and such they are
> > being done to get the United States Chess Federation Executive Board
> > into the barging table then the courtroom.
> >
> > Still, the lawsuits do suppresses the memberships and suppresses the
> > organizers. As debating the idea bankruptcy could happen because of
> > lawsuits gives preexisting members and possible and current organizers
> > to question the higher risk factor of bankruptcy. As a tournament
> > director and a organizer that plans to organize events in Knoxville
> > Tennessee with weekend tournaments with Category C events as early as
> > 2010: debating bankruptcy does add higher risk factors. In fact, the
> > current lawsuits and the current state of the United States Executive
> > Board have made be put off from organizing the first event in 2009
> > till 2010 because of the risk factor."
The Texas AG raised two points, either of which would be sufficient to
get that part of the suit tossed. 1) 11th Amendment -- A state
government, or an agency of a state government, cannot be sued in
Federal court without the state's consent, except under special
circumstances which do not apply here. 2) 47 USC 230 -- An
"interactive service provider" has statutory immunity for anything
posted/sent by a third party over their system. I doubt they conducted
an "investigation." Since the complaint is a loser as matter of law,
doing so would simply be a waste of money.
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Date: 10 Mar 2008 06:49:49
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 10, 7:44=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> He started attacking Beatriz inello here (before he attacked anyone
> else) because she was then USCF President, after he was turned down
> for those jobs.
That is a lie. To my recollection I have not personally attacked
Beatriz inello. Please provide proof.
it is difficult to imagine that
> anybody could be worse than the person who actually was hired, Bill
> Hall.
Bill Hall has been much more tolerant of you than you deserve. You are
lucky he is the ED.
> Sam Sloan
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On 9, 11:08=A0pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Posted in the =A0chessdiscussion.com forum by Tennessee Vols:
>
> "Brain Lafferty does have clear and present malice towards the United
> States Chess Federation. If someone does feel it is a cheap shot at
> him, or, some other negative term: it is not my personal wish to
> degrade or undermine Brain Lafferty. It was pointed out by some that
> my statements dealing with Brain Lafferty were ad hominem in nature.
>
> What I find is the most striking with the current lawsuits, as the
> report that started the Fake Sam Sloan investigation has not received
> any support outside of the United States Chess Federation. Independent
> investigations at the governmental level and with other organizations
> have found nothing. In fact, the Texas Attorney General Office that
> ran an investigation is seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed.
I don't believe that is accurate. Texas sought to have the case
against them dismissed, since (besides some technical legal issues I
do not understand) they are not responsible for everything that is
posted from a Texas Tech computer. I think they are right, and that
Texas is not to blame on the issue. I have never seen any claim that
Texas ran an investigation and found that the messages were not posted
from their computers, as you seem to imply here. If you have evidence
of this, show it; we would all love to see it.
Even
> the debate within the United States Chess Federation Issues Forum with
> the recall campaign has gone cold with only old and long winded
> comments.
>
> They have made comments if Paul Truong resigns, the lawsuit will be
> dismissed and the recall campaign will be dissolved. Is it not strange
> they say my comments against Brain Lafferty were ad hominem when their
> actions against Paul Truong are not; their actions against Paul Truong
> and Susan Polgar have been more ad hominem then my comments with Brain
> Lafferty.
>
> There are a number of preexisting factors with these lawsuits, and
> forcing the United States Chess Federation into bankruptcy is one
> factor. In my personal judgment, the lawsuits to force the United
> States Chess Federation are the weakest as it is more as a mode of
> brinkmanship. The lawsuits are political in nature and such they are
> being done to get the United States Chess Federation Executive Board
> into the barging table then the courtroom.
>
> Still, the lawsuits do suppresses the memberships and suppresses the
> organizers. As debating the idea bankruptcy could happen because of
> lawsuits gives preexisting members and possible and current organizers
> to question the higher risk factor of bankruptcy. As a tournament
> director and a organizer that plans to organize events in Knoxville
> Tennessee with weekend tournaments with Category C events as early as
> 2010: debating bankruptcy does add higher risk factors. In fact, the
> current lawsuits and the current state of the United States Executive
> Board have made be put off from organizing the first event in 2009
> till 2010 because of the risk factor."
> .
>
> "
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Date: 10 Mar 2008 05:45:22
From:
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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samsloan wrote:
> On 3, 1:35 pm, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > There are advantages of being in a small town (costs of many things
> > are cheaper), and advantages of being in a big city. The USCF is
> > hardly the only, and certainly not the largest, organization that
> > thought it might be a good idea to cut costs by moving to rural
> > Tennessee. That doesn't mean the decision is automatically correct,
> > but it is not laughable on its face. You will also find people who are
> > willing to move to a nice small city, while you will find others who
> > would not dream of it for a second.
> >
> > Jerry Spinrad
>
> That was the theory behind the move to Crossville.
>
> Unfortunately, the reality turned out to be that costs are higher in
> Crossville than they were in New Windsor.
>
> Regarding salaries, every person working in Crossville is receiving a
> higher salary then his counterpart was receiving in New Windsor.
>
> I attribute this in large part to the fact that Bill Hall has no
> experience as a manager and has made no effort to keep costs down. In
> fact our costs keep going up and up with no explanation from Bill
> Hall.
>
> Sam Sloan
As opposed to, say, you? Have you held any job other than cab driver
since the 1970s?
While there was some talk of personnel costs being lower in
Crossville, the real point of the move was that it allowed a cash-
strapped USCF to convert a piece of real estate (which needed some
fairly expensive repair work) into liquid assets. It's true they now
have to pay a mortgage on the building (they got the land free), but
that's less than they would have had to pay for a straight line of
credit, evrn assuming they could get it. There were plausible
arguments against the move as well, but none of those made by the
innumerate Sloan were even worth listening to.
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Date: 10 Mar 2008 05:44:47
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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It is important to point out again that Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell is
not a USCF Member and had never played in a rated chess tournament. He
has only joined the USCF once and that was just so that he could apply
for a job first as scholastic director and then as executive director.
He started attacking Beatriz inello here (before he attacked anyone
else) because she was then USCF President, after he was turned down
for those jobs.
We can all be thankful that Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell was not hired
(and hopefully never will be) although it is difficult to imagine that
anybody could be worse than the person who actually was hired, Bill
Hall.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 10 Mar 2008 04:14:19
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 9, 11:38 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 3, 1:35 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > There are advantages of being in a small town (costs of many things
> > are cheaper), and advantages of being in a big city. The USCF is
> > hardly the only, and certainly not the largest, organization that
> > thought it might be a good idea to cut costs by moving to rural
> > Tennessee. That doesn't mean the decision is automatically correct,
> > but it is not laughable on its face. You will also find people who are
> > willing to move to a nice small city, while you will find others who
> > would not dream of it for a second.
>
> > Jerry Spinrad
>
> That was the theory behind the move to Crossville.
> Unfortunately, the reality turned out to be that costs are higher in
> Crossville than they were in New Windsor.
The cost to defend frivilous lawsuits filed by SLoan are a cost no one
can manage with any ease.
> Regarding salaries, every person working in Crossville is receiving a
> higher salary then his counterpart was receiving in New Windsor.
>
> I attribute this in large part to the fact that Bill Hall has no
> experience as a manager and has made no effort to keep costs down. In
> fact our costs keep going up and up with no explanation from Bill
> Hall.
>
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 09 Mar 2008 21:38:52
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 3, 1:35 pm, "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:
>
> There are advantages of being in a small town (costs of many things
> are cheaper), and advantages of being in a big city. The USCF is
> hardly the only, and certainly not the largest, organization that
> thought it might be a good idea to cut costs by moving to rural
> Tennessee. That doesn't mean the decision is automatically correct,
> but it is not laughable on its face. You will also find people who are
> willing to move to a nice small city, while you will find others who
> would not dream of it for a second.
>
> Jerry Spinrad
That was the theory behind the move to Crossville.
Unfortunately, the reality turned out to be that costs are higher in
Crossville than they were in New Windsor.
Regarding salaries, every person working in Crossville is receiving a
higher salary then his counterpart was receiving in New Windsor.
I attribute this in large part to the fact that Bill Hall has no
experience as a manager and has made no effort to keep costs down. In
fact our costs keep going up and up with no explanation from Bill
Hall.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 09 Mar 2008 21:08:18
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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Posted in the chessdiscussion.com forum by Tennessee Vols:
"Brain Lafferty does have clear and present malice towards the United
States Chess Federation. If someone does feel it is a cheap shot at
him, or, some other negative term: it is not my personal wish to
degrade or undermine Brain Lafferty. It was pointed out by some that
my statements dealing with Brain Lafferty were ad hominem in nature.
What I find is the most striking with the current lawsuits, as the
report that started the Fake Sam Sloan investigation has not received
any support outside of the United States Chess Federation. Independent
investigations at the governmental level and with other organizations
have found nothing. In fact, the Texas Attorney General Office that
ran an investigation is seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed. Even
the debate within the United States Chess Federation Issues Forum with
the recall campaign has gone cold with only old and long winded
comments.
They have made comments if Paul Truong resigns, the lawsuit will be
dismissed and the recall campaign will be dissolved. Is it not strange
they say my comments against Brain Lafferty were ad hominem when their
actions against Paul Truong are not; their actions against Paul Truong
and Susan Polgar have been more ad hominem then my comments with Brain
Lafferty.
There are a number of preexisting factors with these lawsuits, and
forcing the United States Chess Federation into bankruptcy is one
factor. In my personal judgment, the lawsuits to force the United
States Chess Federation are the weakest as it is more as a mode of
brinkmanship. The lawsuits are political in nature and such they are
being done to get the United States Chess Federation Executive Board
into the barging table then the courtroom.
Still, the lawsuits do suppresses the memberships and suppresses the
organizers. As debating the idea bankruptcy could happen because of
lawsuits gives preexisting members and possible and current organizers
to question the higher risk factor of bankruptcy. As a tournament
director and a organizer that plans to organize events in Knoxville
Tennessee with weekend tournaments with Category C events as early as
2010: debating bankruptcy does add higher risk factors. In fact, the
current lawsuits and the current state of the United States Executive
Board have made be put off from organizing the first event in 2009
till 2010 because of the risk factor."
.
"
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I know this is intended to be humorous, but the notion that Crossville
is Deliverance territory plus meth labs has been repeated often enough
so that some people might believe it. There are places in Tennessee
which would fit some of the stereotypes; Crossville is not one of
them. I am a city person myself, and would not choose Crossville as my
ideal home. However, it is a prosperous small city, which gets a lot
of its support from tourism; there is a large resort, and
opportunities for outdoor activities of all sorts. Clearly many people
enjoy going there, and you are not going to run into meth addicts or
violent rednecks on the streets of the city.
There are advantages of being in a small town (costs of many things
are cheaper), and advantages of being in a big city. The USCF is
hardly the only, and certainly not the largest, organization that
thought it might be a good idea to cut costs by moving to rural
Tennessee. That doesn't mean the decision is automatically correct,
but it is not laughable on its face. You will also find people who are
willing to move to a nice small city, while you will find others who
would not dream of it for a second.
I love telling jokes about Tennessee myself; I start getting a little
worried when my relatives seem to believe that the most absurd stories
are strictly true. I have been told that many years ago a sheriff in
the backwoods of Tennessee was found in a hotel room with a stolen
sheep, and that Nashville TV stations announced the story by saying
that the sheriff had been a baa-a-a-d boy. I'm not sure that I believe
it, however. I do know that the Davidson County sheriff was convicted
of stealing meat from the prison for his barbecues. Just to be clear,
the barbecue meat was good; he was caught because the quality of some
of the meat the prison was ordering was too good for prison food. On
the other hand, I once lived in the Chicago area, and know some pretty
funny stories about the politicians there as well. It doesn't mean I
would attack a move to Chicago on that basis.
Jerry Spinrad
On 3, 9:17=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> MIKE'S RIGHT
>
> >I don't think a reinvigorated sales program would be the
>
> Fed's salvation. For one thing, back when it worked, you
> didn't have discounters such as Amazon with their 20-30
> percentoff on new items, and their used book program with
> its huge aggregation of used book dealers. Factor in E-bay,
> Barnes & Noble, Borders...it would be tough.>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Mike Murray makes his point well. =A0Further, I
> ought not to have written, "First off." =A0A sales
> program is not the first thing that needs doing,
> though I believe an organization devoted to chess
> with lots of people with chess expertise can still
> out-compete discount outfits. =A0But it would take Al
> Lawrence's semi-insane dedication of yesteryear to the
> USCF -- and that would be just the start. Furthermore,
> sales of chess computers no longer can keep such a
> program afloat.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 And, as noted, Al would have to give up the
> horror of living in a beautiful area of the Hudson
> Valley and that hideous necessity of inhabiting his
> plantation-like home in Florida for the joy of camping
> out at a local trailer court in Cross-to-Bear, Tennessee.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Still, the area =A0does have its forests and those
> Deliverance-like dudes with beards and white
> crystals. =A0Barbeque, too. =A0Secondhand pickups are
> probably a drug on the Cross-to-Bear ket, so Al
> could have two or three -- along with the pleasure of
> working for chess politicians on the Executive Board.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 The pickup trucks and schmoozing with the two
> Randys would be, arguendo, the most attractive aspects
> of the USCF's executive director job. =A0And, to be
> sure, there would be sparkling social evenings with
> Bill Goichberg, brimming with light badinage and the
> tinkling titter of silvery laughter. =A0(Al can watch
> Bill move his lips as he leafs and reads through
> volumes of classic Binfos from 25 years back. =A0It
> doesn't get much better than that from the
> Cross-to-Bear social angle.)
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Perhaps the prospect, nay promise, of a weekly
> dinner with Bill Goichberg, who promises to eschew
> chewing with his mouth wide open so that specks of food
> no longer land on one's shirt sleeves and cummerbund,
> would remove whatever scintilla of doubt Al might
> entertain about reassuming the post of Federation ED.
>
> Yours, Larry Parr
>
>
>
> Mike Murray wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 2008 18:41:29 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0But Sam: =A0you and I know that Al would be NUTS,
> > >NUTS, NUTS to take the job. =A0First off, he would have
> > >to rebuild the sales program which is well-nigh impossible.
>
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0That means giving up his life once again and
> > >putting out catalogues after proofing and reproofing
> > >and redesigning sales pages up to 20 times per
> > >catalogue. =A0(I seem to remember one particular
> > >catalogue page that went back and forth 28 times --
> > >perhaps a record. =A0That's work, that's hell.)
>
> > I don't think a reinvigorated sales program would be the Fed's
> > salvation. =A0For one thing, back when it worked, you didn't have
> > discounters such as Amazon with their 20-30 percent off on new items,
> > and their used book program with its huge aggregation of used book
> > dealers. =A0Factor in E-bay, Barnes & Noble, Borders... it would be
> > tough.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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MIKE'S RIGHT
>I don't think a reinvigorated sales program would be the
Fed's salvation. For one thing, back when it worked, you
didn't have discounters such as Amazon with their 20-30
percentoff on new items, and their used book program with
its huge aggregation of used book dealers. Factor in E-bay,
Barnes & Noble, Borders...it would be tough. >
Mike Murray makes his point well. Further, I
ought not to have written, "First off." A sales
program is not the first thing that needs doing,
though I believe an organization devoted to chess
with lots of people with chess expertise can still
out-compete discount outfits. But it would take Al
Lawrence's semi-insane dedication of yesteryear to the
USCF -- and that would be just the start. Furthermore,
sales of chess computers no longer can keep such a
program afloat.
And, as noted, Al would have to give up the
horror of living in a beautiful area of the Hudson
Valley and that hideous necessity of inhabiting his
plantation-like home in Florida for the joy of camping
out at a local trailer court in Cross-to-Bear, Tennessee.
Still, the area does have its forests and those
Deliverance-like dudes with beards and white
crystals. Barbeque, too. Secondhand pickups are
probably a drug on the Cross-to-Bear ket, so Al
could have two or three -- along with the pleasure of
working for chess politicians on the Executive Board.
The pickup trucks and schmoozing with the two
Randys would be, arguendo, the most attractive aspects
of the USCF's executive director job. And, to be
sure, there would be sparkling social evenings with
Bill Goichberg, brimming with light badinage and the
tinkling titter of silvery laughter. (Al can watch
Bill move his lips as he leafs and reads through
volumes of classic Binfos from 25 years back. It
doesn't get much better than that from the
Cross-to-Bear social angle.)
Perhaps the prospect, nay promise, of a weekly
dinner with Bill Goichberg, who promises to eschew
chewing with his mouth wide open so that specks of food
no longer land on one's shirt sleeves and cummerbund,
would remove whatever scintilla of doubt Al might
entertain about reassuming the post of Federation ED.
Yours, Larry Parr
Mike Murray wrote:
> On Sun, 2 2008 18:41:29 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > But Sam: you and I know that Al would be NUTS,
> >NUTS, NUTS to take the job. First off, he would have
> >to rebuild the sales program which is well-nigh impossible.
>
> > That means giving up his life once again and
> >putting out catalogues after proofing and reproofing
> >and redesigning sales pages up to 20 times per
> >catalogue. (I seem to remember one particular
> >catalogue page that went back and forth 28 times --
> >perhaps a record. That's work, that's hell.)
>
> I don't think a reinvigorated sales program would be the Fed's
> salvation. For one thing, back when it worked, you didn't have
> discounters such as Amazon with their 20-30 percent off on new items,
> and their used book program with its huge aggregation of used book
> dealers. Factor in E-bay, Barnes & Noble, Borders... it would be
> tough.
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FEARLESS PREDICTION
The perceptive Sam Sloan -- and, yes, he was
right once again that following the U.S. Open, there
would be a sudden accounting reanalysis showing a
larger USCF loss -- may be right that Al Lawrence is
the man for the job in ... Cross-to-Bear, Tennessee,
somewhere in the mountains, out there in the forests,
among the methamphetamine folk with the pickup trucks.
It might indeed help the Federation were Al to
forsake his plantation-like home in Florida and his
lovely place up in New York and move to the mountains
somewhere in Deliverance country..
But Sam: you and I know that Al would be NUTS,
NUTS, NUTS to take the job. First off, he would have
to rebuild the sales program which is well-nigh impossible.
That means giving up his life once again and
putting out catalogues after proofing and reproofing
and redesigning sales pages up to 20 times per
catalogue. (I seem to remember one particular
catalogue page that went back and forth 28 times --
perhaps a record. That's work, that's hell.)
My fearless prediction: Al won't take the job.
Yours, Larry Parr
samsloan wrote:
> I am convinced that as long as Bill Hall is Executive Director we will
> continue to lose money. Bill Hall is terrible. He has no idea how to
> run an business. He should have been fired years ago. Even Frank Niro
> would be better than Bill Hall.
>
> What we should do is bring back Al Lawrence. Al Lawrence was at the US
> Amateur Team East two weeks ago. I heard that he is no longer working
> for the World Chess Hall of Fame.
>
> Al Lawrence turned a surplus for the USCF every one of the eight years
> that he was Executive Director. He is the man we need.
>
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 02 Mar 2008 18:59:48
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On Sun, 2 2008 18:41:29 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> But Sam: you and I know that Al would be NUTS,
>NUTS, NUTS to take the job. First off, he would have
>to rebuild the sales program which is well-nigh impossible.
> That means giving up his life once again and
>putting out catalogues after proofing and reproofing
>and redesigning sales pages up to 20 times per
>catalogue. (I seem to remember one particular
>catalogue page that went back and forth 28 times --
>perhaps a record. That's work, that's hell.)
I don't think a reinvigorated sales program would be the Fed's
salvation. For one thing, back when it worked, you didn't have
discounters such as Amazon with their 20-30 percent off on new items,
and their used book program with its huge aggregation of used book
dealers. Factor in E-bay, Barnes & Noble, Borders... it would be
tough.
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 14:23:36
From:
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 1, 11:27=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:1c022748-f0cd-4d9e-aff5-dcdd2c11af03@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...=
>
> >> Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
> >> now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
> >> Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.
>
> > I wouldn't call them ships, they are basically kayaks converted into war=
> > canoes - but it is true that the portage section from Lake Champlain whe=
re
> > the mighty kayak fleet usually resides to ward off new York SUVs, is now=
> > headed directly away from where we understand these Chess Islands to be,=
> > so the fleet is headed North - which I understand is the quickest way ou=
t
> > of here, though how they will get up the frozen St. Lawrence is best kno=
wn
> > to expedition leader, Commodore "Mohican" Kingston who is out of TomTom
> > range.
>
> Several people have written in asking what happened to Admiral Lex Mitchel=
l,
> and the truth is that he has been demoted to MidShipPerson rank for
> suggesting that the Independent Republic's Navy 'take back' Newfoundland.
>
> The consensus of the crew was that we already lived in a cold inhospitable=
> region, why take another just the same? And besides, the South lost, and
> were not to be trusted in important matters such as international theft an=
d
> invasions.
>
> MidShipPerson "lex" Mitchell now runs the 3-decker slave-kayak, which migh=
t
> also explain the absense of Neil Brennan and the Line Judge from these
> pages.
>
> > cus can rest easy for probably a couple years, since there is some
> > general talk of 'taking back Newfoundland on the way,' and also "if to
> > stock up on Cuban cigars coming or going or both, and if they take syrup=
> > in exchange what's a good barter rate?"
>
> Commodore Kingston has also suffered a name-change and is now First Comrad=
e
> Kingston, but he gets to wear a star on his beret. His last message of
> substance regrets the delay, but the ine Corps consisting entirely of
> Ethan-Allen boys, Jeff and Todd, insisted on bringing their chariot, which=
> also has to be dragged across most of Quebec. They say they hope to pick u=
p
> a donkey to pull it when the reach the Islands, since all islands have
> donkeys, besides, its good for putting booty in.
>
> Just like USCF, the Expedition Force is having Mission problems - and the
> whole point of attacking the fabled Chess Islands has come into question. =
It
> is thought that the Islands must contain coconuts since, as ani ful no, al=
l
> islands do, but, in the words of Sergeant Sister-y, "who needs more
> blessed coconuts?"
>
> Instead, considering the recently geopolitical changes, there are plans to=
> attack Cuba instead, but to continue to talk about the Chess Islands as a
> clever // diversion // !
>
>
>
> > Phil Innes
> > Governor General
> > South-East ches.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Phil
The chess islands don't need chess. We claim a right at international
law to vote within FIDE. The nation state appears to me to be at war
with FIDE.
Formally, the little nation state of 40,000 people is at war with the
World Chess Assocation. The IOC President won't make Ilyumzhinov
respond.
The issue is if, at international law, we are able to cast our VOTE in
2010 in the FIDE PResidential Elections.
My reading is that Kirsan Ilyumzhinov is just being a dictator. We
have every right to join FIDE, now, with a VOTE. However, Ilyumzhionv
will probably start blackmailing my governemnt and trying to throw me
in jail.
Now, if the Judge would help me go through some international law
scenarios, that would be nice, but I get no help.
What is an Ambassador worth to a JUDGE. He can't make fun of me any
more.
Nobody wants to work. War is work!
I am not honestly certain will join FIDE. We can play these games with
diplomatic immunity, where FIDE tries to arrest me, and I can't be
arrested, and I can't
speak, and the police come, and everyone is arrested. Or, the IOC can
blackmail FIDE.
I would like to simply understand what I tell my leadship to do on St
Kitts and Nevis to VOTE within FIDE. Nobody wil help
me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cus Roberts
Permanent Delegate (Ambassador) of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 18:01:03
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 1, 11:27 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
Phil
The chess islands don't need chess. We claim a right at international
law to vote within FIDE. The nation state appears to me to be at war
with FIDE.
**cus, as i wrote privately, challenging Fide is potentially dangerous to
you and to yours, your family and even your Islands. That is not the only
possible strategy, since in the West we admit Competition as prime force.
And that force generates USA, and all the democracies. Otherwise you are
some Hungary in some '56. Romantic and tragic, neh? Why are you so in awe of
how USCF have treated with Fide? Are there no other ideas at all?
**instead, play your own game like a true chess player, which is possible
for you from your own base - you will see my other message - and if people
still want to attend to kalmykia rather than the delights of your islands,
that is their choice, and who would choose one over the other?
**this is always true in revolution - whether to compete for power, or
whether to compete for influence? The novel 'Dr. Zhivago' addresses this
topic. essentially you can be tragically and romantically dead, or take part
in some other idea entirely, which good/bad old usa has had a bash at these
past few hundred years.
PI
Formally, the little nation state of 40,000 people is at war with the
World Chess Assocation. The IOC President won't make Ilyumzhinov
respond.
The issue is if, at international law, we are able to cast our VOTE in
2010 in the FIDE PResidential Elections.
My reading is that Kirsan Ilyumzhinov is just being a dictator. We
have every right to join FIDE, now, with a VOTE. However, Ilyumzhionv
will probably start blackmailing my governemnt and trying to throw me
in jail.
Now, if the Judge would help me go through some international law
scenarios, that would be nice, but I get no help.
What is an Ambassador worth to a JUDGE. He can't make fun of me any
more.
Nobody wants to work. War is work!
I am not honestly certain will join FIDE. We can play these games with
diplomatic immunity, where FIDE tries to arrest me, and I can't be
arrested, and I can't
speak, and the police come, and everyone is arrested. Or, the IOC can
blackmail FIDE.
I would like to simply understand what I tell my leadship to do on St
Kitts and Nevis to VOTE within FIDE. Nobody wil help
me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cus Roberts
Permanent Delegate (Ambassador) of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 13:50:03
From:
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 1, 3:34=A0pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote:
> Chess One wrote:
> > "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:1c022748-f0cd-4d9e-aff5-dcdd2c11af03@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com..=
.
>
> >>> Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
> >>> now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
> >>> Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.
> >> I wouldn't call them ships, they are basically kayaks converted into wa=
r
> >> canoes - but it is true that the portage section from Lake Champlain wh=
ere
> >> the mighty kayak fleet usually resides to ward off new York SUVs, is no=
w
> >> headed directly away from where we understand these Chess Islands to be=
,
> >> so the fleet is headed North - which I understand is the quickest way o=
ut
> >> of here, though how they will get up the frozen St. Lawrence is best kn=
own
> >> to expedition leader, Commodore "Mohican" Kingston who is out of TomTom=
> >> range.
>
> > Several people have written in asking what happened to Admiral Lex Mitch=
ell,
> > and the truth is that he has been demoted to MidShipPerson rank for
> > suggesting that the Independent Republic's Navy 'take back' Newfoundland=
.
>
> > The consensus of the crew was that we already lived in a cold inhospitab=
le
> > region, why take another just the same? And besides, the South lost, and=
> > were not to be trusted in important matters such as international theft =
and
> > invasions.
>
> Newfoundland in winter is much milder than Vermont. =A0More good beers/ale=
> too.
>
>
>
>
>
> > MidShipPerson "lex" Mitchell now runs the 3-decker slave-kayak, which mi=
ght
> > also explain the absense of Neil Brennan and the Line Judge from these
> > pages.
>
> >> cus can rest easy for probably a couple years, since there is some
> >> general talk of 'taking back Newfoundland on the way,' and also "if to
> >> stock up on Cuban cigars coming or going or both, and if they take syru=
p
> >> in exchange what's a good barter rate?"
>
> > Commodore Kingston has also suffered a name-change and is now First Comr=
ade
> > Kingston, but he gets to wear a star on his beret. His last message of
> > substance regrets the delay, but the ine Corps consisting entirely of=
> > Ethan-Allen boys, Jeff and Todd, insisted on bringing their chariot, whi=
ch
> > also has to be dragged across most of Quebec. They say they hope to pick=
up
> > a donkey to pull it when the reach the Islands, since all islands have
> > donkeys, besides, its good for putting booty in.
>
> > Just like USCF, the Expedition Force is having Mission problems - and th=
e
> > whole point of attacking the fabled Chess Islands has come into question=
. It
> > is thought that the Islands must contain coconuts since, as ani ful no, =
all
> > islands do, but, in the words of Sergeant Sister-y, "who needs more
> > blessed coconuts?"
>
> > Instead, considering the recently geopolitical changes, there are plans =
to
> > attack Cuba instead, but to continue to talk about the Chess Islands as =
a
> > clever // diversion // !
>
> >> Phil Innes
> >> Governor General
> >> South-East ches.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I would not attack Cuba. They would shoot Allen Herbert and Bill
Kellhner for this. Cuba would be quite
harsh against this. Cuba punishes espoinage by death, when it is like
this.
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 17:41:21
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:d6d8f0f2-5750-448e-bd19-22e616463e98@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
I would not attack Cuba. They would shoot Allen Herbert and Bill
Kellhner for this. Cuba would be quite
harsh against this. Cuba punishes espoinage by death, when it is like
this.
--
Sir, our attack is to priily make a show of force - 21 Vermonters in 5
vessels are, you admit, intimidating to ex-dictators in Cuba?
After this 'salute' earnest trade negotiations will take place between the
two sovereign entities. I take your post as meaning that St. Kitts and Nevis
have nothing to offer but coconuts and rum [brewed elsewhere] which is very
little to recommend our invasion of your Island.
It would be far better if you proposed your dual estates as Chess Islands,
or some place worthy of our exploitation of you, properly done of course,
living wage being paid to your native peoples as they are not always done
here on the mainland USA! St. Lucia to your direct south is in strong
competition already. You better wise-up.
If we are to move that locus of chess in Kalmykia to your Islands, to which
I do not object in the least, and which would attract very much of the
Western World to your cause, please be at pains to explain the joys thereof
to the common people reading here.
In other words, do keting.
After all, who actually wants to go to Kirsan-city, an not-oasis in a Soviet
created dessert, replete with secret-police, when they instead could sit
around in the evenings sipping something with pineapple in it, under the
waving palm trees and watching the sun set across the deep blue and briny
sea?
I am available for keting purposes at reasonable rates, and do not even
need a stretch limo to operate effectively. Please consider this serious
proposal, and then we can team up, take on Fide, USCF, SMERSH, and the
British Umpah!
You remember the old advertising slogan for Red Stripe? "It puts it back".
Whatever that means, it did the trick, baby!
Cordially, Phil
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 12:03:38
From:
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 1, 7:00=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Feb 29, 10:13 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I just e-mailed Al Lawrence in Hong Kong and he won't e-mail me back.
> > Al is off
> > in the Republic of China. Al is setting up these FAKE chess
> > assocaitions in ROC. Actually,
> > Al tried to throw me in jail in New York in 1992. Does Al work for the
> > CIA? Why is he
> > in Hong Kong, on my allies terrtory, trying to hurt my govenrment?
>
> > I told him that it would not work to throw me in jail outside the USA
> > anymore, but
> > I am certain he will try to arrest me.
>
> > You can have Al back! You just ask him what is he doing in Republic of
> > China
> > and why is he setting up fake chess associations for the CIA or
> > whoever and working
> > with General Secretary Ignatius Leong?
>
> > cus roberts
> > Permanent Delegate (Ambassador) of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
>
> Al Lawrence is in New York. He is not in Hong Kong.
>
> Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
> now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
> Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.- Hid=
e quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Al Lawrence was in the Republic of China setting up a fake chess
assocaition. He knows the ROC
FIDE Delegate, and FIDE General Secretary Ignatuis Leong. Al has
backstabbed me all over the world. Truly, a crazy
preacher. There are a lot of international politics behind these kind
of issues, and Al Lawrence
is HURTING AMERICA.
Al Lawrence is trying to overthorw a government in the Carribean when
he tells lies in ROC.
Al might be a Russian spy, not a CIA spy. These trips abroad to
interfere with other nations will stop. FIDE
needs no more fake chess associations. We have enough. We need to shut
down the CADCAC funding,
and shut down all of these lunatic from plotting revolution.
We are going to have some legal question for Al. Why was Al Lawrence
in the Republic of China, and WHO PAID FOR IT?
THE CIA?
cus Roberts
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 05:00:20
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On Feb 29, 10:13 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> I just e-mailed Al Lawrence in Hong Kong and he won't e-mail me back.
> Al is off
> in the Republic of China. Al is setting up these FAKE chess
> assocaitions in ROC. Actually,
> Al tried to throw me in jail in New York in 1992. Does Al work for the
> CIA? Why is he
> in Hong Kong, on my allies terrtory, trying to hurt my govenrment?
>
> I told him that it would not work to throw me in jail outside the USA
> anymore, but
> I am certain he will try to arrest me.
>
> You can have Al back! You just ask him what is he doing in Republic of
> China
> and why is he setting up fake chess associations for the CIA or
> whoever and working
> with General Secretary Ignatius Leong?
>
> cus roberts
> Permanent Delegate (Ambassador) of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
Al Lawrence is in New York. He is not in Hong Kong.
Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.
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Date: 11 Mar 2008 20:46:07
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 11, 1:31 pm, Mike Murray <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Tue, 11 2008 11:10:43 -0700 (PDT),
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >You missed the thrust of my argument. I was not saying you were trying
> >to mislead someone. I was saying that you had been misled by someone,
> >and was wondering whether you were angry about that.
> >Jerry Spinrad
>
> Heh, heh, heh. The post in question was one of TennesseeVol's more
> rational ones.
>
> One of his recent paranoid screeds on the ChessDiscussion forum argued
> that the Mottershead Report was a highly orchestrated conspiracy --
> he deduced this when he noticed that many posters were awake and
> posting rationally in the middle of the night when it was first
> announced!
>
> To quote from one of his gems: " During that night the people that
> have been against Susan Polgar and Paul Truong were posting and
> posting during the whole of the night. ...When reading the postings,
> the posters were clear and precise with their written comments during
> the hours when most people are sleeping in the United States of
> America and posting during their time zone were most people are
> sleeping. There posting were written without showing signs of being
> tired, in fact, their postings were written like they were well
> rested. If they were just posting, and posting after being up at their
> normal time of the day - they should shows signs of mental fatigue in
> their postings. When reading the postings, not I or anyone noticed or
> made comments that had errors because of mental fatigue within their
> comments, or, the comments of others."
>
> A word of advice to Rob: Listen to this dude too long and you'll be
> fitted with coats with very long sleeves.
That's perhaps the nuttiest theory the Trolgaristas have come up with
yet. I say yet because they have P Innes on their side.....
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Date: 11 Mar 2008 20:33:53
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On 11, 1:31 pm, Mike Murray <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Tue, 11 2008 11:10:43 -0700 (PDT),
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >You missed the thrust of my argument. I was not saying you were trying
> >to mislead someone. I was saying that you had been misled by someone,
> >and was wondering whether you were angry about that.
> >Jerry Spinrad
Jerry,
I don't take a great edeal of this stuff personally except lies
fostered by some people directly against me.
> Heh, heh, heh. The post in question was one of TennesseeVol's more
> rational ones.
>
> One of his recent paranoid screeds on the ChessDiscussion forum argued
> that the Mottershead Report was a highly orchestrated conspiracy --
> he deduced this when he noticed that many posters were awake and
> posting rationally in the middle of the night when it was first
> announced!
>
> To quote from one of his gems: " During that night the people that
> have been against Susan Polgar and Paul Truong were posting and
> posting during the whole of the night. ...When reading the postings,
> the posters were clear and precise with their written comments during
> the hours when most people are sleeping in the United States of
> America and posting during their time zone were most people are
> sleeping. There posting were written without showing signs of being
> tired, in fact, their postings were written like they were well
> rested. If they were just posting, and posting after being up at their
> normal time of the day - they should shows signs of mental fatigue in
> their postings. When reading the postings, not I or anyone noticed or
> made comments that had errors because of mental fatigue within their
> comments, or, the comments of others."
>
> A word of advice to Rob: Listen to this dude too long and you'll be
> fitted with coats with very long sleeves.
But Mike.. I have very long arms! LOL :-)
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 10:10:30
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:1c022748-f0cd-4d9e-aff5-dcdd2c11af03@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
> now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
> Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.
I wouldn't call them ships, they are basically kayaks converted into war
canoes - but it is true that the portage section from Lake Champlain where
the mighty kayak fleet usually resides to ward off new York SUVs, is now
headed directly away from where we understand these Chess Islands to be, so
the fleet is headed North - which I understand is the quickest way out of
here, though how they will get up the frozen St. Lawrence is best known to
expedition leader, Commodore "Mohican" Kingston who is out of TomTom range.
cus can rest easy for probably a couple years, since there is some
general talk of 'taking back Newfoundland on the way,' and also "if to stock
up on Cuban cigars coming or going or both, and if they take syrup in
exchange what's a good barter rate?"
Phil Innes
Governor General
South-East ches.
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 12:27:56
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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"Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1c022748-f0cd-4d9e-aff5-dcdd2c11af03@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
>> now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
>> Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.
>
> I wouldn't call them ships, they are basically kayaks converted into war
> canoes - but it is true that the portage section from Lake Champlain where
> the mighty kayak fleet usually resides to ward off new York SUVs, is now
> headed directly away from where we understand these Chess Islands to be,
> so the fleet is headed North - which I understand is the quickest way out
> of here, though how they will get up the frozen St. Lawrence is best known
> to expedition leader, Commodore "Mohican" Kingston who is out of TomTom
> range.
Several people have written in asking what happened to Admiral Lex Mitchell,
and the truth is that he has been demoted to MidShipPerson rank for
suggesting that the Independent Republic's Navy 'take back' Newfoundland.
The consensus of the crew was that we already lived in a cold inhospitable
region, why take another just the same? And besides, the South lost, and
were not to be trusted in important matters such as international theft and
invasions.
MidShipPerson "lex" Mitchell now runs the 3-decker slave-kayak, which might
also explain the absense of Neil Brennan and the Line Judge from these
pages.
> cus can rest easy for probably a couple years, since there is some
> general talk of 'taking back Newfoundland on the way,' and also "if to
> stock up on Cuban cigars coming or going or both, and if they take syrup
> in exchange what's a good barter rate?"
Commodore Kingston has also suffered a name-change and is now First Comrade
Kingston, but he gets to wear a star on his beret. His last message of
substance regrets the delay, but the ine Corps consisting entirely of
Ethan-Allen boys, Jeff and Todd, insisted on bringing their chariot, which
also has to be dragged across most of Quebec. They say they hope to pick up
a donkey to pull it when the reach the Islands, since all islands have
donkeys, besides, its good for putting booty in.
Just like USCF, the Expedition Force is having Mission problems - and the
whole point of attacking the fabled Chess Islands has come into question. It
is thought that the Islands must contain coconuts since, as ani ful no, all
islands do, but, in the words of Sergeant Sister-y, "who needs more
blessed coconuts?"
Instead, considering the recently geopolitical changes, there are plans to
attack Cuba instead, but to continue to talk about the Chess Islands as a
clever // diversion // !
> Phil Innes
> Governor General
> South-East ches.
>
>
>
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 21:34:05
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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Chess One wrote:
> "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:1c022748-f0cd-4d9e-aff5-dcdd2c11af03@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
>>> now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
>>> Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.
>> I wouldn't call them ships, they are basically kayaks converted into war
>> canoes - but it is true that the portage section from Lake Champlain where
>> the mighty kayak fleet usually resides to ward off new York SUVs, is now
>> headed directly away from where we understand these Chess Islands to be,
>> so the fleet is headed North - which I understand is the quickest way out
>> of here, though how they will get up the frozen St. Lawrence is best known
>> to expedition leader, Commodore "Mohican" Kingston who is out of TomTom
>> range.
>
> Several people have written in asking what happened to Admiral Lex Mitchell,
> and the truth is that he has been demoted to MidShipPerson rank for
> suggesting that the Independent Republic's Navy 'take back' Newfoundland.
>
> The consensus of the crew was that we already lived in a cold inhospitable
> region, why take another just the same? And besides, the South lost, and
> were not to be trusted in important matters such as international theft and
> invasions.
Newfoundland in winter is much milder than Vermont. More good beers/ale
too.
>
> MidShipPerson "lex" Mitchell now runs the 3-decker slave-kayak, which might
> also explain the absense of Neil Brennan and the Line Judge from these
> pages.
>
>> cus can rest easy for probably a couple years, since there is some
>> general talk of 'taking back Newfoundland on the way,' and also "if to
>> stock up on Cuban cigars coming or going or both, and if they take syrup
>> in exchange what's a good barter rate?"
>
> Commodore Kingston has also suffered a name-change and is now First Comrade
> Kingston, but he gets to wear a star on his beret. His last message of
> substance regrets the delay, but the ine Corps consisting entirely of
> Ethan-Allen boys, Jeff and Todd, insisted on bringing their chariot, which
> also has to be dragged across most of Quebec. They say they hope to pick up
> a donkey to pull it when the reach the Islands, since all islands have
> donkeys, besides, its good for putting booty in.
>
> Just like USCF, the Expedition Force is having Mission problems - and the
> whole point of attacking the fabled Chess Islands has come into question. It
> is thought that the Islands must contain coconuts since, as ani ful no, all
> islands do, but, in the words of Sergeant Sister-y, "who needs more
> blessed coconuts?"
>
> Instead, considering the recently geopolitical changes, there are plans to
> attack Cuba instead, but to continue to talk about the Chess Islands as a
> clever // diversion // !
>
>
>> Phil Innes
>> Governor General
>> South-East ches.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: 01 Mar 2008 16:48:15
From: Chess One
Subject: Now beer and Vt naval expeditionary force was Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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"Brian Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:hZjyj.1379$W%2.471@trndny04...
> Chess One wrote:
>> "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:1c022748-f0cd-4d9e-aff5-dcdd2c11af03@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> Stop even messing with these threads. This is serious business. Even
>>>> now the Vermont Navy is embarking on ships anchored off the coast of
>>>> Vermont preparing to sail over to St. Kitts and Nevis to capture you.
>>> I wouldn't call them ships, they are basically kayaks converted into war
>>> canoes - but it is true that the portage section from Lake Champlain
>>> where the mighty kayak fleet usually resides to ward off new York SUVs,
>>> is now headed directly away from where we understand these Chess Islands
>>> to be, so the fleet is headed North - which I understand is the quickest
>>> way out of here, though how they will get up the frozen St. Lawrence is
>>> best known to expedition leader, Commodore "Mohican" Kingston who is out
>>> of TomTom range.
>>
>> Several people have written in asking what happened to Admiral Lex
>> Mitchell, and the truth is that he has been demoted to MidShipPerson rank
>> for suggesting that the Independent Republic's Navy 'take back'
>> Newfoundland.
>>
>> The consensus of the crew was that we already lived in a cold
>> inhospitable region, why take another just the same? And besides, the
>> South lost, and were not to be trusted in important matters such as
>> international theft and invasions.
>
> Newfoundland in winter is much milder than Vermont. More good beers/ale
> too.
I have never been there, though a few streets away lives a Newfoundlander, a
very good musician - I personally got as far as PEI.
I would suppose they get a bit of gulf-stream warmth, and that too allows
fishing on the Banks in all seasons [albeit Cod completely overfished],
which I have only visited vicariously, via Patrick O'B - Surgeon's Mate.
Since a bloke in Brattleboro [McNeil] won a national award for his brew-pub,
and he imports all his good stuff from Germany, I suppose Newfounders do
same [can you even grow hops there?] The test always is, do they have a good
heavy, as we say in England, a good dark?
And have you ever tried early hops buds sauteed in butter, as that good
woman Elizabeth Hartley recommends from 1650?
Phil Innes
>> MidShipPerson "lex" Mitchell now runs the 3-decker slave-kayak, which
>> might also explain the absense of Neil Brennan and the Line Judge from
>> these pages.
>>
>>> cus can rest easy for probably a couple years, since there is some
>>> general talk of 'taking back Newfoundland on the way,' and also "if to
>>> stock up on Cuban cigars coming or going or both, and if they take syrup
>>> in exchange what's a good barter rate?"
>>
>> Commodore Kingston has also suffered a name-change and is now First
>> Comrade Kingston, but he gets to wear a star on his beret. His last
>> message of substance regrets the delay, but the ine Corps consisting
>> entirely of Ethan-Allen boys, Jeff and Todd, insisted on bringing their
>> chariot, which also has to be dragged across most of Quebec. They say
>> they hope to pick up a donkey to pull it when the reach the Islands,
>> since all islands have donkeys, besides, its good for putting booty in.
>>
>> Just like USCF, the Expedition Force is having Mission problems - and the
>> whole point of attacking the fabled Chess Islands has come into question.
>> It is thought that the Islands must contain coconuts since, as ani ful
>> no, all islands do, but, in the words of Sergeant Sister-y, "who needs
>> more blessed coconuts?"
>>
>> Instead, considering the recently geopolitical changes, there are plans
>> to attack Cuba instead, but to continue to talk about the Chess Islands
>> as a clever // diversion // !
>>
>>
>>> Phil Innes
>>> Governor General
>>> South-East ches.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 19:13:09
From:
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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On Feb 29, 8:18=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> I am convinced that as long as Bill Hall is Executive Director we will
> continue to lose money. Bill Hall is terrible. He has no idea how to
> run an business. He should have been fired years ago. Even Frank Niro
> would be better than Bill Hall.
>
> What we should do is bring back Al Lawrence. Al Lawrence was at the US
> Amateur Team East two weeks ago. I heard that he is no longer working
> for the World Chess Hall of Fame.
>
> Al Lawrence turned a surplus for the USCF every one of the eight years
> that he was Executive Director. He is the man we need.
>
> Sam Sloan
Sam Sloan
I just e-mailed Al Lawrence in Hong Kong and he won't e-mail me back.
Al is off
in the Republic of China. Al is setting up these FAKE chess
assocaitions in ROC. Actually,
Al tried to throw me in jail in New York in 1992. Does Al work for the
CIA? Why is he
in Hong Kong, on my allies terrtory, trying to hurt my govenrment?
I told him that it would not work to throw me in jail outside the USA
anymore, but
I am certain he will try to arrest me.
You can have Al back! You just ask him what is he doing in Republic of
China
and why is he setting up fake chess associations for the CIA or
whoever and working
with General Secretary Ignatius Leong?
cus roberts
Permanent Delegate (Ambassador) of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
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Date: 29 Feb 2008 18:18:01
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Will USCF Go Broke?
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I am convinced that as long as Bill Hall is Executive Director we will
continue to lose money. Bill Hall is terrible. He has no idea how to
run an business. He should have been fired years ago. Even Frank Niro
would be better than Bill Hall.
What we should do is bring back Al Lawrence. Al Lawrence was at the US
Amateur Team East two weeks ago. I heard that he is no longer working
for the World Chess Hall of Fame.
Al Lawrence turned a surplus for the USCF every one of the eight years
that he was Executive Director. He is the man we need.
Sam Sloan
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