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Date: 30 Nov 2007 08:19:27
From: Kidon
Subject: World cup 2007 - Round 3 - Gata Kamsky won, Mamedyarov lost in first
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Azery super grandmaster Shakhriar Mamedyarov had lost his first game
with black pieces against Bulgarian young star Ivan Cheparinov.
Michael Adams, Gata Kamsky, Dmitry Jakovenko and Yue Wang had also won
their first games.
All results here: http://en.chessfish.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=560
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Date: 07 Dec 2007 07:15:28
From: Larry Tapper
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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On Dec 7, 8:29 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Susan Says: "White has a good edge" - the game is in progress
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> GM Kamsky (2714) - GM Ponoiov (2705) [B97]
> 07.12.2007
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> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Qb6 8.Qd2 Nc6
> 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nb3 Bd7 11.0-0-0 0-0-0 12.Be2 h5 13.Rhf1 Be7 14.Rf3 Rdg8
> 15.Bf1 Kb8 16.Kb1 h4 17.Qe1 Rg4 18.a3 Qc7 19.Ne2 Rh5 20.h3 Rg8 21.f5 Rhh8
> 22.Nf4 Bf8 23.Qf2 Rg5 24.fxe6 fxe6 25.Rc3 Rh6 26.Nd4 Re5
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> In other games looks like Alekseev - Karjakin is headed for rapid playoff
> And Carlsen is trying to stay alive against Cheparinov
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> PI
Kamsky won and Carlsen drew easily in a rook and pawn endgame. Carlsen
even stood somewhat better at the end.
So it's Carlsen 1.5 Cheparinov 0.5.
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Date: 01 Dec 2007 12:43:24
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - Round 3 - Gata Kamsky won, Mamedyarov lost in
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With so many players , how many rounds will they play ?
I am pulling for Gata K .......
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Date: 02 Dec 2007 09:04:25
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - Round 3 - Gata Kamsky won, Mamedyarov lost in...
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"SAT W-7" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With so many players , how many rounds will they play ?
I guess its a knock out - remaining players are below... round 3 latest
> I am pulling for Gata K .......
you guy's doing good! i have to go with adams since he will reply to my
interview questions in a better mood if he keeps winning :))
look like kamsky is last us hope still standing, Onishuk was knocked out -
this Chinese guy Wang Yue was unfortunate to draw fellow chinese player Bu -
but I haven't really noticed his play before, and he seems to be surviving
this level of competiton, beating a 3640 player in the first round, and now
Bu who is 2690.
Round 3 results
Ivanchuk UKR - Nisipeanu ROU: 1/2,1/2
Karjakin UKR - Bacrot FRA: 1/2,1/2
Fressinet FRA - Alekseev RUS: 1/2,0-1
Grischuk RUS - Bareev RUS: 1/2,1/2
Inarkiev RUS - Aronian ARM: 1/2,1/2
Jakovenko RUS - Almasi HUN: 1-0,1/2
Shirov ESP - Onischuk USA: 1/2,1-0
Malakhov RUS - Akopian ARM: 1/2,0-1
Macieja POL - Sasikiran IND: 1/2,1/2
Tomashevsky RUS - Ponoiov UKR: 1/2,0-1
Rublevsky RUS - Svidler RUS: 1/2,1/2
Kamsky USA - Georgiev BUL: 1-0,1/2
Adams ENG - Zhou CHN: 1-0,1/2
Dominguez Perez CUB - Carlsen NOR: 1/2,0-1
Wang Yue CHN - Bu Xiangzhi CHN: 1-0,1/2
Cheparinov BUL - Mamedyarov AZE: 1-0,1/2
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Hang on...
here are updates from SP to play-offs above
Grischuk, Bacrot, Rublevsky and Inarkiev are out of the World Cup.
Round 3 playoff results:
Karjakin, Sergey (UKR) 2694 3-1 Bacrot, Etienne (FRA) 2695
Grischuk, Alexander (RUS) 2715 1.5-2.5 Bareev, Evgeny (RUS) 2653
Rublevsky, Sergei (RUS) 2676 1.5-2.5 Svidler, Peter (RUS) 2732
Inarkiev, Ernesto (RUS) 2674 1-3 Aronian, Levon (ARM) 2741
Macieja, Bartlomiej (POL) 2606 2-2 Sasikiran, Krishnan (IND) 2661
Ivanchuk, Vassily (UKR) 2787 2-2 Nisipeanu, Liviu-Dieter (ROU) 2668
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End-note. The game replay engine at www.ruschess.com appears to have all the
games so far. You can also get em as downloaded .pgn
Phil Innes
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Date: 05 Dec 2007 07:24:44
From: Chess One
Subject: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Aronian, Levon ARM 2741 1-1 Jakovenko, Dmitry RUS 2710
Kamsky, Gata USA 2714 1-1 Svidler, Peter RUS 2732
Alekseev, Evgeny RUS 2716 1-1 Bareev, Evgeny RUS 2653
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Round 4
Karjakin UKR - Nisipeanu ROU: 1/2; 1-0
Bareev RUS - Alekseev RUS: 1/2; 1/2
Jakovenko RUS - Aronian ARM: 1/2; 1/2
Shirov ESP - Akopian ARM: 1-0; 1/2
Ponoiov UKR - Sasikiran IND: 1-0; 1/2
Kamsky USA - Svidler RUS: 1/2; 1/2
Adams ENG - Carlsen NOR: 0-1; 1/2
Wang Yue CHN - Cheparinov BUL: 1/2; 0-1
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Date: 06 Dec 2007 09:17:28
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Susan Polgar reports: Shirov first to score
GM Shirov (2739) - GM Jakovenko (2710) [C89]
06.12.2007
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.c3 d5
9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d3 Bd6 13.Re1 Bf5 14.Qf3 Qh4 15.g3
Qh3 16.Bxd5 cxd5 17.Qxd5 Rad8 18.Qg2 Qh5 19.Be3 Bxd3 20.Nd2 Bf5 21.Qc6 Be6
22.Qxa6 Qd5 23.Qb6 Bh3 24.f3 f5 25.Qd4 Qc6 26.Qh4 Bc5 27.Bd4 Bxd4+ 28.cxd4
Qc2 29.Red1 Qxb2 30.Qxh3 Qxd4+ 31.Kh1 Rd5 32.Qf1 Rfd8 33.Rac1 Qd3 34.Qe1 h6
35.Kg2 Qa3 36.Nb1 Qxa2+ 37.Kh3 b4 38.Qe6+ Kh7 39.Rc7 f4 40.Qe4+ Kh8 41.Rxd5
Qxd5 42.Qxd5 Rxd5 43.Rc2 White wins 1-0
And Kamsky survives
Susan Polgar wrote: At one point, Ponoiov had a very active position and
it looked like Kamsky would be in trouble. One of the key moves was White's
29th move. Black offered a pawn to open up his position. Ponoiov declined
and got nothing out of his position. The question is should he have played
29.Rxb6?
GM Ponoiov (2705) - GM Kamsky (2714) [E21]
06.12.2007
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5 5.g3 b6 6.Bg2 Bb7 7.0-0 cxd4 8.Qxd4 0-0
9.Rd1 h6 10.b3 Nc6 11.Qd3 Qe7 12.Bb2 Ba3 13.Bxa3 Qxa3 14.Nb5 Qe7 15.Nd6 Rab8
16.a3 Ba8 17.b4 Rfd8 18.b5 Na5 19.Ne5 Bxg2 20.Kxg2 Rf8 21.Qf3 Qd8 22.Rd4 Qc7
23.Rad1 Nb7 24.Nxb7 Rxb7 25.Rd6 Qc8 26.R1d4 Rc7 27.Qd3 Rd8 28.f3 a6 29.a4
axb5 30.axb5 Rb7 31.g4 Qc5 32.Nxd7 Rbxd7 33.Rxd7 Rxd7 34.Rxd7 Nxd7 35.Qxd7
Qxc4 36.Kf2 Qc5+ 37.e3 Qc2+ 38.Kg3 Qc5 39.Kf2 Qc2+ 40.Kg3 Qc5 41.Kf2 Game
drawn �-�
"Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Aronian, Levon ARM 2741 1-1 Jakovenko, Dmitry RUS 2710
> Kamsky, Gata USA 2714 1-1 Svidler, Peter RUS 2732
> Alekseev, Evgeny RUS 2716 1-1 Bareev, Evgeny RUS 2653
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> Round 4
> Karjakin UKR - Nisipeanu ROU: 1/2; 1-0
> Bareev RUS - Alekseev RUS: 1/2; 1/2
> Jakovenko RUS - Aronian ARM: 1/2; 1/2
> Shirov ESP - Akopian ARM: 1-0; 1/2
> Ponoiov UKR - Sasikiran IND: 1-0; 1/2
> Kamsky USA - Svidler RUS: 1/2; 1/2
> Adams ENG - Carlsen NOR: 0-1; 1/2
> Wang Yue CHN - Cheparinov BUL: 1/2; 0-1
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Date: 07 Dec 2007 08:29:47
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Susan Says: "White has a good edge" - the game is in progress
GM Kamsky (2714) - GM Ponoiov (2705) [B97]
07.12.2007
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Qb6 8.Qd2 Nc6
9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nb3 Bd7 11.0-0-0 0-0-0 12.Be2 h5 13.Rhf1 Be7 14.Rf3 Rdg8
15.Bf1 Kb8 16.Kb1 h4 17.Qe1 Rg4 18.a3 Qc7 19.Ne2 Rh5 20.h3 Rg8 21.f5 Rhh8
22.Nf4 Bf8 23.Qf2 Rg5 24.fxe6 fxe6 25.Rc3 Rh6 26.Nd4 Re5
In other games looks like Alekseev - Karjakin is headed for rapid playoff
And Carlsen is trying to stay alive against Cheparinov
PI
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Date: 07 Dec 2007 20:02:09
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Just played to move 26 and Gata has lost his chance at a fork....I would
have taken the fork move if i was playing .....I know Gata must be
setting him up but i can not see it yet...
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Date: 07 Dec 2007 19:56:45
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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I am at move 25 ,Gata moves rook to C-3 ..
Why not night on F-4 x E-6 pawn and his Knight forks his queen and rook
...will play the rest of this out and maybe you can post the rest of
the game...He must have a longer term strategy ..Gata's move pins the
knight in front of the queen....
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Date: 07 Dec 2007 14:09:35
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Quarterfinal results:
Kamsky 1-0 Ponoiov (Kamsky wins 1.5 - .5)
Cheparinov 1/2 Carlsen (Carlsen wins 1.5 - .5)
Jakovenko 0-1 Shirov (Shirov wins 2-0)
Alekseev 1/2 Kajarkin (Match tie at 1-1)
Semifinal:
Kamsky vs Carlsen
Shirov vs the winner of Alekseev - Karjakin rapid playoff
News from Susan Polgar //PI
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Date: 06 Dec 2007 17:49:54
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Just played the Gata game and i am not a good enough player to know if
he should have taken that piece or not ...I can see why he left it
because if he takes it then queen takes pawn and his queen is free ...He
still got the queen out anyway ....I thought that was a good game.
If i was playing i am not sure i would have taken it ..If his queen was
not protecting it then i would have to put pressure on him to stop the
pawn ...
By the way i am still having problems figuring out the rules , is it the
best two out of three or best 3 out of 5 games ?
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Date: 05 Dec 2007 09:36:50
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Big News!!! Kamsky knocks out Svidler!
GM Svidler (2732) - GM Kamsky (2714) [C76]
05.12.2007
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 d6 5.c3 Bd7 6.d4 g6 7.0-0 Bg7 8.d5 Nce7
9.c4 Nf6 10.Bxd7+ Qxd7 11.Nc3 0-0 12.c5 Nh5 13.cxd6 cxd6 14.Be3 Rac8 15.Na4
Qb5 16.Nb6 Rcd8 17.Rc1 Nc8 18.a4 Qe8 19.Qb3 Nxb6 20.Bxb6 Rd7 21.Rc4 Bh6
22.Be3 Bxe3 23.Qxe3 f5 24.Ng5 Nf4 25.g3 h6 26.Nf3 fxe4 27.Qxe4 Nh5 28.Nd2
Qf7 29.Qd3 Nf6 30.f4 Kg7 31.fxe5 dxe5 32.d6 Qe6 33.Rc7 Rff7 34.Ne4 Rxc7
35.dxc7 Qb6+ 36.Kg2 Qxc7 37.Nc3 Qc6+ 38.Kg1 Qb6+ 39.Kh1 Qxb2 40.Qc4 Qb6
41.Ne4 a5 42.Nc5 Qc6+ 43.Kg1 Re7 44.Qb5 e4 45.Qxc6 bxc6 46.Rc1 Nd5 47.Kf2
Kf6 48.Nb3 Rb7 49.Nxa5 Rb2+ 50.Ke1 Nb4 51.Rc3 Rxh2 52.Nxc6 Nd3+ 53.Kd1 Ra2
54.a5 h5 55.Rc2 Ra3 56.Kd2 Ne5 57.Nxe5 Kxe5 58.Rc5+ Kd4 59.Rg5 Ra2+ 60.Kd1
Kd3 61.Rd5+ Ke3 62.Rg5 Kf2 63.Rxg6 Rxa5 64.Rf6+ Kxg3 65.Ke2 Rg5 66.Rf1 h4
67.Ke3 h3 68.Rg1+ Kh4 69.Rh1 Rg2 70.Kxe4 h2 71.Kf3 Kh3 Black wins 0-1
Thanks to Susan Polgar for this news and the game score.
Phil Innes
"Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Aronian, Levon ARM 2741 1-1 Jakovenko, Dmitry RUS 2710
> Kamsky, Gata USA 2714 1-1 Svidler, Peter RUS 2732
> Alekseev, Evgeny RUS 2716 1-1 Bareev, Evgeny RUS 2653
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> Round 4
> Karjakin UKR - Nisipeanu ROU: 1/2; 1-0
> Bareev RUS - Alekseev RUS: 1/2; 1/2
> Jakovenko RUS - Aronian ARM: 1/2; 1/2
> Shirov ESP - Akopian ARM: 1-0; 1/2
> Ponoiov UKR - Sasikiran IND: 1-0; 1/2
> Kamsky USA - Svidler RUS: 1/2; 1/2
> Adams ENG - Carlsen NOR: 0-1; 1/2
> Wang Yue CHN - Cheparinov BUL: 1/2; 0-1
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Date: 06 Dec 2007 07:26:16
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Round 5
Alekseev RUS - Karjakin UKR
Jakovenko RUS - Shirov ESP
Kamsky USA - Ponoiov UKR
Cheparinov BUL - Carlsen NOR
Hard to guess who will win in these games, petersburgers Alekseev and
Karjakin will be interesting, young Karjakin is 'the prospect'
Kamsky gets to play Pono who had a relatively easy 4th round, though his
confidence will be high after beating Svidler, they extra two games might
count a bit
Maybe age will be a factot in the Cheparinov Calsen game? although its only
round 5, some of these players have put in more than a dozen games to get
here.
Round 4 results
Karjakin UKR - Nisipeanu ROU: 1/2; 1-0
Bareev RUS - Alekseev RUS: 1/2; 1/2; 0-1; 0-1
Jakovenko RUS - Aronian ARM: 1/2; 1/2; 1-0; 1/2
Shirov ESP - Akopian ARM: 1-0; 1/2
Ponoiov UKR - Sasikiran IND: 1-0; 1/2
Kamsky USA - Svidler RUS: 1/2; 1/2; 1/2; 1-0
Adams ENG - Carlsen NOR: 0-1; 1/2
Wang Yue CHN - Cheparinov BUL: 1/2; 0-1
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Date: 06 Dec 2007 06:12:24
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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Besides wanting to know the knock out rules , how do they pick the
next opponent in every round ? Do the players have time to study their
opponents or just start playing them the next day?
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Date: 07 Dec 2007 22:59:24
From: Andreas Hofmann
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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SAT W-7 <[email protected] > wrote:
> Besides wanting to know the knock out rules , how do they pick the
> next opponent in every round ? Do the players have time to study their
> opponents or just start playing them the next day?
Both Karjakin and Carlsen are 17 years old.
The players were listed in order of their ELO-ranking as of October.
Initially there were 128 players and in the first round no 1 seed played
no 128 seed, no 2 played no 127 and so on.
In each round there are 2 games with "classic" time control on two
consecutive days followed by a rapid and/or blitz tie breaker on the
third day if necessary. Winner of these mini-matches will goes to next
round.
Obviously there is some advantage of a "rest" day if one avoids to play
the tie break. The only official free day will be the day before the
final starts.
In the final there will be 4 games with "classical" time control
followed again by a tie break on the fifth day.
For more information just visit the official website at
<http://www.ugra-chess.ru/eng/main_e.htm >
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Eppur Si Muove!
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Date: 07 Dec 2007 20:06:11
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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thank you for that info and website..
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Date: 06 Dec 2007 06:06:24
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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I am still trying to figure out the knock out rules , is it two loses
and your out ?
Thank you for the updates ..
still pulling for Gata..
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Date: 06 Dec 2007 06:08:24
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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How old is Karjakin ?
How old is Carlsen ?
I think both are young guys ?
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Date: 06 Dec 2007 08:35:51
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - final rounds
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"Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Round 5
> Alekseev RUS - Karjakin UKR
> Jakovenko RUS - Shirov ESP
> Kamsky USA - Ponoiov UKR
> Cheparinov BUL - Carlsen NOR
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> Hard to guess who will win in these games, petersburgers Alekseev and
> Karjakin will be interesting, young Karjakin is 'the prospect'
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.a4 b4
9.d3 d6 10.Nbd2 Na5 11.Ba2 Be6 12.Bxe6 fxe6 13.d4 exd4 14.Nxd4 Qd7 15.Nf1
Nc6 16.Nb3 Qe8 17.Ng3 h5 18.h3 Qg6 19.Qe2 h4 20.Nf1 Nh5 Game drawn �-�
> Kamsky gets to play Pono who had a relatively easy 4th round, though his
> confidence will be high after beating Svidler, they extra two games might
> count a bit
>
> Maybe age will be a factot in the Cheparinov Calsen game? although its
> only round 5, some of these players have put in more than a dozen games to
> get here.
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> Round 4 results
> Karjakin UKR - Nisipeanu ROU: 1/2; 1-0
> Bareev RUS - Alekseev RUS: 1/2; 1/2; 0-1; 0-1
> Jakovenko RUS - Aronian ARM: 1/2; 1/2; 1-0; 1/2
> Shirov ESP - Akopian ARM: 1-0; 1/2
> Ponoiov UKR - Sasikiran IND: 1-0; 1/2
> Kamsky USA - Svidler RUS: 1/2; 1/2; 1/2; 1-0
> Adams ENG - Carlsen NOR: 0-1; 1/2
> Wang Yue CHN - Cheparinov BUL: 1/2; 0-1
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Date: 02 Dec 2007 08:32:18
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - Round 3 - Gata Kamsky won, Mamedyarov lost
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Can you explain the knock out rules ?
Is it one loss and out ?
Can you draw as many times as you want , just do not lose a game ..
Thank you for keeping us updated ..
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Date: 05 Dec 2007 10:10:48
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: World cup 2007 - Round 3 - Gata Kamsky won, Mamedyarov lost
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How do the knock out rules work..?
Go Gata .....He is getting more confident in every game..
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